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Edd--19

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Hey there,

I've decided that I really want to get good at this skill set like a lot of other people here. I have done this for about 5 months but then came to an abrupt stop since March. I'm going to try and get a lot better and, hopefully with you helping, I can improve faster than I would have done on my own.

Here's some background information about myself. I'm 19 years old and currently studying maths at university. I've had a girlfriend for the past month (which was why I stopped approaching as much) but we barely saw eachother so we broke up. I have not been great with girls, when I was young (and I mean really young) girls used to like me but as I've grown older interest has dropped (I still garnered interest but I never did anything with any girls, that and I was a "nice guy"). I've started to become more of an asshole but I still have to work on it as I'm still too polite when I try. My fundamentals are quite good by the looks that I get from the street when I do walk. The main thing that I want to do is to focus on this skill and get past approach anxiety as fast as possible. I'm very self-conscious of how others view me because I don't want to look stupid, which then results in me doing nothing and looking stupid anyway.

My goal eventually is to be able to approach at least 10 girls when I go out. Currently I plan on doing day game and night game to increase how much I learn as well as covering the weaknesses of the other arenas. As university is out I'm going to try and get out 7 days a week to approach.

I'm about to go out and my target today is to just talk/approach 3 girls. Any help will be deeply appreciated!
 

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I've come back having approached 4 girls. The first 2 weren't very receptive to me. The last 2 were very warm with me and I got a date out of one the approaches. The first girl was a situational approach as I was haing trouble getting started. I was in the wrapping paper aisle and so was she. I was fishing for something to say and decided to comment on how "shiny" the paper was, it elicited a small laugh. I went on to say that there should be more plain paper, she agreed with me. At this point I turn to look at her, she looks 40, and she walks away (fortunately).

The next approach was direct and I did it in the shopping centre were I practice. This girl was about early to mid 20's, blonde hair slim about 5' 5" and dressed in a really cool black skirt. I adjust the direction I'm walking in and as she's a few feet from me I say:

Me: Hey there, I saw you walking and I wanted to say you're pretty. My names' Edd. (It was all I could think of)

Her: Thanks, that's really sweet. (as she keeps walking by)

I smiled (I think sexily), I didn't touch her, and my approach was way off seeing as she just kept walking by. It felt good though to start approaching again though. I also have noticed that I'm not sure what to transition the conversation to after I have opened if the girl does stay and talk. In the last approach I use a routine but I think it would be good to have a variety of tools to help in these situations. What do you usually do when you've approached directly? How do make a conversation without going straight into rapport?

This next approach was when I was browsing at sunglasses and thought I could meet the girl next to me by asking her opinion on them. This leads to a good 5-10 minute conversation in which she gets my number (I tried getting hers but shed wouldn't budge). The interaction went like this (I'll keep in bits I think are important):

Me: Hey, what do you think of these sunglasses on me?

Her: I'm not sure about them, but they look good.

I ask her to help me try some on and the conversation turns to why we're here...

Me: so what brings you to (store's name)?

Her: I'm just picking up some stuff for my mum.

Me: What about your Dad? It's father's day in a bit...

Her: Yeah, I have to look for him too! So what brings you here?

Me: Me, I like hitting on cute girls. Oh, and the sunglasses.

She laughs and the conversation continues for a bit, I then decide to qualify her by implying she isn't that ambitious, she qualifies and we get talking about what she wants to do. We talk about our differences and I make her laugh (maybe a bit too much, but I can't remember the conversation that well, but she was laughing/giggling through most of it). I touch her arm several times but she isn't standing that close to me so I put more effort than I probably should have done. The conversation turns to me as she states.

Her: You seem quite laid back.

Me: What do you mean? If there was a mattress behind me I'd be laid back. (I was having a good time and was relaxed I just thought I could get something about the bedroom in).

I can't really remember the rest of the conversation other than giving her my number, which was done on a high point, and her testing me by trying to get me to hold her mascara when getting her phone out. I declined pointing out that she can use the sunglass stands in front of us. We then talk a bit more and I take my exit.

The last girl I approached was when I was walking home. She looked really cute with her sunglasses on her so I pulled out my headphones and started off by saying.

Me: Hi, I saw you walking down here and I had to say that you're incredibly gorgeous. I'm Edd.

Her: (takes off her sunglasses, and giggling) Hi, I'm XYZ.

Me: No way! My cat used to be called that; he was such a fluffy ball of fun, but he molted a lot!

Her: Aww that's great I love cats, but I've got to get to Uni I'm running really late.

Me: I'm sure you can spare a moment.

She doesn't stick around after a few more tries at getting her to stay. I did touch her on the arm but I think it was only briefly. Does anyone know how long a touch should be when you have just met someone. I tend to take their hands but if I can't for some reason it would be good to know roughly how long to touch a girl for so that it doesn't come off creepy.

Thanks for reading, any feedback would be welcome.
 

Edd--19

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Okay then, I went out last night with a friend to watch the world cup in a bar. We queued at the bar for the first 15 minutes waiting to get served. All this time there were a couple of cute girls in front of us who I just didn't know how to approach even though they were half a step away. I tried getting into their conversation when the topic of travelling sprung up but they looked at me as if I was weird. I tried one more approach later that evening but that dive-bombed as well. Other than those two approaches that was it for the night.

This afternoon I go out to attempt some day game, but I wasn't feeling too great, mostly tired. the first 3 approaches were plain awful, the last girl thought I was creepy and when I left I couldn't stop laughing at how awkward the whole situation was. I made 3 more approaches the best being the final approach were I was out buying some beer for later tonight, whilst getting ID'd I started the conversation with the girl checking out my age. We talk for a few moments and I realised as soon as the conversation was over I should have gotten her number.

I haven't made this post too dense just basic information as today was just not great for approaching but having made 2 last night and 6 today so far I'm feeling pretty good about this at the moment.
 

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So the weekend was not the best for approaching. I was only able to approach 3 girls over the 2 days; 2 on saturday and 1 on sunday. I know this is not enough to build up my process and attractiveness fast; right now I think I'm travelling at a snail's pace... I'm trying to figure out if something is wrong with my fundamentals so I've been page flicking through Chase's ebook to give me some idea's.

As for the approaching aspect I'm going to approach 4 girls minimum, 1 girl has to be in a group and another has to be in a dense crowd. This should push my limits and boundaries to unchatered territory which will help with approach anxiety. What is the best way to push myself harder than before? I have the problem of not pushing myself and this makes approaching feel like pushing a boulder uphill.
 

