Social setting, advice for best timing?

[Fluxcapacitor]

Dudes am wanting ya thoughts an advice on this!
Ya shouldn't wait to the end of the date to kiss yah? So would this apply to addressing other aspects?

A have ended up in a situation with a girl in a social setting an am looking to force a decision from her. A was looking to catch her at the end of the activity as not to make the whole thing awkward, but know it'll look like a have waited for it an made it a bigger deal than it should be by waiting.

Doing it straight away gets it done without putting a lot of emphasis on it but risks being awkward after when we're stuck together. It would also be less covert if was done straight away.

Any thoughts dudes?!?! Or am a overthinking an should just get it done

 

[Fuck This]

I've had a variety of kiss timings with varied results....

A girl I talked to for 2 months via text and phone before meeting her....Kissed her right off the bat when I met her in person. PUTTY IN MY HANDS SNL

Hotel bar meetup, walked to the elevator together Kissed her in the elevator on the way to her room. SNL

Friend of a friend kissed her on the way to the third bar, after initiating kino while having dinner with my female friend. When we were finally alone and our friend went to the bathroom. SNL

Met a girl at the bar, had a makeout just before closing time in middle of the crowd. Got a number. Her friends show up and whisked her away. Never heard from her again. FU

Three girls my buddy and I met at the bar, then chatted up at the all night diner, followed us to the Fairgrounds where we were camped. My buddy and I isolated the two hot ones, makeouts ensue in the dark separately and the third wheel got pissed off and told her friends they were leaving... FU

One drunken makeout on dance floor led to a pull. This was sloppy game at best. SNL

After winging my friend to an isolation in a hotel room with one, her cousin was with me and she initiated the makeout, after purposely "forgetting" the address where she was staying. I demurred her advances since she was too inebriated.

Dance floor makeout with great exuberance, and wandering hands had a pull soundly rejected but wanted to meet up next day....FU

Post dance walk along river initiated kiss and it was on. Then and there. Poor logistics prevented PIV. Overlooked opportunity for car sex...LR-

Tinder date kissed her about 5 minutes from her meeting me in my car. Took her to drinks in one place and dinner at another and she fucked me in the parking lot about 2 hours later. SNL

Post dance gave her and friends a ride after dance club closed kissed her in my car away from prying eyes. Bedded her a week later.

Tinder same day midday meet up. Beers and walked her to her car. SHE ASKED ME TO KISS HER. Verbalized that she would "Love to take me home to screw but she couldn't..." Got a second date a week later and ended it there. FU



Basically, work Kino and Eye contact and connection and build sexual tension in public, at the moment you have the "Finally we are alone " moment, then initiate the kiss.
Could still be public, but intimate. The more public the kiss, the less likely the pull in my experience. Have logistics in your mind when kiss initiated....

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

Fuck this dude thanks for ya reply! A think ma OP might not have been very clear. A wasn't specifically asking bout timing a kiss an a find ya right the more public the kids the less likely the pull.

A mentioned a kiss as some people typically wait to the end of the date/night to do this where here we advise against it. Don't make it a big deal type thing.

So a was wanting to ask this girl back out an looking to force a decision from her cause last time she got to nervous an cancelled. A know her from ma martial arts class an thought bout asking at the end of the class so that I've got a better chance of isolation an we can get away easier but wondering if ya think a should just do it at the beginning so it doesn't look like a waited an made it a bigger deal than it is.

A think the only way a could isolate her at the beginning would be asking whoever she was near to give us a minute. They would cause of ma rank but a would hate to pull rank for that. Any advice for this? Thanks dude!

 

[Fuck This]

I've found if the woman is interested she will make time to talk to you. Especially if your non-verbal cues make her curious.

In Social settings Some times I've found if I isolate myself in her view, and make flirty eye contact, often she will come to me.

I think in your scenario of a martial arts class you could create a group event "going out for a drink" after. and invite a couple of folks from the group who will go. Then INCLUDE her, and the peer pressure from the friends will encourage her to go. Have a low key social time with the group, get your social proof, then use the smaller group size and liquid courage to say "That was really fun. Why don't we get together, just the two of us?"

The group social gives her a chance to see you in a different light than the guy yelling and throwing people, and is lower pressure than a one on one cold meet.

Sorry I misinterpreted earlier...

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

Thanks dude! No worries for ya misinterpretation have had a few guys on here not understand me Haha

Me an her got together when we went out for a drink for an event, a got ma social proof an she seen me in a different light an everything fell into place. A didn't push for sex after she told me she was a virgin in the escalation an set up a date with her that she was excited about. She then cancelled it the next day which was either down to nerves or her friend liking me as well. (Her friend was very jealous)

It came apparent she sees herself lower value than me cause she asked me if a was sure an why a was with her. A used sexual tension to get past these tests but feel she might fear rejection because a didn't qualify her with affirmation. Am convinced she likes me (she said that night she really really likes me) an that it's just nerves so decided to ask again in person.

Figured give a qualifying statement, a call back to the night an then ask. If she tries to slow it down or says no let her know we might not get the chance again an a would hate for us to miss out. The only bad idea is knowing we both like each other but being too scared to be together...(when she cancelled she said it would be a bad idea) I think we now need the pressure of a one on one cold meet Haha

Thanks dude