FR Solo Night Game at the Club, very strong hook, amogs, couldn't pull

[Swati]

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Last night, I ventured out solo to a familiar club after my friends bailed. Rain reduced the crowd size, and the male-to-female ratio was unfavorable. Despite challenging conditions, I stayed composed, adapted, and executed several approaches, securing a strong hook with a high-value target in a two-set. The night involved navigating jealousy, AMOG attempts, and maintaining frame under pressure.

Initial Setup​

Arrived at the club around at this rooftop club. The rain kept the crowd sparse, and the gender ratio was suboptimal. I acclimated for 15-20 minutes, scanning the venue before my first approach. The vibe was medium to low, but I maintained a relaxed, confident demeanor.

First Approach​

Spotted an older woman (appeared 30s, later revealed to be 50) from a distance. Approached with a situational opener despite a slight language barrier. She responded positively, initiating light kino (touching my arm), boosting my confidence. The interaction flowed smoothly for a few minutes, and I navigated the language gap effectively. Outcome: Solid warm-up set, ejected amicably to maintain social momentum.

Main Set – Two-Set Approach​

Noticed a two-set previously approached unsuccessfully by other guys. Approached the target (HB7, “Sarah”) with a playful, situational opener [honestly I forgot, either was a Hi or some thing to do with the club, I forgot, but my momentum was back after the 1st interaction]. The hook was strong—Sarah engaged enthusiastically, maintaining eye contact and mirroring my energy. Her friend (HB7, “Jane”) grew visibly jealous, creating tension.

Sarah physically pushed Jane away multiple times to focus on our conversation, a clear IOI. Jane’s frustration was evident, as she’d been picky with other guys and wasn’t enjoying herself. I maintained frame, focusing on Sarah while subtly acknowledging Jane to avoid alienating her.

Escalation & Logistics​

After a few minutes, I led Sarah to the bar, buying us drinks to deepen the interaction. Jane briefly detached to dance with other guys, and I thought Sarah might have lost interest. However, Sarah returned within five minutes, reinforcing her investment. We moved outside to smoke, where she shared my cigarillo—an IOI signaling comfort and attraction.

Sarah escalated physicality significantly: she backed her ass onto me, sat on my crotch for an extended period with her legs draped over mine, and tightly held my arm around her shoulders. These actions indicated strong attraction and comfort. During kino escalation, I placed my arm around her shoulders, and my hand briefly grazed near her chest, triggering a light argument—a frame test. I stayed calm, defused the tension within two minutes, and regained control.

AMOG Interference​

Two local guys (AMOGs) approached, attempting to disrupt by insulting Sarah and Jane (calling them “whores”). I ignored them completely, maintaining a laid-back frame, which neutralized their impact. Sarah’s hook remained strong; she became defensive toward the AMOGs, solidifying our connection. Jane struggled with aggressive kino from one AMOG, which she rebuffed.

Natural Guy & Further Dynamics​

A third guy (handsome, “natural” archetype) joined but lacked game and frame control. He engaged Jane but fumbled, escalating tensions. Jane accused him of inappropriate touching (grabbing her waist), which seemed exaggerated. The AMOGs returned, escalating aggression, but I continued ignoring them, focusing on Sarah.

Second Bar Interaction​

We returned inside, grabbed another drink, and avoided the AMOGs by hitting the bathroom. The natural guy reappeared, and I briefly “pimped” him to Jane to keep her occupied, but his weak game caused friction. Sarah’s investment remained high—she sat on my lap, shared drinks, and smoked my cigarillo. Jane even tried to push Sarah to kiss me, though I didn’t force the close to maintain frame. I forget if I did or not, maybe.

Closing Moments​

The interaction with Sarah lasted ~3 hours, with multiple IOIs: sitting on my lap, backing her ass onto me, legs draped over mine, holding my arm tightly, sharing drinks/cigarillo, and returning after brief separations. She left in a cab with Jane but expressed interest in staying connected. She never attempted to ditch me, even when briefly separated (e.g., grabbing drinks or checking on Jane), indicating a strong hook.

Analysis: Was Sarah Pullable, Attention-Whoring, or What’s Going On?​

Based on the interaction, Sarah exhibited strong IOIs and investment, suggesting she was likely pullable, though logistics and group dynamics posed challenges. Here’s the breakdown:

• Evidence of Pullability:
  • Strong Hook & IOIs: Sarah’s physical escalation (sitting on your crotch, legs draped, holding your arm, backing her ass onto you) and consistent return after separations (e.g., checking on Jane) indicate high attraction and comfort. Sharing your cigarillo and drinks further shows investment.
  • Group Dynamics Management: Sarah prioritized you over Jane, pushing her friend away multiple times to focus on you. This suggests she was willing to isolate with you, a key factor for a pull.
  • Time Investment: Spending ~3 hours with you, with no attempts to leave, signals she was engaged and potentially open to leaving with you.
  • Defensive Behavior: Her aggression toward the AMOGs and loyalty to your interaction show she valued the connection, not just attention.
• Attention-Whoring Indicators:
  • Sarah briefly detached to dance with Jane and check on other guys, which could suggest attention-seeking. However, she returned quickly (within 5 minutes) and re-engaged, indicating these were likely tests or logistical moves to manage Jane, not a pattern of seeking validation from others.
  • Her strong physical escalation was targeted at you, not broadcast to the room, which rules out classic attention-whoring (e.g., flirting with multiple guys for validation).
• Challenges to Pulling:
  • Jane’s Jealousy: Jane’s envy and pickiness created a logistical barrier. Sarah was conscious of Jane’s feelings, as you noted her concern about Jane’s jealousy early on. This likely prevented full isolation or a same-night pull.
  • Venue Dynamics: The AMOGs’ aggression and the natural guy’s weak game kept Jane unoccupied, making it harder to isolate Sarah without Jane feeling abandoned.
  • Escalation Calibration: The kino misstep (hand near chest) caused a brief frame test, which you passed, but it may have made Sarah hesitant about immediate escalation to a pull. Slower escalation might have built more trust for a venue change.
• What’s Going On?: Sarah was attracted and invested, likely pullable with better logistics. Her behavior suggests genuine interest rather than attention-whoring. The primary obstacles were Jane’s jealousy and the chaotic venue dynamics (AMOGs, natural guy). Sarah’s loyalty to you over other guys and her physical escalation indicate she saw you as a high-value option, not just a source of attention. Her returning after separations and expressing interest in staying connected further support this.
• Pull Feasibility: A pull was plausible if you’d isolated Sarah further (e.g., suggested a quieter venue or after-party) and managed Jane’s logistics (e.g., pairing her with a wing or the natural guy). The 3-hour investment and strong IOIs suggest she was open to escalation, but Jane’s presence and the venue’s hostility likely made her prioritize leaving with her friend.