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Yesterday went reallly well. I approached 4 girls, 1 was in a group and the other was in a crowd of people. 2 of my approaches faired quite well and got me into a starting conversation. The other 2 just blew up in my face a bit but it wasn't too bad I can barely remember one of them and the other girl was in a group so I cared more about just approaching her. I'm starting to think that I'm getting into more conversations now that the initial jolt of approach anxiety is fading. However I want to approach more girls but when I'm there I am more obstructive to myself. Besides that my aim for today is to approach at least 5 girls. Here are how my approaches went yesterday:

Girl 1: I don't really remember this approach. Actually I can't remember what I even did, I just know that she kept walking and that I came off nervous.

Girl 2: This girl was in a crowded area as she was casually walking the opposite direction from me. I noticed her and walked up to her and said

Me: Hey, I saw you walking and I had to tell you that you are the cutest girl (pause, she's laughing a bit) I've seen all day. I'm Edd.

We go on to have a really short conversation as I swiftly forget how to use words. I tried to touch her but as I was doing so I missed her arm (I don't know how that happened). As I was fumbling for nouns, verbs and adjectives to string together into sentences I was able to move her to the side so I could plant myself. She follows which was great. Unfortunately everything had now drained from my brain and I let her get back to her day. I should have tried for the number but I didn't.

Girl 3: She was oblivious to the world as she walked in my direction. I opened her with nearly the same opener as above but just said she was pretty. This conversation goes much better because she has a notable twang in her voice that exposes that she is from another land. We talk briefly about what the differences are between our 2 countries for about a minute. She then claims to have a boyfriend at which point I say "He doesn't have to know" and she responds with "I'm not that sort of girl" which makes me laugh inside. She leaves and I go on to look for girl number 4.

I've noticed that if you ask the girl "have you got a moment to talk?" this is shooting your foot. The girl will quickly leave, I guess it's because your not dominant enough to just assume and you have to ask; it also seems to think girls are a precious resource as you don't want to upset them. Which leads me to my openers; my openers aren't that great and what I've noticed is that the more generic I am the fewer girls start talking to me. So I'm planning to make some stronger openers to use which will hopefully hook more girls.

Girl 4: This girl was with her friend (walking the other direction from me; no surprise) and I go up to talk to her and deliver a pathetic opener. It's not worth the words to type it up. Of course she just goes "thanks" in a monotonic voice and strides away. I still approached her and even though I got rejected it still felt better than not approaching whatsoever.

I should be back with how my approaches go today, a target of 5 with using 1 chase frame and asking her why she does what she does (deep diving practise).
 

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Yesterday was terrible. I failed at aproaching 5 girls and only managed 1 instead. Which is a lame attempt. However, with the one girl that I did talk to I was able to chase frame her and deep dive her a bit. Here's the conversation:

Me: Hey, I saw you walking here and I had to say you are the most gorgeous girl Ive seen all day.

Her: (laughing) oh, thanks.

Me: What's you're name?

Her: XYZ. (she's still in small fits of laughter)

Me: How is your day going?

Her: Err, yeah, it's going well. I was meant to be meeting some friends but they ditched at the last moment, so now I'm here alone.

Me: Aww, that annoying (no said boredly enough, I think). Hey shall we move out the way of this foot traffic.

I start walking to the side and plant myself against a wall as I try to deep dive her about what she does at school, what she wants to do. It doesn't get too deep we barely just get under the surface for why.

Me: How come you wanted to take ... as subjects?

Her: I don't know, I was interested at the time but not so much now.

Me: Okay, so what would you rather be doing instead?

Her: I don't know.

The conversation wittles and dies briefly before I try and find out what she wanted to do when she was younger. To me, it looks like I'm interrogating her, I'm not really relating anything back to her; I'm just asking questions. I then try and chase frame her saying how she was looking at me earlier and smiling (we had walked past eachother once before, earlier in the day, I didn't approach and I noticed just too late that she was giving me appoach invitations, I was trying to refer back to this). It doesn't work as she immediately brushes it off and the conversation goes cold again.

At this point I can feel the social pressure breathing down my neck. I ask her if she wants to meet up some other time but she says no. I'm not overly surprised, I didn't really seem to offer anything to her and the conversation was not fun at all.

I think that I am going to work on my relatability in conversations. It seems to keep cropping up as something I don't do and don't understand.

I'm off to approach those 5 girls and I'll be staying there until I do.
 

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Today was a good day for approaching as I pushed myself on overcoming my approach anxiety. I approached the 5 girls that I was suppose to approach yesterday and I went up and said hi to 10 girls to help as well. I found out early on that just saying hi to a girl was much harder than I thought it could actually be. By about 3 girls I had to try and change tack for it to work and I was getting weary from struggling to say hi. In the end I settled for asking directions to some place just to say hi. Which worked nicely and got me in a more social mood.

After just saying hi to girls I thought more about how I was going about approaching as a skill and decidedd I was getting to hung up on what I would say after I opened. So this time around the 5 girls I approached I said my opener and then left. This turned out to make things easier as I didn't have to worry about what to say next, I was focused on just delivering my opener and not being pinned down by approach anxiety (I'm going to start calling it AA just for times sake). I'm going to try approaching 5 girls with my opener and then leaving as a practice run before properly approaching. Hopefully this will make tackling AA and conversation more efficient.
 

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The past few days have been a whirlwind of preperation for the summer so I have't had the time in the past few days to write up my approaches. Thursday I approached 7 girls, no numbers. Friday I aproached 7 girls I didn't get any numbers but I had a god conversation with one of the girls. I didn't approach yesterday, have some time to myself just to recharge my batteries. Today I only managed one approach in a card store. It went like this:

Me: All the cards look exactly the same, it's hard to choose between them.

Her: They don't look the same. Who are you buying a card for?

Me: My sister, how about you?

Her: Same.

Me: Oh I thought you were going to buy one for me.

The conversation dies and she moves on to another section of the store. The conversation wasn't enticing and my (attempted) tease/chase frame was like a plane taking a nose dive.
 
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Edd--19

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Just one approach made today so far, which led to a decent conversation. This girl was standing/leaning on a small advertising screen in a blue and white striped jumper and some sky blue jeans. Here's the dialogue:

Me: Hey there, I just want to say that I think you're really pretty. (I wasn't planning on talking with her as she didn't seem too interested in me in the first place)

Her: Thanks. (She turns to face me as if expecting a conversation so I continue)

Me: I'm Edd. What's your name?

Her: I'm XYZ.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: Yeah, it's going well. Just doing some shopping, how about you?

Me: I hope you've left some stuff for the other shoppers. (she laughs, I maneouvre myself so that I'm now leaning against the wall and she is standing)

I can't remeber the next few lines but we move onto the topic of climbing.

Me: What got you into climibing?

Her: I'm not really sure, I've just been doing it for a long time.

Me: Okay, What sort of rock climbing do you do? The everest climbing type?

Her: No I'm more of a rock climber.

We keep talking about rock climbing for a while but I don't find too much out about her. In the end she asks me if I like to travel.

Her: Do you like to travel?

