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Social Implications of Approaching

Janeer

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Hey guys.

I could definitely use your advice on how to approach this girl I have had my eye on for a long time now. She works at her family’s specialty market store. When I first saw her, it was some 7 years ago. She was still in high school, about to graduate. I was 29. Naturally, I didn’t do anything because I didn’t want to end up in jail. Now, many years later at 24, she’s back in our little small town of 28,000, helping to run the family market. I‘m 36, so there’s definitely an age difference.

I have no idea if she is even interested in me. I’m a dude, so I will always assume the best, that she likes me. I have noticed these possible indicators-of-interest:

• Just last week, I was walking down the aisle at her store, looking at the shelves when something caught my eye. It’s that feeling you get when you someone watches you without you knowing. I looked up to see her watching me. Knowing she got caught she looked back down and towards her customers who were just chit-chatting from across the counter, deciding what they want to buy.
• She hardly ever makes small talk with me. I’ve tried on several occasions, and they hardly go beyond the perfunctory, “How do you do?” I noticed she does talk more with other customers. This may not mean anything or it could be something. I am reminded of what Chase wrote, saying that if a girl has the hots for you, she will be too nervous to flirt with you. So, maybe she has the hots for me and is too nervous to talk to me. I remember hitting on this girl one time. At the time, she was looking down, seemingly oblivious to everything around her. My friend nudged me to approach, and I did. She instantly lit up. So, my friend knows how to read interest. I just suck at it.

But I have some reservations about approaching her.
• The age difference. I have heard that her family is very traditional and religious as one of my friends is dating her sister and, even after 5 years, will still not allow her to spend the night at his place. And that’s the extra rub: Usually the parents or some other family friend/member are almost always there at the shop with her, making me feel awkward about approaching her and feeling her out for a date. With the age difference, I’m also concerned they will think I’m a creepy pervert, going after their daughter. (But you can’t blame a guy for liking them young!)
• She may already have a boyfriend. I just don’t know but not atypical, given the high number of guys-to-girls in my town. Some estimates put it at 10-to-1.
• The market is a specialty store and one-of-a-kind in the small town where I live. I am afraid that if she shoots me down or the parents know what I am trying to do that I will be too embarrassed to go back and shop there ever again. I can’t go anywhere else to get the same items, unless I drive 3+ hours.

So, what would you guys do in a situation like this? Thanks.
 

Mr.Rob

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First of all welcome Janeer! Always good to seek wisdom and improvement of thyself.

The short answer I would say is to forget her, move to a city with an actual population (preferably over 400,000), and proceed to meet tons of new women until you land tons of amazing women in a row and get your pick of which one you want to be in a relationship with meanwhile forgetting all about your little crush back at the farm who now doesn't seem so appealing as she once did.

Not being mean but that's probably the best option (if you want to get good with women and not have a chance of becoming needy).

Red flags:

Janeer said:
I have had my eye on for a long time now.
Janeer said:
When I first saw her, it was some 7 years ago.

In truth you're in what they call "scarcity" (not having options of women) which is always dangerous because most guys in scarcity (myself included) are very outcome dependent and needy if they are to land the girl. If they don't land the girl they get crushed... and in your case have to drive 3 hours to get groceries.

However I really like how you "assume attraction" with this girl (you seem to have a solid strong headspace confidence wise). I do realize the implications behind approaching this girl especially in a small town (I live in a town of 4,000 though its close to a city of 100,000) as I live in one myself (you potentially have to see her over and over again).

So if I were you I'd catch her when she seems not too busy with a customer and open situationally. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...8TLlE-S5q_sE30a1lXTU8iw&bvm=bv.73373277,d.aWw

Do your best to get past small talk and have an actual conversation. Talk about her or maybe how she likes being out of school. Most of all remember your the wise older man who she should be looking up to. Own that authoritative role that you are with her and all younger women you talk to.

All and all just have a regular conversation and see what happens. If your thinking about it like it's some super serious moment that you must nail perfect then you've already shot yourself in the foot.

It's not a big deal just make a comment and see how she responds. Almost as if you're doing it out of your own amusement to cure your own boredom.

Hope that helps a bit! Let us know how it goes and I'll look for you later on down the road.

-Rob
 
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Janeer

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Hi Mr. Rob.

Thanks for the advice, and in a way, it helps. I think for the sake of having a place to shop, I will leave this one alone for now. Now that the context of our "relationship" has changed, being that I see us just being shop-girl/customer, I would, as you suggest, suddenly feel more friendly towards her, instead of the guy that's been thinking of ways to get into her pants. That'll make conversing easier. So, if I see signs of interest after talking to her in a more casual context, then I know and will feel more confident about making something happen.

I've actually been trying for quite some time to move to a city of my choice, but with the economy in the shitter for the past few years, it's been challenging at best. I went to a few face-to-face interviews and have been shot down at almost everyone of them. I did finally get an offer after a few years of trying, but the job was not really something I would enjoy doing on a daily basis so I passed on the offer. Now that many other young guys have also left this place (lack of girls is a huge reason), I shall take it as a sign that the economy is finally getting better and start looking again in early 2015. For now, to fill the void (pun intended) I'm trying online dating.
 
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