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Romy

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Hey guys, I recently started reading about day game and direct approach. I'm fairly confident so I picked it up pretty quickly. I approached 3 girls today on the street and landed a number from the hottest one. My question is, how do you guys feel when you find out that the number was fake or that she flaked? I sent her the message today but I still didn't get a response. I don't expect a response because there's a huge possibility of her flaking or actually giving me an imaginary number, I understand that.

So yeah, are you feeling down or just move on to the next one without emotion? Because I'm having mixed feelings. This girl was so hot that I WANT her to give me a response. Thanks in advance.
 

fsc

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Damn, congrats. That's pretty impressive.

It sucks, but try to forget about it. Do more approaches. Eventually you'll have approached so many hot girls that you'll easily shrug off fake numbers. Just be like "LOL, she gave me a fake number? I guess I gotta get me another."
 

ray_zorse

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In the last weel I did about 30~40 approaches, got about 6~7 numbers, all flaked though one replied to say it's extremely sweet of me but she is seeing someone (bullshit).. I feel totally good abt this especially as it's exposed some flaws in my texting game..next wk will be better. Persevere bro. Although based on this wk's results I'm gonna pay more attention to insta date logistics & push for same day lays, maybe more efficient use of time & effort.

cheers, Ray :)

PS. Just editing to say, in case I gave the wrong impression, that in my understanding flaking is the rule not the exception. See BarryS1's recent post of 1 year stats in this forum, also see "FR Bastion" in field reports, there's some examples & also maybe stats. But you'll have a good idea how its going to go from her reactions, how u close.out etc, for instance the only number I was genuinely excited about above was the one who did in fact respond (though negatively)
 

Parkour

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I think that when you get a number in the future, you want to call it right in front of her and make sure you have it right snd so that she has your name and number in her phone so she knows it's you. Play out the whole thing so you both have each others info. If she was giving you the wrong one, she'll either have to explain/defend herself or you can kind of ignore it/correct it and act like it was just a mistake. I either case, you sort of flip her flakey move around. In the latter, you even let her save face as you get what you want and earns few smoothness points. Whatever you do, don't imply that you're validating the number because girls give you wrong numbers. That's like negative pre- selecting yourself.
 

fsc

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ray_zorse said:
In the last weel I did about 30~40 approaches, got about 6~7 numbers, all flaked though one replied to say it's extremely sweet of me but she is seeing someone (bullshit)..
If they all flaked, then I think that's saying something about the quality of your initial interaction.
How much time are you spending with them? Does the girl know your intentions? Are you building enough comfort/trust/connection? What's the run-down of your approach?

For example, this is the run-down of what I do:
1. I almost always open with a direct opener.
2. I get some logistical information from them, such as where they are from, where they live, what they're up to, etc. I also probe for some basic info like what they do for a living, what they like to do for fun, etc.
3. I moderately deep dive a bit.
4. I suggest we should hang out or something, then close.

For #1, I try to be a bit sexual by opening with something like "you have amazing legs" or "you have an amazing figure" so that I reduce the risk of being placed in the platonic friend category. If I used either of those openers, then I follow up the opener with a light/moderate deep dive using "What do you do to maintain that figure? You seem like you've played sports in school" or something like that. I also really like the effect that a direct opener has on the girl during the day--it shocks them out of auto-pilot and gets them all giggly and blushy. I've had a few girls whose faces were all red throughout the entire interaction, even if they end up rejecting me.
For #2, I get logistical info so I can determine whether they live close by or if they're a tourist or whatever--to see if I can set up an easy, local date. If they're not up to much, then I'll try for an instant date. I probe for basic info for opportunities to relate, deep dive, and/or make a sexual innuendo.
For #3, I deep dive a bit to build a connection. I feel like this is important if you want a solid number. Keep in mind that you're approaching them because you are interested. So it would make sense to try to get to know about them.
For #4, Chase had an article about how it's more effective to plan a meet up THEN ask for the number, such as:
Guy: We should grab some coffee some time and continue this talk. You're really interesting.
Girl: Sure
Guy: Here, enter your number in my phone so we can set something up.

I get about 1 number every 10 approaches or so now (prolly because I go for who I'm attracted to rather than who gives me approach invitations), and almost none of the numbers I've gotten so far were fake. The majority of them respond, and some of them I've been able to get out. If they happened to be taken or if they're not interested, they happily and apologetically decline my number request or stop me after my opener or during step #2.