Me: Yeah, I've been to the Caribbean, Sri Lanka, Thailand; What about you?

Her: Nah I'm not really a traveller. Also I'm (some disease that stops her from travelling, I think she was anaphylactic) so that means I have troubles going on planes. But I have been to lots of places here when I'm climbing.

Me: The views you must get when you're climbing must be beautiful. I've always wanted to see the rainforest from above watching the mist form from a waterfall.

Her: Yeah, that would be cool.

We talk a bit more and then mentions she has a boyfriend when I try to ask for her number. I didn't persist (which I should have) and walk away after another attempt at small talk. I think I should work on being less serious and more fun. Every time I go out I feel like I'm trying to think of the best way to say something or do something and then I either make a complete mess of it or I don't end up doing anything. Does anyne have any suggestions about this?
 

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After having a massive blow to my confidence this morning, I went out and tried starting as soon as I could. For about 2 hours I've been approaching and have met 27 girls. Out of those 27 I teased about 10 or so as I've been working on my teasing as I want to improve it. It makes some girls laugh but others don't react the girls who respond respond well. I'm also struggling to make the interactions sexual I will keep trying and hopefully it will break into me. My approaches have been weel received recently as I am not trying to take value back but am happy to give the compliment and then if the girl is interested then continue the conversation. This makes approaching easier as I don't have to worry about watching the conversation flail like a fish out of water if she doesn't want to talk.

Here are the 3 conversations that I had that netted me numbers:

Me: hey there, I saw you walking and have to say you have gorgeous eyes.

Her: Thanks.

Me: My name's Edd, what's yours?

Her: abc.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: Yeah it's going well.

Me: It must be if you've met me. (I was trying to tease her and this was the best I could think of, still it worked)

Her: haha, yeah, what are you up to today?

We continue talking and I grab her number, I'm only going to write the start of each conversation as I want to get my repartee skill up before I start focusing on deep diving (which I can do moderately). Here's the chase frame I tried to use on this girl. She just kind of looked at me in a weird fashion implying that I was a peculiar guy. This was a bit before I asked her for her phone number:

Her: (Just staring at me really intently, like she was burning a hole through me)

Me: It looks like you're trying to imagine me without clothes on. (Not said too loudly but not sexily, just plain nice guy tone)

This next girl I met about a couple of minutes after the first girl gave me her number. Here's the start of the conversation:

Me: Hey, I saw you walking and I wanted to tell you that you are really gorgeous, I'm Edd.

Her: Oh thanks, I'm def.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: Yeah it's going good thanks, just got my umbrella.

Me: Wow, you must've had a terrible day until you met me then. It does look like it could rain.

Her: Yeah, it must've been bad! Do you go to the university?

She then asks me a lot of rapid fire questions then, I keep trying to change the topic back to her but she asks where I live and tells me where she lives and is really excited through the entire interaction. This girl obviously liked me but I didn't know how to proceed. So in the end I grabbed her contact info and left. I then meet girl number 3 a bit further down.

Me: Hi, I saw you walking down here and I had to tell you that you have really, really gorgeous eyes. (I don't know why I keep saying really, I think its because I'm trying to stall for words).

Her: Oh, thank you.

Me: My name's Edd, What's yours?

Her: I'm XYZ.

Me: That's a lot of bags, it looks like you're ready for christmas.

Her: Haha, I've just got to go and post this parcel for my friend.

Me: Okay cool, how is your day going? (not going to use that line a 3rd time)

Her: It's going well thanks, (she says something else here but I've forgotton).

We have our conversation and she's really receptive and gives me her number. I reckon the last 2 girls will text back when I text and the first girl will become piled under the other messages I get. That's it for today, I stil can't believe I approached 27 girls in one day; that's more girls than I've approached in any week!! I'm going to try and keep doing what I've done today. Finally I know I haven't been doing much night game and I said I would but at the moment everyone is leaving Uni for summer so there have been lots of farewells to say.
 

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This week has been quite successful for approaching as I have racked up a nice approach count. So far though I'm struggling to get into conversations with girls they stop and thank me the compliment but then they go on about there day. I'm thinking I have to focus a bit more on my fundamentals, in particular my fashion. I also feel overwhelmed with the quantity of stuff to learn about in seduction and it drags my confidence down (I can still approach it just takes a bit longer to start). Here is how my process looks so far as I'm trying to sort that out so I can focus on my skills:

1- get to venue and start approaching early (or on way to venue)
2- ask the girl how her day is going and then tease her a bit
3- move girl and build compliance using requests

I can do 1 but 2 and 3 are rarer occurences in comparison. So overall for this week I have approached 62 girls (so far) gotten 6 numbers and 0 dates. Somewhere along the line I'm not making a big enough impact on these girls so that they will want to meet up with me later. The best approach was one I made 2 days ago and I was able to follow my process entirely and then expanded by deep diving her. We were having a good time and when I left she gave me a hug and a peck on the cheek (a bit friendly but nonetheless better than nothing). She was doing all the work throughout the interaction but I didn't make the conversation sexual enough. However before I work on chase frames and sexual frames I want to get into conversations first otherwise I won't be getting anywhere. I believe that it is mostly fundamentals but I could be wrong.

Also I plan on approaching 40 girls next week to keep this momentum up. That would give me around 100 girls approached in 2 weeks.
 

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Hey, I hope you haven't forgot that I still have 40 girls to approach by the end of this week, and don't worry yourselves I haven't vanished, just hit a bit of a sticking point so I've been taking a break. Anyway here's a quick update on how this week is going: so far I have approached 26 girls out of the 40 (12 on Monday, 5 Yesterday and 9 Today). Besides from that I've begun to persist more when approaching girls which has improved the number of girls that talk to me (and how many number I've gotten, seriously if you aren't persisting it works very well). Still struggling a bit with the teasing but once that skill is down my life will become a lot easier. Just one question to ask any experienced guys out there; I'm having a really tough time touching girls, one problem is that sometimes they aren't close enough to me so I try and get them to come closer (such as by saying I don't bite, or ask to inspect something they are wearing) but even when they are close I find it hard to touch the right way. I've read everything there is about touch but it still feels unnatural and even the girls I'm friends with say they don't like it or find it weird. Any help or advice you're willing to give me?
 

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Today was an utter blitz for approaching; I've surpassed my 40 approaches with 2 days to spare and have had some welcome results. Firstly my fashion sense has upped a bit which has garnered a bucket load of attention from nearly every girl and has made more girls react positively towards me. Next, I'm starting to notice which girls are into me and which ones aren't. Touching is becoming less of an issue as I've just been trying to use it as much as possible in as many high points as possible. I'm also starting to experiment a bit more in the field now and not caring what the girl thinks. Sex frames are also starting to creep up from my side of the interaction (my personal favorite i'll share with you in a bit, though I thought of it after the conversation which was unfortunate). All round really everything is just improving. I'll share this with you to whet your appetite for a field report from me.