Key Dynamics​

• Jealousy & Group Dynamics: Jane’s envy was a major obstacle. She struggled to communicate and was less receptive to other guys, amplifying her frustration with Sarah’s attention toward me. Sarah’s efforts to prioritize me were a strong green light.
• AMOG Handling: Ignoring the AMOGs preserved my frame and exposed their insecurity. Their insults backfired, strengthening my position.
• Calibration: The kino misstep was a reminder to escalate gradually in high-pressure environments. Recovering from the frame test was critical.

Lessons Learned​

1. Solo Game Resilience: Going out alone builds adaptability and forces reliance on your own frame.
2. Two-Set Dynamics: Hooking the target is half the battle; managing the friend’s emotions is critical. Jane’s jealousy nearly derailed the set.
3. AMOG Neutralization: Ignoring disruptive guys preserves frame and leverages the target’s investment.
4. Escalation Timing: Slower kino escalation prevents pushback in chaotic venues.
5. Logistics for Pulls: Pairing the friend with a wing or isolating the target earlier can enable a pull in two-sets.

Follow-Up Plan​

Get the contact information, I’ll text in a day or two with a playful callback. Goal: Set up a Day 2 meetup to build on the connection.

Final Thoughts​

This night reinforced staying unreactive, calibrating to group dynamics, and capitalizing on a strong hook. Despite the challenging ratio and AMOG interference, I maintained frame and built a solid connection. The natural guy’s failure underscored the importance of game over looks. I’ll refine my two-set strategy and focus on isolating targets earlier for stronger closes.

I feel like I could of pulled if the natural, swed dude didn't get into argument with friend and the friend was just a evil bitch who didn't want her friend to get some cock.

Stats​

• Approaches: 2 (older woman, two-set)
• Hooks: 2
• Time in main set: ~3 hours
• Drinks bought: 3 (2 for Sarah, 1 for self)
• IOIs: Multiple (kino, sitting on lap/crotch, legs draped, holding arm, sharing drinks/cigarillo, returning after detaching)
• Outcome: Contact secured, potential Day 2

I texted the next day, ghost, I'll wait a couple more days and see what happens

 

[Skills]

its a little tricky with the 2 sets, if the friend does not find a partner odds go down, unless you are able to stay in set and take the 2 set home..... or if you target helps you a bit with the isolation, so you got a kind of seed the pull and train her on what to say to her friend......

With the amogs you could have do seductive topics and go in the psychology of their behavior while dhving your social dynamics.... "ignore them they just like you, but have no clue on what they are doing to seduce and getting frustrated that is why they are acting angry, is not you, is the frustration of the lack of results blah blah"....

sometimes with 2 sets you can stay in set and just take them home or share uber, till you end up in closing location with your girls at the end..

 

[Swati]

"ignore them they just like you, but have no clue on what they are doing to seduce and getting frustrated that is why they are acting angry, is not you, is the frustration of the lack of results blah blah".

I told my girl that the way these local guys act shows they're jealous and sexually frustrated. They’re mad because they don’t get attention from girls, including her, and they’re upset she’s with me, a more foreign guy. She seemed to agree, based on how she was talking.

The thing that ruined the vibe was that she told them to fuck off and being rude aggressively


That "I'll take you home" is a good strategy to use. I was hoping the "natural" swed dude could just get a hook, but he fucked it up somehow.

 

[Swati]

if you target helps you a bit with the isolation, so you got a kind of seed the pull and train her on what to say to her friend......

Should of used this strategy, pushed it at some point, I should of seeded for something, my total responsibility here.

 

[Skills]

I told my girl that the way these local guys act shows they're jealous and sexually frustrated. They’re mad because they don’t get attention from girls, including her, and they’re upset she’s with me, a more foreign guy. She seemed to agree, based on how she was talking.

The thing that ruined the vibe was that she told them to fuck off and being rude aggressively


That "I'll take you home" is a good strategy to use. I was hoping the "natural" swed dude could just get a hook, but he fucked it up somehow.

Nope you can not rely on naturals.. most of the time they fuck it up unless you help them and coach them a lot while together

 

[average_daygamer]

Interesting analysis and a prime example of why I find nightgame so inefficient.

In this example, you approached a pair of girls who were not known to the other males into he venue.

Now imagine trying to approach the hottest girl in a mixed set!

There is no way you wouldn't have been aggressively confronted!

The biggest problem with nightgame. Too much competition and there is always a bigger guy!