Some harsh thoughts per se

[trashKENNUT]

Women are 'fuck up'.

I do not care what people say. Cassanova lied to get women into bed. And he understood how things work. Women lie to themselves, idenfity themselves with men just to get his shaft.

When 'bitter' men says "She deserves it", i don't blame them.

It is just the way that it is. It is nothing cool about seeing women getting fucked over or anyone fucked over but they are not being taught to bring value to the table and most men are getting to know this. Which is why they are annoyed. And Feminism dare to bring "family values". The irony when religion themselves noted that your wife and children can be your enemy.

How can you explain to a women that she is the definition of self-destruction...

Then i realize, women do lack higher level choice of perception. They are intelligent but "dumb". It is like having eyes with no vision. And to make this worse, because society has individuals ideas, women are being sent to the slaughter house. (as RSD Tyler noted)

Sure they 'deserved' it as a taxi driver once noted this to me while he was driving me and my colleagues. My colleagues were girls... so i have to bring the conversation back to neutrality. But yea, they also likely to self destruct themselves as well. It's a human thing. Make this worse, their unaccessibilty to access from a deeper point of perception, which is before perception, makes them susceptible to a lot of shit.

Female adaptability. Their mission is to reproduce and survive. Nth else. They can wear short shorts in a library and wear swearter to illuminate men holding them or protection but sex is sex.


Zac

 

[Chase]

Zac-

Bitterness is always due to one of two problems.

Either your value is too low, or your attainability is.

If your value’s too low, you’ll be bitter because the women you want pass you over or won’t behave. They don’t value you enough for that.

The solution here is either to lower your sights to women closer in value to where you are (i.e., lower in value than the women you’re going for right now)… or to get to work on game and fundamentals, and improve your value to the point where you’re at or over the level of the women you want.

If your attainability’s too low, you’ll be bitter because you make WOMEN bitter. Some may go on the warpath against you, while others may just snub you.

The solution here is either to raise your sights to women closer in value to where you are (i.e., higher in value than the women you’re going for right now)… or to get to work on game and fundamentals, and improve your attainability to the point where you’re attainable even to women who are far beneath you in value.

All the stuff men get bitter about – women attacking them, betraying them, snubbing them, being uninterested in them, treating them poorly, acting bored with them, picking other guys over them – it’s all due to too low value or too low attainability.

Figure out which one it is, fix it, and suddenly, like magic, there’s nothing to be bitter about, because women just stare at you with big doe eyes and treat you like you’re selling ice cream.

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

Chase,

Bitterness is always due to one of two problems.

Either your value is too low, or your attainability is.

If your value’s too low, you’ll be bitter because the women you want pass you over or won’t behave. They don’t value you enough for that.

The solution here is either to lower your sights to women closer in value to where you are (i.e., lower in value than the women you’re going for right now)… or to get to work on game and fundamentals, and improve your value to the point where you’re at or over the level of the women you want.

If your attainability’s too low, you’ll be bitter because you make WOMEN bitter. Some may go on the warpath against you, while others may just snub you.

The solution here is either to raise your sights to women closer in value to where you are (i.e., higher in value than the women you’re going for right now)… or to get to work on game and fundamentals, and improve your attainability to the point where you’re attainable even to women who are far beneath you in value.

All the stuff men get bitter about – women attacking them, betraying them, snubbing them, being uninterested in them, treating them poorly, acting bored with them, picking other guys over them – it’s all due to too low value or too low attainability.

Figure out which one it is, fix it, and suddenly, like magic, there’s nothing to be bitter about, because women just stare at you with big doe eyes and treat you like you’re selling ice cream.

I think there's one mistake. You mean lower in value than the women you're going for right now. Is it? or higher?

and this is great info. I can't grasp it yet though i understand it. My mind is tangle like a wire.

Zac

 

[Drck]

Zac,

We always have a choice to perceive things differently. One looks in the sky and all he sees is darkish clouds, he says that it will rain again and he'll get all wet. It's a miserable day for him, so he starts analyzing when the clouds disappear. Another one looks in the sky and says that eventually all clouds will dissipate and all will be blue again. It is a great day for him, he's just enjoying himself. Yet another one looks in the sky and says that it will be blue again, and that it will be so fucking hot that he can't take it anymore. It is also a miserable day for him, he can't wait till there are more clouds...