Me: Hi there, I saw you walking by and I want to tell you that you are just gorgeous. (said with a pause to emphasise the effect)

Her: (Hugs me) You've just made my day!! That is so cute of you.

Me: So you think I'm cute. (said in a more I know you're thinking it way with a sexy smile)

Her: (Ruffles my hair like a dog; a bit derogatory) Yeah, I think so.

Me: Well I'm not a dog. How's your day going?

Her: It's really busy, I'm moving into my second year at uni so I'm really busy, I'm moving house with my parents.

Me: You live with your parents? (This is where I should have said; Well we'll have to be very quiet then)

Her: no I'm not living with them they're helping me move.

I deep dive her a bit about what she's doing at uni, I gain compliance and we're touching throughout the interaction.When it comes to getting a number she tries to get me to add her on facebook. It would work if I had facebook so I got her number after she says "My phone isn't working I can't do anything with it I have to use facebook". I'm not getting facebook again so I say to her "well if you want to meet me for that drink I'm sure you can make it work". We hugged once more and went our seperate ways. That's all there is from me right now guys, these are very speedy posts at the moment so if you are reading them and get the gist of what I'm doing I'm impressed.
 

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Back again guys, and todays (yesterday by the time this goes up) approaches where pretty enjoyable experiences so let's get into the nitty gritty of it. Before I go on though I want to know what you guys want out of this journal cause I've just realised that this journal isn't just about me; it's also about you guys learning through this journal if you're not a modern day casanova or getting that feel good spark coursing through you when you help others when girls aren't screaming your names ;). So I'm going to figure out what you guys want from this and any feedback will be happily received. So back to the journal, I approached 10 girls today and got 1 number and had a rather interesting approach happen; I think that can go at the end for a small laugh.

The first girl you're going to hear about was a gorgeous greek beauty that was strutting her stuff as she walked home after getting her dissertation back from the uni. Now I was apprehensive about approaching at first cause she looked a lot like a girl that lives in my halls and I'd rather not have that kind of fame spread throughout my accomodation (even though I'm moving in a few hours; hence why I'm typing this so late). Once I was certain that this girl was not who I thought she was I called out to her (we were about 20 feet from each other).

Me: Hey, I saw you walking and I've got to tell you that you are gorgeous... (I wasn't expecting this to go that well as it was my first approach of the day but this opening nets decent results and it's good for when you just can't think of any words)

Now before I could even finsih my senctence she says this (which catches me off guard completely).

Her: Hi, you're gorgeous, you've got a cool British charm about you. (Looks like this girl is familiar with approaching guys ;) ).

Me: Thanks, you're gorgeous yourself, I'm Edd, what's your name?

Her: I'm Hera (might as well seeing as she's greek), I'm so glad that you came over to flirt with me.

Me: Where's the accent from?

Her: I'm from greece.

Me: That's cool, I thought you were putting it on to put me off. How's you're day going?

Her: Yeah, it's going well, I just got my dissertation back from my tutor and I'm going to work on it now. How old are you?

Me: I'm old enough. What are you studying?

Her: I'm trying to get my master's in marketing. I'm the person who tries to sell bullshit to you (we laugh). I'm really glad you came to flirt with me most guys over here are so scared!!

Me: Yeah, guys aren't great, they get scared over the smallest things.

Her: Yeah...... (I can't remember the rest of the conversation from this point but I do know that we joked around about the greek and british stereotypes and I deep dived her a little bit).

We talk for a few minutes, at most 5, and then I go for the number close:

Me: So I'm in a rush, I want to get some shopping done, but you're a cool girl how about we grab some coffee some time?

Her: I'm probably going to be finishing up my dissertation so I won't have the time.

Me: How about this, if you do find some time we can meet up and go for that coffee, if not no worries; here type your number into here.

She goes ahead and plants her number right into my phone and I'm feeling pretty good about my first approach. I dropped her a line later in the day but she hasn't texted back yet but I'll still see if she's free for that date.

Before I move on I should mention to you guys that I did have a date on Monday with a cool girl. I couldn't find the time to get the interaction up seeing as moving place takes priority but I do remember that she "said" she had a boyfriend (it was obvious she didn't from how she was acting). So by the end of the conversation I had got her number (in roughly the same way as above) and then proceeded to have the following conversation over text, I hope you enjoy the next few lines (and notice the similarities between how crap guys are at approaching in the west, but hey that's why there's sites like these):

Me: Hey Jade, it was great meeting you earlier, save my number! Edd

Her: Well hello there! I was wondering if you'd get in touch, I guess you're relieved that I didn't give you the number for a takeaway company. How you doing? x (I decided against not replying cause from past experience as you keep replying. This is what happened with me and my ex. Which is an interesting story itself, the gist of it being that I met her the day before I was to head home for Easter and we ended up having a massive conversation when I was on the train home. Anyway 4 weeks later of non-stop texting between us we go on our date and we end up back at my place in 10 minutes of meeting up. NO JOKE, if I ever find the time I will try and get the messages that lead to this lay.)

Her: Hi Edd, so I have an incredibly awkward conversation to make... I don't actually have a boyfriend, it seems to have become an automatic thing I say (probably because usually when men talk to me they're absolutely hammered). I was a muppet, I've been kicking myself, and I'm really sorry. Would you still be interested in going for a drink or something sometime? x

Me: That's cool when are you free over the next few days?

We continue and plan the date for the next day in a café that's a 10 minute walk from were I live. She pays and we have a good conversation and have some sexual discussion and we relate and so on. At one point we start joking about having some bdsm fun in the café ;). So after about an hour I pull her home and we start making out and then... "we aren't having sex" leaves her lips. I try everything I can think of but it doesn't work. I persist but still nothing and in the end we realise we were after different things, she wanted a boyfriend and not a casual fling. Her frame was stronger than mine and the closest I got was her touching my junk through my jeans. At least I learned that I have to make my intentions clearer.

Anyway back on track with the days approaches. There are 2 I want to talk about but one is riling me up more than the other, and seeing as this is a novel-long entry I'm just going to put one up. It happens that I'm sitting down about to fill my stomach with a sweet chili wrap and crisp (or chips if you're across the pond). There's this cute brunette smoking next to me and I thought "hey I might as well".

Me: How's the cigerette? (I couldn't really think of anything else but what happens after surprises me)

Her: yeah?! It's good thanks. I've never been asked how my cigerette was before. Do you want me to move as you're about to eat?

Me: Nah, it's cool. (I shift my attention to my lunch believing the conversation has just ended)

Her: How's the wrap? (I'm utterly surprised that she's continuing the conversation, my fundamentals must be getting better)

Me: it'll be good when I can get it out of the packaging.

Her: It looks like torture from here.

Me: It feels a bit like BDSM from here (she laugh). How's your day going?