I'm also interested in others' run-down of their approach.

ray_zorse said:
I'm gonna pay more attention to insta date logistics & push for same day lays, maybe more efficient use of time & effort.
Yes, if you haven't read that already. I haven't been able to push for instant dates and same day lays since I've been going out with my friends, and I was the driver because they don't drive. I'm gonna start pushing for those now. I'll either pick up my friends later, bang in my car, or figure shit out some other way.
 

Romy

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fsc said:
Damn, congrats. That's pretty impressive.

It sucks, but try to forget about it. Do more approaches. Eventually you'll have approached so many hot girls that you'll easily shrug off fake numbers. Just be like "LOL, she gave me a fake number? I guess I gotta get me another."

Thanks, man. Yeah, I figure it's like that. This one was so hot that I literally wanted to stick a tongue in her mouth right then and there, though. Oh well, I'll try and do a scheme like Chase did in one of the articles. I'll give her a day and then I'll try an SMS once more.

ray_zorse said:
In the last weel I did about 30~40 approaches, got about 6~7 numbers, all flaked though one replied to say it's extremely sweet of me but she is seeing someone (bullshit).. I feel totally good abt this especially as it's exposed some flaws in my texting game..next wk will be better. Persevere bro. Although based on this wk's results I'm gonna pay more attention to insta date logistics & push for same day lays, maybe more efficient use of time & effort.

cheers, Ray :)

PS. Just editing to say, in case I gave the wrong impression, that in my understanding flaking is the rule not the exception. See BarryS1's recent post of 1 year stats in this forum, also see "FR Bastion" in field reports, there's some examples & also maybe stats. But you'll have a good idea how its going to go from her reactions, how u close.out etc, for instance the only number I was genuinely excited about above was the one who did in fact respond (though negatively)

That's awesome stats and confidence, dude. I'll probably get like that with more approaches.

Gotcha.

fsc said:
ray_zorse said:
In the last weel I did about 30~40 approaches, got about 6~7 numbers, all flaked though one replied to say it's extremely sweet of me but she is seeing someone (bullshit)..
If they all flaked, then I think that's saying something about the quality of your initial interaction.
How much time are you spending with them? Does the girl know your intentions? Are you building enough comfort/trust/connection? What's the run-down of your approach?

For example, this is the run-down of what I do:
1. I almost always open with a direct opener.
2. I get some logistical information from them, such as where they are from, where they live, what they're up to, etc. I also probe for some basic info like what they do for a living, what they like to do for fun, etc.
3. I moderately deep dive a bit.
4. I suggest we should hang out or something, then close.

For #1, I try to be a bit sexual by opening with something like "you have amazing legs" or "you have an amazing figure" so that I reduce the risk of being placed in the platonic friend category. If I used either of those openers, then I follow up the opener with a light/moderate deep dive using "What do you do to maintain that figure? You seem like you've played sports in school" or something like that. I also really like the effect that a direct opener has on the girl during the day--it shocks them out of auto-pilot and gets them all giggly and blushy. I've had a few girls whose faces were all red throughout the entire interaction, even if they end up rejecting me.
For #2, I get logistical info so I can determine whether they live close by or if they're a tourist or whatever--to see if I can set up an easy, local date. If they're not up to much, then I'll try for an instant date. I probe for basic info for opportunities to relate, deep dive, and/or make a sexual innuendo.
For #3, I deep dive a bit to build a connection. I feel like this is important if you want a solid number. Keep in mind that you're approaching them because you are interested. So it would make sense to try to get to know about them.
For #4, Chase had an article about how it's more effective to plan a meet up THEN ask for the number, such as:
Guy: We should grab some coffee some time and continue this talk. You're really interesting.
Girl: Sure
Guy: Here, enter your number in my phone so we can set something up.

I get about 1 number every 10 approaches or so now (prolly because I go for who I'm attracted to rather than who gives me approach invitations), and almost none of the numbers I've gotten so far were fake. The majority of them respond, and some of them I've been able to get out. If they happened to be taken or if they're not interested, they happily and apologetically decline my number request or stop me after my opener or during step #2.

I'm also interested in others' run-down of their approach.

I finish the interaction in under 3-4 minutes. I basically know the fundamentals.

That's a scenario I do, exactly in that order.

Usually, when I open it with a "I just saw you and thought you were cute", they lose it, they start giggling and blush so I don't think another compliment is necessary. The approach itself is already a compliment. Agreed with the rest. :)
 
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Mr.Rob

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Romy said:
So yeah, are you feeling down or just move on to the next one without emotion? Because I'm having mixed feelings. This girl was so hot that I WANT her to give me a response. Thanks in advance.

