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Grand Pooba

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While I’m having pretty tough luck lately with local girls, I’m doing great with traveling women. It’s not a bad deal anyway, it ironically means I get to work on my game more even though ultimately I want girlfriend quality women in relationships (and the girls I’m approaching are definitely of this caliber, no question).

Friday evening last week was another example of this phenomenon. I took a roughly two week break from game and approaching since my last encounter here <link> because I was going to be traveling for a week to Europe anyways, and was starting to feel some burn out. In the process of this break I learned that breaks are bad ideas – it takes quite some time and effort to get back into the swing of things after a break. A lot of men struggle with getting back into dating after a break for instance – but for women it’s easy. On Tuesday I started to approach again and felt extreme anxiety – and every approach went horrible from Tuesday until Thursday when finally things started to get better.

Which brings me to Friday. At 5pm I stopped working and decided to hit the streets – dressed in my sexy tan/black blazer and a dark purple shirt, with jeans and black sneakers. Had never tried this look before but it worked great – the first women I approached stopped immediately and gave me the time of day, but had a live in boyfriend. The second woman I approached was hot as fuck but was apparently on her way to see her boyfriend. Then I wandered for five minutes before making my third approach – a white washed half Asian half white girl (I think) who was on her way to meet a friend for dinner and to watch a movie. I caught her while waiting for the light to change and we instantly hooked into a conversation, and then walked a block to her subway stop.

While the approach went really well with her, it could have and should have actually been a little longer – she seemed to be in a rush and ejected too quickly after I got her number. Though I felt like the vibe with her was really good, I maybe overestimated this.

Anyway right after breaking off with her a block later at the subway station, I walked back from the way I came and just happened to pass a very cute Asian girl sitting all by herself on one of the built in tile benches on this street – a prominent building right in the heart of NYC’s main business/financial district. She looked up at me and looked nervous right as I walked past and smiled at her, then went back to looking at her phone. New opportunity!

So I turned right back around, and went to go make an approach. I wasn’t really sure how… so I just sat down on the tile bench about three feet away from her and started looking at my phone. She was looking the other way at this time. She had very beautiful short and straight hair dyed brown – and this would be my opener.

ME: Hey! I just have to tell you, you have the most beautiful hair I’ve seen literally all day <She turns and looks my way, surprised.>
HER: Oh, thank you!” <she was very shy, and her accent was strong and broken>
ME: <smiling> How’s your day so far – enjoying your Friday evening?
HER: I am sorry – I do not speak very good English.

Oh man! Another one of these! Ironically I’ve been doing better and better with these types, so I figured I’d just keep pushing ahead hear. Without getting into the nitty gritty of our conversation, I learned very quickly that she’s actually traveling in town from Japan on both vacation as well as some business, and that it was literally her first day in the city, and she happened to be in the area because she likes the American show Suits, of which the building right behind us is featured prominently.

This of course started a conversation about where she’s from, and I learned she lives in Osaka, Japan, and is in town until this Wednesday. I started to ask her about what she thinks of New York compared to Japan, and then started asking about what sights she was going to see from the show. She pulled out her phone and started to show me – and then I slid over to get right next to hear, about 6” away instead of 3 feet away.

We kept on talking next about other places she had traveled to – and I learned that she actually travels for work quite a bit, and has been all over Europe as well as to different places in Asia, but this is her first time in NYC.

After talking to her the best I could for like ten minutes or so, I asked what she was doing this evening – and it sounded like she was doing nothing. So I started to tell her about a rooftop lounge I knew of nearby – and pulled it up on google maps on my phone, and showed it to her as well as pictures of it. Luckily I’m very familiar with a lot of rooftops throughout NYC and this one just happened to be two blocks away – so after she agreed to head over there with me, we both got up and walked that way.


Venue Bounce #1

The walk over involved some incidental touch and I kept asking her about how NYC compares to other cities, and also shared some stories of my own travels. She was walking very close to me and following my lead, so at times I touched her on her back and led the way for those two blocks. The most important thing here was just to keep the conversation and vibe going like normal.

The rooftop lounge I picked is in a hotel and has a huge fish tank in the lobby before taking the elevator up. I led her to the fish tank and we spent some time gazing at the fish, which she found fascinating. We even found Nemo in there, which we chased and followed around the fish tank for a while. This was cool because it allowed me to get very physically close to her, and we walked around the fish tank and also laughed about the fish constantly swimming around in circles.