We connect on how we're students at rival universities and joke around a bit. I deep dive her about what she's doing and so on. As she's about to leave to get on with her day I go for the number close.

Me: it's been great talking to you, how about we meet up for coffee some time? Or are you a tea girl?

Her: Oh, I'm sorry I've got a boyfriend but you seem like a really nice guy.

So I sit there contemplating that last sentence and reviewing the interaction and how to improve it but it hits a key point. I'm too nice. I've been fine with getting numbers the past few days. I've got enough that I'm starting to forget which girls I've got to text about meeting up. However they don't reply. I don't think I'm hitting the hook point cause I dont get that many girls touching me that much (actually most girls rarely touch me back). I'm not being creepy otherwise the girls would run a mile in seconds, but they don't. At the moment I'm trying to reach the hook point but I couldn't think of a way to get there. At the moment I'm considering that I am actually so nice that the girls forget me after I've left. So my aim is to become an asshole and become adored by women. This will be hilarious to watch as I've always been raised to be polite and have always connected better with adults than my peers. I'm going to have to find the asshole manual and follow it to the letter.

If you've made it this far without having thoughts of tearing your hair out here's an odd approach that I made and also some bantering that works just incase your imagination is having a day off. First the approach, this girl was quite cute and looked about 17-18 (I'm 19 just incase anyone thinks I'm 27, like my ex thought I was before I told her).

Me: Hey there, I saw you waling by and wanted to tell you that you have lovely hair. I'm Edd.

Her: (stares blankly at me) Umm, okay.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: I'm 13.

Me: ...

And here's the banter line that works nicely if you're running short on ideas. It'll be in bold:

Me: Hey there, I saw you walking and I had to tell you that you are gorgeous. I'm Edd, what's your name?

Her: Thanks, I'm Juliet.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: It's going well.

Me: So it must've been awful and then you met me and it's been taken to a whole new level of good.

When said in a good way (jokingly and sexily) it always makes the girl laugh. I hope you have fun with it!
 

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Hey again, I've been very busy the past few days and haven't had the time to write up any entries but I've made some free time and can give you some field reports. Before I do that though I will give you a quick update on last week. Last week was an unusual week, it felt as if I was stumbling backwards instead of gaining ground so this week I'm determined to make up for it. What I mean is is that I found myself not keeping up with my goals that I set and I was falling short again and again. Anyway back into this week and today was my first day of approaching (I had given myself food poisoning on Sunday night). Here are 2 approaches that I made, one of them I consider the better one of the day and the latter the worst:

The first approach we can read over in a moment happened as I was walking towards my venue of choice and this girl comes floating across the road and I was determined to approach. So I opened:

Me: Hey , I saw you walking and I have to tell you that you have the most gorgeous eyes. I'm Edd.

Her: Hi, I'm Emily.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: Yeah, it's going fine. I'm just off to the library to do some work.

Me: Cool, what do you study?

Her: History.

Me: Like the medieval sort? (I'm not sure what I said here, but this is the gist of it.)

Her: Nah, more the 1800's.

I Deep dive her a bit more, I find out that when she was younger she wanted to be a fairy. We poke fun at how her history lecturers have first hand experience from the 1800's and we talk a bit about her plans to travel to South America after she graduates. If we get back into the conversation where she is talking about her travelling plans:

Her: Yeah I'm planning on travelling to South America!

Me: That's cool, where are you thinking of going?

Her: Well, we only have booked the tickets to Rio and we haven't planned anything else. One of my friends though says it doesn't matter, though he is quite spontaneous, but we'll end up getting kidnapped.

Me: You could end up in some dingy film. (I was trying to sex frame here but I didn't quite pull it off)

We talk for a bit longer and then I number pull and we briefly talk about how she's wearing a coat in summer. Things I can work on are my teasing, I really struggle with this and I just dont understand it all too well, but the coat in summer has given me a good idea for teasing future girls.

This next conversation was with a girl who was leaning against the wall of a clothes store. She hadn't seen me so I thought I'd go in and see how direct would work in this situation. She was fairly receptive however I completely lost it as I could not manage what words would help open our interaction.

Me: Hi, I wanted to tell you that you have lovely hair.

Her: Thanks.

Me: I'm Edd.

Her: I'm Jenny.

Me: How's your day going so far?

Her: Yeah, it's fine.

Me: Okay, cool, So why are you waiting around here?

I won't go into too much detail because it's painful to write and probably more so for you to read. Again I lack teasing in this conversation (as I do with most of my conversations at the moment). I seem to lack the ability to transition from opener to repartée. I'm going to go and try and get a grip on teasing so that the next few times I write in here the conversations won't have you gauging out your eyes ;).
 

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Today was hard. I was very tempted to not go out and just laze around "conserving energy". However I gave myself no time to think and went straight out the door as soon as I was ready. So walking down the street I saw this cute girl walking the opposite direction from me, I'm not feeling anything and don't want to approach but I never know what could happen:

Me: Hey there, I saw you walking and I want to tell you that you're really cute.

Her: Oh thanks.

She walks on, I wasn't expecting too much as it was the first approach but it would've raised my spirits if we had spoken for a few more lines. Though I have noticed that I should give my name immediately after my opener and should stop saying "there" as it feels like I'm othering the girl. We go our seperate ways and I head towards my venue (which is the city centre) and pass by all the 3rd years who are now graduating in their black robes and caps all giddy from the excitement because they are now harvesting everything their hardwork has been towards. I continue on down the road watching attractive strangers carry on with their lives until I spot a girl in the distance that takes my fancy.

Me: Hey, I saw you walking by and I had to tell you that you're gorgeous.

Her: Thank you.

Me: I'm Edd, what's your name?

Her: I'm Katy, I'm in a rush but thank you.

So to cut this long story short, I approached 10 girls and this was what happened with all of them (there were a few exceptions but the conversations ended within seconds anyway). With one girl I was able to persist with so she stayed for a bit but I couldn't think of anything to continue the conversation on and I let her get on with her day.

If anything today was just about persisting with approaching even when I didn't want to. Even though I didn't get any further than a brief conversation with any of those girls I still hung on and managed to approach 10 girls (even though I wanted to stop after 3).
 

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I've decided to change tack a bit with how I learn this skill set. Firstly I'm going to go and practise 3 things that I'm bad at and apply them over a course of a week instead of one outing. This should help with applying the technique and developing it as a skill comfortably. Besides you probably want to hear about how my day of approaching went. To tell you 2 things 1- it went well to start with and 2- I got a number from a cute girl (and nearly got a second from a girl who is seeing someone). Lets get into the approaches:

This girl was about 5' 5" and had flowing brown hair that had been cropped to her shoulder. She was walking around having fun shopping and had a nice air about her that made her stand out from the rest of the girls. I will clear this up before we head into the conversation; I am trying to brush up on my teasing, touching and qualifying. This will explain the early qualifier.