It is all just personal perception, we can chose to see sky differently - yet sky is just sky, day is just day, and clouds are just clouds, they simply come and go... none of the doesn't really care about what you think and how you perceive them, none of it really cares how much you will analyze it, understand it, or feel about it...

So the way we see things and people is simply a reflection of our minds. We can chose to see girls as selfish, dishonest, lying, and unstable slutty bitches. And true, sometimes that's how they behave. We can see them as fucked up, and true - we will always find lots of reasons to support the our claim. But we can also chose to see girls as friendly, silly, cute and sexy - and also true, that is also how they are, we can also find many reasons to support this perception...

The thing is, if we chose to perceive them negatively, they will look at us negatively. But if we chose to look at them in positive way, they will also see us in positive way... They simply just mirror our own state of mind...

And we can also chose analyze and over-analyze all the problems and different minds set, and can keep finding more and more to understand and more to discover. And the more we analyze the more is there to analyze, with each great answer there always come more and more questions... We can chose to blame and play victims, and the more we blame and feel victimized, the more blame and victimization is there... There is no end to it, it is like a visciuos cycle... Or, we can simply chose to accept things the way they are, and instead of analyzing problem over and over we can simply focus on solution...

Here is the solution: Chose to see girls as cute, silly and sexy, chose to seek the positive in girls and minimize the negatives. Yes, girls do love sex, and there is nothing wrong with it, sex is life and life is sex. Chose to believe that you are a great and desirable guy, and minimize your faults. Chose to accept things the way they are, sometimes by accepting things we will discover much more understanding than by analysis. Minimize the analysis, focus on acceptance of things that you have no power to change...

 

[Chase]

Zac-

I think there's one mistake. You mean lower in value than the women you're going for right now. Is it? or higher?

In the first example, right. She's a supermodel and you're the receptionist checking her into the hotel she's staying at. Too low value for her (unless you have the best personality ever and have her cracking up and blushing as you check her in... and she isn't overly status-conscious).

In the second example - too low attainability - part of the problem may well be that you are too HIGH value. You're the traveling businessman in a fancy suit and she's just the girl selling SIM cards at the airport. Either way, she doesn't feel like she can access your value in any way that is meaningful to her, thus you are unattainable.

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

Drck,

We always have a choice to perceive things differently. One looks in the sky and all he sees is darkish clouds, he says that it will rain again and he'll get all wet. It's a miserable day for him, so he starts analyzing when the clouds disappear. Another one looks in the sky and says that eventually all clouds will dissipate and all will be blue again. It is a great day for him, he's just enjoying himself. Yet another one looks in the sky and says that it will be blue again, and that it will be so fucking hot that he can't take it anymore. It is also a miserable day for him, he can't wait till there are more clouds...

What if you can look onto people and smile while having thoughts that you know you can fuck them over? It's like those new sci fi war films where in my mind, i am the General at a the 'high tech planning table' and this screens of information and possibilities are appearing in front of me.

: Chose to see girls as cute, silly and sexy, chose to seek the positive in girls and minimize the negatives.

I am seeing the positive in girls, but the negatives are just as valid in my mind. It's a rational paranoia. I like to be plug back in the matrix or erase everything once in awhile, but just as Chase noted before on parents living in the Great Depression or you being poor will always be at the back of your head, it does affect you in someway.

I can only see it as a blessing and a curse, if that's a way to put it. I am seeing everything. Makes it sounds like i know everything but not really that way.

And that's the thing, when men complain or people complain or even women complain, i can't blame them. Because i know.

Zac

 

[Drck]

Hi Zac,

Zac: "What if you can look onto people and smile while having thoughts that you know you can fuck them over?"
>>>> Well, we can talk about honesty issues. For example, you ask your friend to borrow money while knowing that you have no intention returning it back, that is dishonest. Or, you could become e.g. a great politician if you can look into people's eyes, be confident and look sincere, get everybody to believe you because you "look honest" - while you know that half of your speech is BS and you are actually intending to do something totally different than you are promising... They lie in order to prove that what they believe in is right - which is just wrong.... That's dishonesty, those are pure lies, it is purposeful deception of other people. That's unfortunately the current leadership in USA, these individuals are masters of deception in power, and it is worst than it looks. So no, don't do that, people will be disgusted with you as well if you do that...

