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Hi everyone,
tl;dr:
Any tips on how to identify what part of your game isn't working? I've read the "What to do when your approach just isn't working" article several times, but I seem to be stuck where I think I'm doing everything right, but I'm still not getting the results I want. Is there a way to tell what specific part of my game is giving me issues?
Full question:
I seem to be stuck with regards to attracting girls and I'm not sure what part of my game is causing the issue.
I believe I've approached enough girls that I'm starting to see the pattern, a pattern which probably applies to every guy and not just me: the girls that show clear signs of attraction to me are single mothers or 'older' girls (like late 20s or 30s) who are presumably looking to settle. The most challenging demographic for me by far has been girls in their mid to early 20s.
I'm having basically zero luck with this demographic.
My luck hasn't changed even after changing myself (ie. growing facial hair, better posture, better eye contact, dressing sexier, etc.) and after trying to follow the 'What to do...' article as best as I can. I'm concerned not only because of this demographic. But even among others, for example I never get approached by girls - any kind of girl. They're very warm when I initiate, and I get plenty of phone numbers and dates, but I never get approached. I've asked female friends to set me up with their friends and they all excitedly agree to help... but I haven't heard from even one of them. Not saying any of these examples as complaints, just trying to illustrate the problem I'm trying to communicate. I know you experts here with great game get approached at least occasionally.
When I've tried to ask friends (mostly females) about what impression I give off, or what 'type' of guy I seem to be, they all said something to the effect of 'nice, regular guy.' This is despite the facial hair, hair product, muscles from the gym, and decent clothing. Again referring back to the 'What to do' article...
1. I try to put out a sexy vibe to the best of my abilities, as best as I know how, and as best as I can after reading the articles on the subject.
2. I don't spam approach.
3. I approach as much as I can. I've approached at dance nights, clubs, stores, online, etc. and go out every week.
4. I definitely need to work on tailoring myself and finding a niche. That's definitely a work in progress. However, since I've been approaching in places that presumably all types of women go, I figure I'd be able to tell if my vibe or game works with some type of woman. And so far, it seems like all of them mid 20s or younger just aren't interested, regardless of what type they are.
5. I'd like to think I have a clear women goal.
6. I definitely go for the close.
7. No method mixing and matching. 100% GC.
8. To my knowledge, I'm not going too extreme.
So to provide another tl;dr:
I can't seem to attract young, attractive girls to save me, despite doing my best to improve myself, and for that matter I don't seem to strongly attract any girls, at least not enough for any of them to approach me, not even once. So as someone that will just keep working to improve myself, my question is, do you have any tips on how to identify specifically where you're going wrong with your game so you know what needs to be addressed first and foremost?
Thanks everyone!
tl;dr:
Any tips on how to identify what part of your game isn't working? I've read the "What to do when your approach just isn't working" article several times, but I seem to be stuck where I think I'm doing everything right, but I'm still not getting the results I want. Is there a way to tell what specific part of my game is giving me issues?
Full question:
I seem to be stuck with regards to attracting girls and I'm not sure what part of my game is causing the issue.
I believe I've approached enough girls that I'm starting to see the pattern, a pattern which probably applies to every guy and not just me: the girls that show clear signs of attraction to me are single mothers or 'older' girls (like late 20s or 30s) who are presumably looking to settle. The most challenging demographic for me by far has been girls in their mid to early 20s.
I'm having basically zero luck with this demographic.
My luck hasn't changed even after changing myself (ie. growing facial hair, better posture, better eye contact, dressing sexier, etc.) and after trying to follow the 'What to do...' article as best as I can. I'm concerned not only because of this demographic. But even among others, for example I never get approached by girls - any kind of girl. They're very warm when I initiate, and I get plenty of phone numbers and dates, but I never get approached. I've asked female friends to set me up with their friends and they all excitedly agree to help... but I haven't heard from even one of them. Not saying any of these examples as complaints, just trying to illustrate the problem I'm trying to communicate. I know you experts here with great game get approached at least occasionally.
When I've tried to ask friends (mostly females) about what impression I give off, or what 'type' of guy I seem to be, they all said something to the effect of 'nice, regular guy.' This is despite the facial hair, hair product, muscles from the gym, and decent clothing. Again referring back to the 'What to do' article...
1. I try to put out a sexy vibe to the best of my abilities, as best as I know how, and as best as I can after reading the articles on the subject.
2. I don't spam approach.
3. I approach as much as I can. I've approached at dance nights, clubs, stores, online, etc. and go out every week.
4. I definitely need to work on tailoring myself and finding a niche. That's definitely a work in progress. However, since I've been approaching in places that presumably all types of women go, I figure I'd be able to tell if my vibe or game works with some type of woman. And so far, it seems like all of them mid 20s or younger just aren't interested, regardless of what type they are.
5. I'd like to think I have a clear women goal.
6. I definitely go for the close.
7. No method mixing and matching. 100% GC.
8. To my knowledge, I'm not going too extreme.
So to provide another tl;dr:
I can't seem to attract young, attractive girls to save me, despite doing my best to improve myself, and for that matter I don't seem to strongly attract any girls, at least not enough for any of them to approach me, not even once. So as someone that will just keep working to improve myself, my question is, do you have any tips on how to identify specifically where you're going wrong with your game so you know what needs to be addressed first and foremost?
Thanks everyone!