Me: Hi, I saw you walking by and I have to tell you that you are gorgeous. I'm Edd.

Her: Thanks. I'm Lily.

Me: Have you been having fun clearing out all the shops of their bargains?

Her: (laughs a little) Yeah, it's not too bad.

Me: Let's talk over here so we aren't in anyone's way (We move to the side). Do you do anything creative?

Her: Not really, no.

Me: Nothing musical, or arty?

Her: No.

Me: What do you spend your days doing then?

Her: Well I'm at sixth form. What do you do?

Me: I'm at Uni.

Her: What are you studying?

Me: Maths, how about you?

Her: Wow, uh I'm studying maths, English Lit and Lang, (I can't remember the other 2).

Me: 5 A-Levels, you must be a smart girl then.

Her: No, English Lit and Lang counts as one.

We go into how she wants to study law at university and how she has wanted to do it for sometime. I ask her her age (17) which is great. She then mentions that she has to leave and I suggest that we meet up sometime and she says yes. We then briefly touch on the topic about where she lives and then we part ways. That was probably the best approach I made of the day.

We'll move onto another girl that I approached where the interaction went well. This was the girl that wasn't certain on giving me her number (and in the end didn't) but didn't bring up that she was seeing someone until she decided against giving it to me (if you can make sense of that). This girl was on her way to work and had brown hair that was cut to her chest and was really cute in how she was walking.

Me: Hey, I saw you walking and had to tell you that yo have the most captivating eyes. I'm Edd.

Her: Thanks, I'm Harriet.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: Not too bad.

Me: Are you off to grab all the bargains then before the other shoppers have a chance?

Her: No, I'm off to work. How's your day?

Me: Yeah it's alright just enjoying the sunshine, do you get to enjoy the sun where you work or is it indoors?

Her: It's indoors I work at that shop just there (she points to a jewellery store).

Me: Looks like a nice place, I bet it gets tempting to try on some of the stuff they sell.

Her: It's nice but, no it's not that tempting.

The conversation continues, I move her and ask to look at a bracelet she's wearing. She complies and we talk for a bit longer. I go for the number and hit some resistance. She isn't sure about giving me her number and tries to say that "you can get it when I'm working". I don't buy it so I try again and she deflects by saying she is seeing someone. I try one last time, persisting but she is walking away and says that she isn't going to give it me. I walk on to find another girl to approach.

This next approach was not the best approach I have made. I'm going to share it with you cause it brings up a trap that I keep falling into (and some of you fall into). This girl was about the 4th approach I made out of my 10 and the first one who stopped to have an interaction with me. She was wearing an elegant hat that accentuated her features and sunglasses that completed the golden look.

Me: Hi, I couldn't help but notice your lovely hair as you were walking. I'm Edd.

Her: I'm Daisy.

Me: How's your day going so far?

Her: It's not been to bad thanks.

Me: Let's talk over here so we aren't in everyone's way (we move to a shop wall). What do you do when you aren't out on a shopping spree? (she doesn't have any bags with her so I thought I'd try a small tease)

Her: I'm not shopping today I'm just going to work.

Me: Oh, where do you work.

Her: I'm a dental nurse.

The entire conversation is just me asking a ton of questions on this girl with her giving barely anything back. I had lot's of chances to deep dive her but I didn't take them and she even made the comment "you ask a lot of questions and I don't know why you're talking to me". This is how I felt throughout the interaction and obviously how she felt. I had not been able to relate to her at all and hadn't deep dived her either. On the postive side I was able to move her quickly and tease her a little as that was my goal. Finally when she said she was engaged all she said was "I'm engaged to some guy" I feel very sorry for that guy.
 

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Hey Guys! I've been thinking that I haven't been trying hard enough to get good at this (quality wise). I stick to the same opener and I don't feel like I am pushing my limits as much as I should be. One reason for this is that I keep getting stuck at the same point in an interaction and I'm not trying as many things as I could be. Do you know this point? The bit were you get comfortable at getting to a certain point and don't try as hard to push it further? That's what I feel is happening. So to get over this problem I'm thinking to post something pushes me each day, for you to read. I hope you're up for a laugh some of the time, and send any suggestions that you have my way (that's improved your game as well)!

Besides that back to my weekend. I met a couple of girls that were into me but I didn't get many numbers. I met one girl who hooked immediately and we had a great conversation. This girl is really stunning, brown wavy hair that hovers just above a well fitted white t-shirt and brown eyes that could tame a grizzly bear. We spoke a lot about what we wanted to get out of life and the dreams we had. Here is what was said:

Me: Hey, I couldn't help but notice you walking and had to tell you that you are gorgeous, I'm Edd. (This opening is getting a bit old, time to change routine a bit)

Her: Thanks! I'm crissy.

Me: How's your day going?

Her: It's going really well! I just got into medical school! What do you do here?

Me: Congratulations! I'm a student. What made you want to get into medicine? (maybe instead of answering her question first I should answer it at the end?)

Her: I've always wanted to be a doctor. What do you study?

Me: Hey, let's move to the side so we aren't in people's way. I study maths. How long have you wanted to be a doctor for then?

Her: Okay, I've wanted to be a doctor since I was 2. I don't really have one of those "my father had a heart attack" stories.

Me: Wow, so your one of the only people who follows through with their dreams. There are so many people out there who don't know what they really want out of life and you're one of the few that is following through on that.

We talk for another 5 minutes before a friend grabs my attention, she's back from the phillipines and wants to have a conversation about how everything back here has been. I talk to her for a minute before getting back into the conversation with my girl, not really knowing if the conversation I just had with her has helped or hindered me. We get back to talking and start talking about travelling.

Me: What places would you like to explore? If there was any place you could go in the world, without having to worry about anything, were would it be?

Her: I would really love to visit eastern europe, I think it would be amasing to explore all the different culture it has to offer. How about you?

Me: I would love to travel to Asia and explore the stunning vistas that it has to offer, from what I've seen it has so much more to reveal.

We talk more about things we like, I ask to look at her bracelets she's wearing, and we get back to our conversation on travelling. The conversation dies down, I decide this is the worst time to get her number and leave so I try to find another topic to talk about before I grab her number. We talk for about another minute before I get her number and then about another half a minute before I get on with the other approaches I want to make. In hindsight I remember her saying that she was waiting for her bus, so I should have gone for an instant date right there and then, but I didn't (I also had terrible logistics but that doesn't matter for me right now).