Something to get into perspective here is that ultimately you want her to be thinking this not you.

You want to have her thinking "that guy was soo amazing I WANT him to text me back!".

Fuck your feelings and be a pimp! Lol kinda kidding there.

For the record you better get used to women not responding when you first get into the game. I'm a year and 9 months deep and I'd say half the numbers I get still flake/don't respond (though I think my learning curve is below average so don't worry too much).

Don't take it personal, a LOT of women give out phone #'s like companies give out there shitty plastic pens to customers who walk in the door.

Girls don't want to reject you outright so its easier to give you their # and then just not reply as it's a softer rejection.

Ultimately at your stage since your just getting into this just be proud and satisfied with taking action dude.

Stick to the process, enjoy the humiliations, flakes, harsh rejections, and the results will come when they come.

Cool to have you here hope to see some field reports soon dude!

-Rob
 

D'EmpEroR

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Romy said:
''So yeah, are you feeling down or just move on to the next one without emotion? Because I'm having mixed feelings. This girl was so hot that I WANT her to give me a response. Thanks in advance.''
#1. You have to move on and NEVER feel down. Feeling down could lead to bitterness which is not sound for you. Remember: Even if she fakes and didn't text back, you've got ''NOTHING TO LOSE'' (as Chase wrote). Just keep approaching more girls and keep improving on yourself.
#2. No matter how hot she's, don't allow that to override you because it could lead to putting her on pedestals or chasing.
#3. Next time you're exchanging numbers with a girl, ensure to comfirm her number at that moment by dialling it instantly.
Like with one of the girls I approached yesterday, she objected to giving me her number but with persistence, she colleccted mine and I ensured she dial it to comfirm hers at that instant because she might just flake.
Finally, I think you've got to put on the ABUNDANCE MENTALITY while approaching women. It will help you moving on easily without feeling down.

Nice job though,
See you at the other end of the rainbow!
 

Romy

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Mr.Rob said:
Romy said:
So yeah, are you feeling down or just move on to the next one without emotion? Because I'm having mixed feelings. This girl was so hot that I WANT her to give me a response. Thanks in advance.

Something to get into perspective here is that ultimately you want her to be thinking this not you.

You want to have her thinking "that guy was soo amazing I WANT him to text me back!".

Fuck your feelings and be a pimp! Lol kinda kidding there.

For the record you better get used to women not responding when you first get into the game. I'm a year and 9 months deep and I'd say half the numbers I get still flake/don't respond (though I think my learning curve is below average so don't worry too much).

Don't take it personal, a LOT of women give out phone #'s like companies give out there shitty plastic pens to customers who walk in the door.

Girls don't want to reject you outright so its easier to give you their # and then just not reply as it's a softer rejection.

Ultimately at your stage since your just getting into this just be proud and satisfied with taking action dude.

Stick to the process, enjoy the humiliations, flakes, harsh rejections, and the results will come when they come.

Cool to have you here hope to see some field reports soon dude!

-Rob

D'EmpEroR said:
Romy said:
''So yeah, are you feeling down or just move on to the next one without emotion? Because I'm having mixed feelings. This girl was so hot that I WANT her to give me a response. Thanks in advance.''
#1. You have to move on and NEVER feel down. Feeling down could lead to bitterness which is not sound for you. Remember: Even if she fakes and didn't text back, you've got ''NOTHING TO LOSE'' (as Chase wrote). Just keep approaching more girls and keep improving on yourself.
#2. No matter how hot she's, don't allow that to override you because it could lead to putting her on pedestals or chasing.
#3. Next time you're exchanging numbers with a girl, ensure to comfirm her number at that moment by dialling it instantly.
Like with one of the girls I approached yesterday, she objected to giving me her number but with persistence, she colleccted mine and I ensured she dial it to comfirm hers at that instant because she might just flake.
Finally, I think you've got to put on the ABUNDANCE MENTALITY while approaching women. It will help you moving on easily without feeling down.

Nice job though,
See you at the other end of the rainbow!

Thanks, guys, for your amazing responses. I genuinely feel better and don't care about the girl rejecting me. Yeah, she rejected me through the text the next day.

Her: "Hey! I don't want to go out because I'm already seeing someone. I don't even know why I gave you my number.."

Me: "I wonder. Bye!"

That was it. I better get used to these kinds of responses. I'll definitely start doing more and more of them and the results will show up!
 
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