But I am assuming that you are talking about girls, e.g. you have the 'seduction power' to seduce a girl while you perceive her as innocent. IMO this is much different issue than the honesty issue above. A guy may believe that he wants to do something bad TO those girls, he thinks that he has to 'convince' them to have sex against their will. He was raised under the belief that girls don't really want to have sex, thus if he seduces them he sort of tricks them into having sex against their will (and true, having sex against her will is bad)...

But that is, however, a wrong perception. A guy doesn't really 'trick' girls into doing something they don't want. Girls DO love sex and they want it, it is their primary drive. Unfortunately they were/are being oppressed by society for centuries, they are being shamed as sluts for such behavior and so on, thus it might be quite difficult for many girls to open up sexually to a guy they really like. Said otherwise, they love sex but they will do everything not to be called sluts or whores, they may pretend that sex is bad or immoral and so on...

So these girls have to TRUST the guy who they want to be with (which is opposite to the example of politicians above). You want to be that guy who they trust, you don't want to "fuck them over". You don't want to "look honest", you want to "be honest". They need to know that they can have sex safely - without being called sluts. They need to know that they can't be judged for their desires, especially not by the guy they are with...

The guy - commonly called seducer here - is not really a 'seducer' per se, he is simply creating mental, emotional and physical environment where she can be comfortable enough WITH him to express her true sexual desires. He is the guy who enables her to feel free of society constrictions, he is the guy who allows her to express her most intimate feelings...

This guy - call him lover - doesn't do things TO her. He does things WITH her, and that is the key difference. He can of course "fuck her over" as you say, that is dump her after he has sex with her (we can call him an asshole), but there is no need for that. He can remain as a Lover, a person who she can have sex anytime she wants without being judged - yet who remains assertive enough so he doesn't become her provider/husband... She can always trust him because he doesn't judge her for her desires, but at the same time she knows he will never become a provider...

So you want to be always honest, you don't want to "fuck people over", you don't want to be that politician... At the same time, you want to be a great lover - who is assertive enough to remain free of any provider-ship... Be the guy who is honest, who she can fully trust. Don't be the guy who will fuck her over...

Zac: "I am seeing everything"
>>>> The problem is in constant over-analyzing. By analyzing and analyzing, we are only MAGNIFYING some problems. We are basically making the problem much bigger than it is because we think about it nonstop. So when we stop analyzing, most of the problem will disappear. It will disappear like a magic...

As stated above, you can see the positives in girls, or just the negatives. Or you can see both, it is just your choice what you chose to see. There is nothing wrong with seeing both sides (positive and negative), that is actually the correct way to see things or people. You always want to see as many details as possible, many people can't do that at first place...

On the other hand, we also have to be more selective in what we pay attention to. If I want to be successful in bench pressing 300 pounds, I have to chose to see the success, the positives: I have to believe that I can do it, giving that I'll work hard and be persistent enough. I have to create a plan, schedule, improve my diet. I can't constantly keep remaining myself that I can fail. Failure is of course one possible outcome, but I just don't want to accept it, I can't focus on it...

The same way, if I see a pretty girl I have to chose the positives: She is cute, silly and sexy, and we will have a good time. I can't waste time thinking about rejections and bad feeling, about her and my problems, I can't spent time analyzing what everything can go wrong... I simply have to believe that it will work out great with this girl, that we can have a great time, and if not - well, there is thousands of other girls...


Most of us have to learn to stop analyzing failures, and instead focus on analyzing success...

 

[trashKENNUT]

Drck,

Well, we can talk about honesty issues. For example, you ask your friend to borrow money while knowing that you have no intention returning it back, that is dishonest. Or, you could become e.g. a great politician if you can look into people's eyes, be confident and look sincere, get everybody to believe you because you "look honest" - while you know that half of your speech is BS and you are actually intending to do something totally different than you are promising... They lie in order to prove that what they believe in is right - which is just wrong.... That's dishonesty, those are pure lies, it is purposeful deception of other people. That's unfortunately the current leadership in USA, these individuals are masters of deception in power, and it is worst than it looks. So no, don't do that, people will be disgusted with you as well if you do that...

and that is the thing. Because you believe it and you identify with it. I know this is offensive. Offensive here means basically here i am pushing your belief system aside.

I think it is important to be sincere. but i kind of know how the world works...

