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I am starting to feel like if you have social value, everything else can be ignored if you want hot girls, especially in the 18-25 age range but even past that. Like I look at the kinds of guys that usually get hot girls:

Frat guys
Athletes
Guys that work in upscale nightclubs
“Model” photographers
Celebs and mini celebs

All of these guys have social value in the form of a lot of friends, a lot of social media followers, and just a big circle of supporters and followers. Almost all of the hot girls I know are dating these kinds of guys and it makes sense since a lot of hot girls have the same thing going for them. Why have a wedding with a guy who hardly has friends?

Which kind of makes me uncertain of a lot dating advice out there and on here that ignores this.

I have rarely seen a PUA type pull hot girls or most guys get a hot girl from cold approach.

Even the garbage I read that is masculinity telling men to work on themselves and be alone? I don’t think the authors of that trash have even been near a hot girl before.

It makes me feel like we are all wasting time.

What is the point of all that trash when it doesn’t even help you get hot girls?

I just want to date and fuck hot girls but find most of this “be alpha” trash to be a big waste of my time.


Meanwhile some dude who doesn’t even read this shit is getting hot girls because he met the right people growing up, lucked into the right social circumstances, made the right friends when young and is reaping the rewards for it.

Makes me call bullshit when they say men past 30 can get hot girls because they don’t even have the same social opportunities to build that sort of social value.

I think this pua cold approach shit is a waste of time because it does not help you get hot girls.

What are your thoughts?
 

radeng

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Peach,

Everything you post is whiney and victim. You live in a world where you are just the victim and theres nothing you can do about it. You aren't cool, you weren't in a frat, you don't believe cold approach works because you are apparently too terrible at it to even get girls in a city with MILLIONS of girls or to make friends with the social circles you desire to be in. Oh and every one who has "hot girls" got them by accident or birth right or whatever.

So yeah, your observations will forever follow your mental model. As long as you have a deep rooted belief that you are victim you will continue to let life pass you by as you slowly become more bitter and cynical.

You are literally on a forum of a site that teaches cold approach pick up. SMH.

But you are right in a sense that having a great social circle and being at the top status of a particular sexual marketplace is one way to consistently
attract the girls who are also at the top of the sexual marketplace. But you are mistaken that it is the ONLY way. Also, if you want models -- and i say this with all seriousness -- buy a nice camera and start practicing photography. I don't do this, but every account of being a model photographer -- even if you are pretty amateur, is a solid way to get consistently hot girls around you as both friends and lovers.

Instead of lamenting that you didn't get a camera from your parents and have never researched photography before so therefore you can't possibly become a phtographer, just fucking try SOMETHING... ANYTHING... and POST YOUR DAMN FR.

If you wan't to keep whining and complaining and not following the methods recommended here you are probably better off finding another community where guys like to whine about women and how it sucks to be them and how society is against them and how only the frat boys get the girls.

TL;DR
Stop being a whiney ass victim bitch. Cold approach does work but its not the only way. If you don't want to cold approach start working on another method RIGHT NOW and start posting about what you are doing instead of what you "can't" do.

cheers,
Radeng
 

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Saying that you can't get hot chicks unless you got lucky is incredibly insulting to the people that put in the effort. Like Radeng said, you're just trying to play up your victim status.

Guess what hotshot, you're not the only victim around here. Quit bitching about it and actually DO SOMETHING!

You think you got it rough? Tough shit, everything in your life past a certain age is your fault. If you can't get hot chicks it's your fault. If you can't become high status it's your fault. You didn't get a camera and wasn't taught photography? Your fault. You can't get laid in a city with million of women then it's your fucking fault.

To say that getting hot chicks is luck is an absolutely disgusting thing to say to people that have put in even a tiny amount of effort to learning what works and what doesn't.

There are a few forum members around here that I've talked to that have had it pretty rough, including myself. Everybody needs to vent from time to time, and most people on here know that I have, but at some point you have got to quit being a pussy and sack up.

Do you want to know the real reason that you can't stick your dick anywhere near a woman of value?

Because you're not a man, you're an infantile victim. You're still complaining that mommy and daddy didn't do enough for you to help you become a playboy by birth. If you were a man you'd grow a pair of testicles and beat your head against a wall until you became successful.


You want to start getting models that are into photographers? Then go get a camera and start learning. I got my camera in October of 2016 and now I've gotten pretty damn good at it. Only took about a year and now all I need is exposure, which I already have a plan to do once I get through some serious life shit that I still get to deal with.

Women are attracted to men who DO something about their situation. They don't want another pussy, they already have one.

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PeachFrustration said:
Now couldn't you have just given the advice instead of calling me a whiner? I mean I am not the one making things hostile here sweetheart.

You've been given advice time and time again on all of your other threads. You get tough love now.

Call me a victim all you want but I am going by what I see. The guys I see getting girls IRL? I am BETTER than them, more handsome and have tighter game, but because these guys got into the right frat or grew up near the right crowd they are getting these girls? Shit doesn't make sense to me at all.

Clearly you're not better than they are because they get laid.
 

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Now couldn't you have just given the advice instead of calling me a whiner? I mean I am not the one making things hostile here sweetheart.

Call me a victim all you want but I am going by what I see. The guys I see getting girls IRL? I am BETTER than them, more handsome and have tighter game, but because these guys got into the right frat or grew up near the right crowd they are getting these girls? Shit doesn't make sense to me at all.
 

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I am BETTER than them, more handsome and have tighter game, but because these guys got into the right frat or grew up near the right crowd they are getting these girls?

Except that you're spending your time and energy writing post after post complaining about your lack of results, while these guys are spending theirs having fun getting their dicks wet with these hot girls that you crave so badly. Hmm... could it be that maybe you're actually not better than them after all and that your beliefs need some rewiring?
 

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Altair, Oh Pry and PeachFrustration. They all sound so similar! Speech patterns, perceptions, everything...
 

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PeachFrustration said:
I am starting to feel like if you have social value, everything else can be ignored if you want hot girls, especially in the 18-25 age range but even past that. Like I look at the kinds of guys that usually get hot girls:

Frat guys
Athletes
Guys that work in upscale nightclubs
“Model” photographers
Celebs and mini celebs

All of these guys have social value in the form of a lot of friends, a lot of social media followers, and just a big circle of supporters and followers. Almost all of the hot girls I know are dating these kinds of guys and it makes sense since a lot of hot girls have the same thing going for them. Why have a wedding with a guy who hardly has friends?

Which kind of makes me uncertain of a lot dating advice out there and on here that ignores this.

I have rarely seen a PUA type pull hot girls or most guys get a hot girl from cold approach.

Even the garbage I read that is masculinity telling men to work on themselves and be alone? I don’t think the authors of that trash have even been near a hot girl before.

It makes me feel like we are all wasting time.

What is the point of all that trash when it doesn’t even help you get hot girls?

I just want to date and fuck hot girls but find most of this “be alpha” trash to be a big waste of my time.


Meanwhile some dude who doesn’t even read this shit is getting hot girls because he met the right people growing up, lucked into the right social circumstances, made the right friends when young and is reaping the rewards for it.

Makes me call bullshit when they say men past 30 can get hot girls because they don’t even have the same social opportunities to build that sort of social value.

I think this pua cold approach shit is a waste of time because it does not help you get hot girls.

What are your thoughts?
1. 1st off you don't post pics of yourself.

2. You don't post any sample stories of approaching or getting approached by, women.

3. Yes, looks alone can only attract women so far, women have to pre-know you, which is why the vast majority of relationships are by networking: people you know, introducing you to people they know. Which usually involves growing up in the same neighborhood and school system.
 
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