I drop her a text later on in the day and she replies and then I set up the date with which I get. "I can't do this week as I'm seeing my boyfriend but I can do next Monday". I'm not sure if I'm being relegated to the friend zone but push on anyway and I'm meeting up with this girl next monday at a place much closer to were I live. Hopefully I can make something out of this. A few sidenotes on the interaction. I did tease her about shopping for all the expensive stuff in town (she was carrying a pandora bag and was wearing a bracelet) and the vibe was good but I didn't touch her that much. One problem I'm having in this area is that I'm not close enough to the girls. This was majorly highlighted by an approach I made today when even after I moved the girl we were standing a good 2 feet apart. The interaction with that girl was terrible and I moved on as quickly as I could without grabbing her number at which she says "thanks for not trying to get my number".

However something quite surprising happened on Saturday. I was asked by a close friend "chloe" to look after one of her friends "Cassie" that was visiting for a few days whilst she works. I say sure cause I might as well see how far I can get with this girl seeing as it is pretty much a date (Chloe had already attempted to set me up with Cassie a few times in the past which I rejected the idea). Things start out slowly, I have to walk for 30 minutes in an oncoming storm so I can meet Cassie cause she is lost. I get there soaked and start trying to get to know Cassie. The conversation is dull as watching paint dry on a stainless steel counter that is boiling hot. We try and relate to eachother as we have nothing to do for the next couple of hours. After about an hour in the bar I suggest going back so we can avoid the rain. She agrees and we start walking home. Now here is a weird thing about me, I find it much easier to talk walking than being still. Walking and talking for me is as easy as doing the 1 times table, not moving it's like trying to watch Man vs Food on an empty stomach and not drool at the food. The conversation gets better and we head home.

We get to Chloe's place and try to get in, but fail after 20 attempts on the front and back doors. We then head back to mine about a half minute walk. We go into my room and I wait a moment before trying to kiss her. Obviously this fails as she and I haven't really connected. Now this is the turning point for everything. Upto this point it hadn't been that much fun to hang around with her, it's obvious from first glances this is a shy girl but she has barely opened up. All I know about her is that she was in catering but didn't like it, went on to do a floristry course which she enjoys, her dad is moving overseas to Seattle and that she is a vegetarian. After I try and kiss her, we end up connecting on so many levels. I don't really care at this point about being a nice guy to her so I start teasing her and chase framing her. We start talking about life and our views and everything that defines us. This goes on for a few hours.

I put on some music and she doesn't like it so she tries to change it:

Her: I really don't like this music can we change it?

Me: Nah, I'm enjoying it so I'm happy.

She keeps asking to change it and I say no and in the end she steals my phone. Now I wouldn't mind this too much if I didn't have girls chase up on the internet, but I did. I start bear hugging her and reaching around her arms to wrestle it (playfully) away from her. This works and we then connect on music and when we get bored of that we start watching the inbetweeners (the original, the American version is like eating hypodermic needles). She starts placing her head on my chest and so on. Nothing happens because by this point I have found out that a- she is a virgin b- she is "comitted to a guy" and c- Chloe can get really feisty over the tiniest things so I don't bother.

I'm getting hungry so we go down and start cooking. I give her the pleasant job of cutting the onions for our pasta and continue to tease her and chase frame her. After we eat we watch the rest of the inbetweeners episode and she wants to sleep in my bed. Now I'm not willing to let a girl sleep in my bed without having sex with me so I say no. She is adamant she won't sleep with me so I go to kiss her cause I want to goto sleep and I figure this is the best way to get her to leave. Of course guess what happens, we start kissing and she doesn't leave. I have no idea what is going on I thought she didn't want me to do anything. She pulls back not sure about having kissing me cause of her "guy" and how she doesn't want to hurt his feelings. I can't remember what I did here and we end up making out again. I'm stunned with surprise cause I am not up to this point in my game and my mind goes blank on what to do next. We stop kissing after about 15 seconds and she then wants me to walk her home. I say no, her sleeping grounds are a 30 second walk from mine but she refuses and lies on my bed. She doesn't budge and is surprisingly strong for her size. So I have to carry her out of my room. She is still adamant about me walking her home, I refuse to bend to her frame and she bends to mine. She leaves with some words that have helped me feel like I am making some progress with this.

Her: I find it really easy to talk to you; you ask lots of questions but they are in such an easy way that I'm happy to answer them.

Me: That's cause I used to be really closed around my family when I was younger so if I wanted to talk to people I would have to talk to them about their lives. I enjoyed it and still do everyone has a unique story to share. (This is not me bullshitting her, I was and am still very closed to my family, but less so nowadays. Talking to my family is like having that shining light on your face in a police interrogation room.)

Her: Are you certain you won't walk me back.

Me: I'm sure you'll survive the 30 second walk.

Her: Okay. (she gives me a hug) If you're ever in "her city" text me or if I'm back here or in your hometown I'll let you know.

Me: Cool. Have a good rest of the night.

Now before the comments erupt, I am still very inexperienced and cannot tell the difference between what girls say and what they mean. I had a feeling she liked me and joked around with it but I was not completely certain. Besides I think I know have a booty call ;). I'm really tired now from writing this and want to feel ready to utterly embaress myself tomorrow so I can give you guys some new words to read.
 

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Today was a successful day for trying new things. I went out nervous at how the different openers would go down but by the time I went home I was pleased with how it went. I tried out "are you single" and a reverse compliment (where you tell the girl to give you a compliment instead) and it didn't go too badly despite my nerves at the start.

Okay I say too badly except that when I used the reverse compliment as my opener, do you want to guess what happened? Well, the girls couldn't think of anything to say, one girl just walked away.

I didn't get into any conversations with girls but at least my repertoire of openers is growing. Time to get into some conversations and build my repartee skills as well.
 

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Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted on here but you've not been forgotten. Since my last post I've approached a good nuber of girls and gone on 3 dates which I'll get to and summarise for you. As for me focusing on new things, I've found it quite difficult to change even simple things as I tend to forget as I am about to approach the girl. I think it might be a combination of trying to solve multiple problems at once instead of lasering in on one thing at a time. Besides that here is how my day of approaching has gone:

Woke up late and got ready so I could go straight out the door and start approaching, Ive had some really good approaches recently were girls have hooked immediately which is great. I meet one girl on the way past my university campus I open her she just says she's in a rush and walks on, I try and persist but she keeps walking and doesn't look back. A bit further down the road I meet a cool Taiwanesse girl who hooks immediately.

Me: Hey, I saw you walking and have to tell you that you're incredibly cute, I'm Edd.

Her: Hi, I'm Lynn, I'm Taiwanesse. (said fairly excitedly)

Me: That's cool, What's Taiwan like? (I thought I could skip repartée here seeing as she's hooked)

Her: Well this is winter for me, I've just got here a couple of days ago that's why I'm wearing a coat and jumper.

Me: Yeah, you look really hot in that.

Her: Yeah, I am getting quite hot but I've got a lot of stuff to carry.

Me: Why did you move here? Are you a student or looking for work? Let's talk over here so we aren't in people's way.

