I meet a girl and she invites me to join with her friends.
Hell, I'm the worst at picking up in social circles, so why not learning something new I think and join her.
As I meet her friends, 2 guys and 1 girl I actually feel bad for the guy, he's clearly downtrodden to see me there there and avoids looking at me in the eyes.
Probably he was hoping to have the girl all for himself and now instead I'm the fresh new guy and the center of the attention as we walk towards the tavern (bar/restaurant).
I think one of the reasons I'm not comfortable in these situations is dealing with the infliction of pain.
While when it's you and a girl it's a win-win if it works out and everyone gains, here there's an often not-so-well hidden tension and a guy going home brokenhearted.
And while I feel I can handle pain, can others as well?
Am I too "nice"?
AT THE VENUE
Anyway, at the table I sit close to the girl and make conversation with everyone and sometimes only talk with the girl (talk is a big word though, mostly we read from each other's phone translators).
The situation is rather good, both as a group vibe and as a seating position as "my" girl is at the end of the table (great) and then there's me, an empty chair, the sad guy and a girl and a guy in front.
But then 2 more guys join: Bad male:female ratio but also now there's two more guys sitting right in front of "my" girl and I'm not sure on how much I should try to talk 1:1 with the girl without making it weird for everyone.
One of the new guy has the best English and engages me quite a bit.
I feel the silent stranger would have been a better position than the guy talking 1:1 with another guy and disregarding the group and the girl, so I don't re-engage him too much (that didn't stop him from asking my FB lol).
One of the new guy sitting in front of her ask for "my girl's" contact detail and they exchange it.
I'm not worried, both because she's sitting with me and because, well.. I don't really care that much.
Just for good measure I intermittently put my hand on "my" girl's knee and upper leg and when the guy sitting on our same row goes to the toilet I start slowly moving my hand towards her vagina as we look at each other and smile.
Then as I'm about to hit her vagina I turn my gaze in front of me not to make it too obvious and she shivers and removes my hand (which I was removing myself anyway) and I put it back on the leg.
I make sure she knows I live close by too.
AS WE LEAVE
Now we're out and I get to be close just to her and we both know it's the time to either go the two of us alone or she going home with her group.
Unluckily there need to be a translator and it's basically everyone watching me and her with all the guys, I feel, hoping she won't come.
She moves back to her group but her female friend pushes her towards me -what a fucking difference man and women sometimes eh?
- and now it's again everyone watching us discussing the "next step" ("another drink, just 10 minutes").
Peer pressure is super high for her though.
As we walk together we fall back just the two of us and I touch her quite a bit in effort to turn her and sway her from the group.
She holds on my hand as she says she can't but I let it go: not gonna be the guy holding platonic hands.
I feel my "push" was rather light though: I never grabbed her or made a strong push, it was more like "nice guy"/joking push as I was afraid both the situation was compromised and didn't wanna make her sound like a slut.
Also I was worried of looking desperate pushy and being ostracized by the group.
So at the crossroad we bid goodbye and part ways (God must those guys have been happy about it eheh).
WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE
Any feedback and/or observation from you guys?
Hell, I'm the worst at picking up in social circles, so why not learning something new I think and join her.
As I meet her friends, 2 guys and 1 girl I actually feel bad for the guy, he's clearly downtrodden to see me there there and avoids looking at me in the eyes.
Probably he was hoping to have the girl all for himself and now instead I'm the fresh new guy and the center of the attention as we walk towards the tavern (bar/restaurant).
I think one of the reasons I'm not comfortable in these situations is dealing with the infliction of pain.
While when it's you and a girl it's a win-win if it works out and everyone gains, here there's an often not-so-well hidden tension and a guy going home brokenhearted.
And while I feel I can handle pain, can others as well?
Am I too "nice"?
AT THE VENUE
Anyway, at the table I sit close to the girl and make conversation with everyone and sometimes only talk with the girl (talk is a big word though, mostly we read from each other's phone translators).
The situation is rather good, both as a group vibe and as a seating position as "my" girl is at the end of the table (great) and then there's me, an empty chair, the sad guy and a girl and a guy in front.
But then 2 more guys join: Bad male:female ratio but also now there's two more guys sitting right in front of "my" girl and I'm not sure on how much I should try to talk 1:1 with the girl without making it weird for everyone.
One of the new guy has the best English and engages me quite a bit.
I feel the silent stranger would have been a better position than the guy talking 1:1 with another guy and disregarding the group and the girl, so I don't re-engage him too much (that didn't stop him from asking my FB lol).
One of the new guy sitting in front of her ask for "my girl's" contact detail and they exchange it.
I'm not worried, both because she's sitting with me and because, well.. I don't really care that much.
Just for good measure I intermittently put my hand on "my" girl's knee and upper leg and when the guy sitting on our same row goes to the toilet I start slowly moving my hand towards her vagina as we look at each other and smile.
Then as I'm about to hit her vagina I turn my gaze in front of me not to make it too obvious and she shivers and removes my hand (which I was removing myself anyway) and I put it back on the leg.
I make sure she knows I live close by too.
AS WE LEAVE
Now we're out and I get to be close just to her and we both know it's the time to either go the two of us alone or she going home with her group.
Unluckily there need to be a translator and it's basically everyone watching me and her with all the guys, I feel, hoping she won't come.
She moves back to her group but her female friend pushes her towards me -what a fucking difference man and women sometimes eh?
- and now it's again everyone watching us discussing the "next step" ("another drink, just 10 minutes"). Peer pressure is super high for her though.
As we walk together we fall back just the two of us and I touch her quite a bit in effort to turn her and sway her from the group.
She holds on my hand as she says she can't but I let it go: not gonna be the guy holding platonic hands.
I feel my "push" was rather light though: I never grabbed her or made a strong push, it was more like "nice guy"/joking push as I was afraid both the situation was compromised and didn't wanna make her sound like a slut.
Also I was worried of looking desperate pushy and being ostracized by the group.
So at the crossroad we bid goodbye and part ways (God must those guys have been happy about it eheh).
WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE
Any feedback and/or observation from you guys?