Sidenote: When you see honesty is also an idea, you realize that you are free. It's an emotional freedom i guess. I talk to Chase about how i am 'soft' and how people feel SUPER DUPER ANNOYED when i 'BETRAY' THEM only because they fuck me over on small things little by little.

but truth can be scary. I notice this. We humans... our eyes tend to look away everytime we say something intense. Not from an anger standpoint but from a pure but intense information. I think the human body can't handle that kind of stuff.... plus added being socially calibrated/gracefully like shrugging shoulders But that talk is for someday.

But I am assuming that you are talking about girls, e.g. you have the 'seduction power' to seduce a girl while you perceive her as innocent. IMO this is much different issue than the honesty issue above. A guy may believe that he wants to do something bad TO those girls, he thinks that he has to 'convince' them to have sex against their will. He was raised under the belief that girls don't really want to have sex, thus if he seduces them he sort of tricks them into having sex against their will (and true, having sex against her will is bad)...

But that is, however, a wrong perception. A guy doesn't really 'trick' girls into doing something they don't want. Girls DO love sex and they want it, it is their primary drive. Unfortunately they were/are being oppressed by society for centuries, they are being shamed as sluts for such behavior and so on, thus it might be quite difficult for many girls to open up sexually to a guy they really like. Said otherwise, they love sex but they will do everything not to be called sluts or whores, they may pretend that sex is bad or immoral and so on...

So these girls have to TRUST the guy who they want to be with (which is opposite to the example of politicians above). You want to be that guy who they trust, you don't want to "fuck them over". You don't want to "look honest", you want to "be honest". They need to know that they can have sex safely - without being called sluts. They need to know that they can't be judged for their desires, especially not by the guy they are with...

The guy - commonly called seducer here - is not really a 'seducer' per se, he is simply creating mental, emotional and physical environment where she can be comfortable enough WITH him to express her true sexual desires. He is the guy who enables her to feel free of society constrictions, he is the guy who allows her to express her most intimate feelings...

This guy - call him lover - doesn't do things TO her. He does things WITH her, and that is the key difference. He can of course "fuck her over" as you say, that is dump her after he has sex with her (we can call him an asshole), but there is no need for that. He can remain as a Lover, a person who she can have sex anytime she wants without being judged - yet who remains assertive enough so he doesn't become her provider/husband... She can always trust him because he doesn't judge her for her desires, but at the same time she knows he will never become a provider...

So you want to be always honest, you don't want to "fuck people over", you don't want to be that politician... At the same time, you want to be a great lover - who is assertive enough to remain free of any provider-ship... Be the guy who is honest, who she can fully trust. Don't be the guy who will fuck her over...

I kind of never see eye to eye with this post not because i hate women, not because women sucks, not because women want my dick all the time. But it kind of amaze me that what you associate with becomes you.

Like right now: I feel those who are bitter.. and because i write the post here, you guys perceive that i am bitter. (It's a pretty amazing shit. Now i know people side with women in social circles and then look for their friends, i guess ASSOCIATION WILL ALWAYS BE KEY, UNLESS I PROVIDE VALUE. MY VALUE MUST SUPERCEDE OR I CANNOT ASSOCIATE WITH LOW LEVEL PEOPLE OR BITTERNESS/ANGER/SADNESS. Depends on social environment and culture. A black guy must smile more or he's gonna rape somebody, as per mainstream bullshit)

NOBODY JUDGES TAYLOR SWIFT FOR HAVING MULTIPLE EXES, BECAUSE SHE SINGS GREAT SONGS AND RELATE WITH PEOPLE.
NOBODY JUDGES MARIA SHARAPOVA BECAUSE SHE ADMIT SHE DATED AND HAS MANY EXES, AND PLAYS TENNIS AND ENTERTAIN OUR LAZY UNSUCCESSFUL ASSES.

That is some notes.

The same way, if I see a pretty girl I have to chose the positives: She is cute, silly and sexy, and we will have a good time. I can't waste time thinking about rejections and bad feeling, about her and my problems, I can't spent time analyzing what everything can go wrong... I simply have to believe that it will work out great with this girl, that we can have a great time, and if not - well, there is thousands of other girls...


Most of us have to learn to stop analyzing failures, and instead focus on analyzing success...

I hope you continue that way because you are accustomed to it. For me, your point on focusing creating success is a good note. Fortunately, i come to a recent conclusion on creating success as well. Your note just make it way more good.

Zac