Her: Okay, I'm a student studying international communications. I'm just about to start my masters in September.

Me: Smart girl, Why did you choose to study international communications?

Her: (I can't remember what she said here but it was along the lines of she enjoyed the course)

We talk for a bit longer and I get her number, as she's typing it in I comment on all of her newly bought cooking utensils and suggest that she is going to cook for me later tonight, she laughs and says her and her flatmate are going to cook together as they both like the same food. I get my phone back and we part ways.

I open another girl, this one is seriously not interested, she barely replies when I talk to her and her body language is not easily mis-translated. Girl number 4 I talk to and the conversation goes as follows:

Me: Hi, I saw you walking and had to tell you that you're incredibly cute, I'm Edd.

Her: Oh thanks.

Me: What's your name?

Her: Chelsea.

Me: I see you're on a bit of a shopping spree, what do you do when you're not shopping?

Her: I'm at college studying music.

Me: That's great I love creative girls. What made you choose music? (I generally screen for creativity when I remember to qualify girls)

Her: I really enjoy it. (I get a bit stuck when girls reply like this as it makes it harder for me to find out why they did it, I've tried to get around this problem by saying that they can enjoy lots of things but they don't study that, but that doesn't work, just makes girls more agitated)

We talk a little more and I try to grab her number but she says she's meeting someone who she has a thing with. I persisted but she wasn't budging on her position. Thinking back I could have tried to say that she can still try other things whilst she isn't tied down, or something along those lines but I get too caught up in the moment, I've got to change that and re-direct my attention on trying new things. On the note of new things though I did give her piercing eye contact the majority of the time, but that probably helped the demise as I didn't look away enough. Onwards with the day.

The fifth girl that I met wasn't that interested either but gave me an excuse to leave I forgot to persist and went on with my day. Girl number 6 was a no go as well as was the next girl. The I meet girl number 8 who I had already approached that day. We have a brief conversation, I don't remember her whatsoever so she was either girl no. 5, 6 or 7. I then go home cause I've got a busy few weeks to prepare for as I'm away for a few days in Scotland.

Things I'm taking away from this day, and the past few days, are that I have to have a list of new things to try when I go out so I don't have the problem of forgetting in the moment. I also seriously have to re-think my fashion fundamentals as I am certain that they are letting the team down.

Here's a list of things that I'm planning to try so that my approaching gets better:

- Approach with a sexy smile.
- Qualify a girl before starting rapport.
- Lean in when talking with a girl.
- If in a conversation where the girl isn't contributing ask a question and if she stops the conversation put on a bored look so she re-engages.
- Open a girl by looking at her from the corner of my eyes.
- Get some information so teasing is easier.
- Be more of an asshole when I open.
- Make compliments specific

And so on...

Onto the dates that I had. I had one last Monday, another was last Wednesday and I had one yesterday. Here's a quick summary of the things I did.

Date no. 1:

I was able to get this girl to pay for drinks, we had agreed to meet at 8 at night in a bar that serves cheap shots. I was apprehensive at first thinking this could cause some problems (which it kind of did) but after about 15 minutes of talking I turned the subject onto sex. Sex became 90% of our conversation topic for the rest of the night and music filled up the rest. Deep diving was quite difficult with this girl as she was really protected in the bars that we went to but when we got back to her place she opened up a lot about herself. So we're in her room, doing some shots and I decide to kiss her and see if I can't open her up a little more ;). She turns her head away and then tells me that she's dating a guy. This isn't much of a shock to me as she didn't hold my hand during the date and didn't ever sit or try and get that close to me. The funny thing is is that this girl has a really high sex drive and she is dating an asexual guy. I couldn't stop laughing when she told me she would wear nothing but panties in front of him and he would only say "you look nice" and return to whatever he was doing. I tried to kiss her twice more but got nothing. In the end I just stayed and talked to her because we had a lot in common and she was a cool enough girl to be considered a friend, but I'm not looking for friends at the moment so I haven't got back in touch.

Date no. 2:

This was with a girl who was 6 years older than me, we had some fun witholding our ages from eachother as I was trying to be more mysterious which fortunately worked. This was one of the easier dates I've had but the girl cancelled on me the day we were meant to meet and rescheduled for the next day. I then said that she had to pay for the drinks which she tried to rebuff back onto me. In the end I win and she pays. I tease her and find out she likes to think that she is a princess. I keep acting like an asshole to her which she kept on remarking "you're so rude" whilst playfully slapping my arm. She then tries to kiss me but I stop her and tease her by whispering in her ear "nah ah, not yet" which riles her up even more, however we do end up kissing a 5 minutes later in the café. We leave and walk outside and sit on some benches, I turn things sexual and ask what she likes whilst telling her what I like. This goes on for a bit and I invite her home, she says she can't cause she has stuff to do at home and has to be on the next train. I persist more but she declines, I figure that I can try again later. We talk more sharing personal things about eachothers lives and I try to pull her again. I've gained a lot of compliance and can't figure out why she won't come home with me, maybe her reasons are sound but I'm not completely convinced. She says she has to get home but I convince her not to and she stays with me a little longer. We get another coffee this time I pay. We talk and after we have finished I try to pull her again, but it flops and I'm not getting anywhere. I then say I've got to go and she says "text me" I say "if you text me when you're off the train" she asks why and I give a shit reason that I want to make sure she is alright. The next day I send her a text (which when I read it back was utterly boring) and she never replied, I tried 2 days later nothing.

Date no. 3:

Things with this girl started off slow but got really heated. She offered to pay for my coffee, we sit down and find out a bit more about each other and what are plans for life are. I complimented her a lot throughout the entire date which looking back was shooting myself in the foot. We get onto some sexual topics and I invite her to watch a movie back at my place. She's a bit uneasy with this but says yes. I want to make sure she is happy with that decision but she isn't which is cool I don't want to force her to do anything she doesn't want to do. We talk more and I suggest that we try some roleplay on our date were we pretend we're dating. It's a bit of fun and worked quite well. I suggest we go and look at a great skyline view and she agrees. We get up there and start making out, I slide my hand down her jeans and panties but her hand stops me from getting to far. All the time I'm getting quite dominant with her and she's enjoying herself but still won't come home with me. Things cool down and we leave and talk a little more and then we go our seperate ways. We said that we would meet this Sunday and cook dinner together and that I would text her today but I haven't heard back from her. By the end of the date she was starting to look bored. I know she had a good time most of the time but I think the date went on for way to long.

Things to work on on dates:
- Don't make dates too long; an hour and a half tops.
- Don't show too much value.
- Don't kiss until the girl is, at least, outside my door.

The big things I want to work on are my fashion and trying new things. As for the "Are you single?" opener, I've tried it (about 20 approaches) but never got anything out of it. I tweaked it a little here and there but it wasn't working. Thats been my past couple of weeks, hope yours were just as good ;).
 
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