Finally went up to the rooftop and found out that the office crowd was just getting out, so all the tables were reserved and there was nowhere to sit. No biggie though – we picked up the cocktail menu and I found out that she really likes both Vermouth and Gin, and started to explore drinks that had this combination. I had the waitress there put my name for the next seated table anyway, so we could find a seat when something would open up sometime later in the evening – which took about 45 minutes in the end, lol. Luckily instead I decided to just have us sit at a random couch that was reserved later for a private event – we hung out there and the staff didn’t kick us out. We tasted each other’s drinks.

While sitting down I bonded over her travels and what she does back in Japan, and we showed each other pictures of our trips. I learned she had actually lived in Boston for 6 months earlier in her life to study English.

Sometime here she asked me where I lived, and I told her I live in Manhattan on the other side of town. She also asked me how old I was, and when she guessed it I actually lied and said I’m 35, just to make sure I don’t break social frame. It doesn’t matter anyway – if you go through the seduction and give her a good time and come through honestly later on, she’s really not going to care that you lied about something so insignificant.

I can’t remember the details of our conversations anymore, but I do know we were sitting next to each other very close, and at some point I just put my arm around her and pulled her in and held it like that, and there was no resistance. We just kept on talking, and thus there was a lot of incidental touch the whole time.

Eventually the waitress came and told us a real seat and table opened up – so she moved us to this back area that was more loungey and had fewer people, but it was very tight as a seat with another couple sitting immediately adjacent to us. Instead of us sitting across from each other with one person on a stool, we shared the couch and that made us even closer. Now I had full incidental body contact and could easily hold her with my arm entirely around her. This girl was tiny – probably 4’11” and super skinny.

They brought us some random appetizer nuts along with the service. While chatting her up some more I started feeding her the nuts as I kept on talking.


Venue Bounce #2 and Pull

After just ten minutes of sitting in the new location at the first drinks venue, I started talking to her about another rooftop across town that actually does have a good view of the city (this one was in the middle of building and just so-so, and I suggested that we go there and have another drink. Luckily the bill was already paid for – she agreed with me immediately. At this point I was also sitting very close to her and had my arm around her upper shoulder, so we felt very comfortable together and she was following my lead.

Got up and she went to the bathroom as I waited outside, and then we went down the elevator and caught a cab at the corner. In the cab we were going across town, but would pass within a block of my house roughly 2/3’s of the way there. This ended up being super critical.

This was literally her first cab ride ever, so as we passed through midtown I started to point out random points of interest like Grand Central out the window. She ended up sitting right in the middle seat next to me with the side of her legs touching up against mine. It was a pretty uneventful ride until halfway where she basically gave me her back and I started lightly rubbing and massaging it, and touching all over her back and side of her body. I could feel her start to get aroused, and she got super quiet, smiled and laughed lightly, and got even more physically close to me.

Then came this question:
HER: Where are we going right now?
ME: Oh, I’m taking you to the rooftop that I told you about…
HER: Oh, we’re going to another rooftop? Hmm… okay.

Then she got kind of quiet and the conversation stopped. It’s almost as if she was slightly disappointed.

This was a big clue – a lot of dots connected in my head in that split second and I realized that maybe she just wants to be pulled. Lucky for me, the cab was now waiting at a red light literally a block and a half away from my house – 2/3’s of the way between the first rooftop and the second rooftop.

So I blurted out – quickly:
ME: Actually, do you like art? Want to come look at my art before we go to the rooftop?
HER: Yes, I’d love to.
ME: Ok, cool – let’s get off here then.
So I just told the driver “Hey, actually just let us off here – we’re getting off.” I had already paid the tab with an app, so we just got off and I grabbed her hand immediately as she got out. We held hands immediately as we waited for traffic to pass and for us to cross to the other side of the street. I was so lucky in that it was only a 5 minute walk to my place from where we were let off. On the walk over she walked very close to me, held my hand tightly, and I just randomly kept commenting on all the different restaurants in the neighborhood and on that street.

There was no comment when we walked into my building – I just kept the conversation going and I actually didn’t kiss her this time. It wasn’t fully “on” yet, I could see that she was very nervous, so instead of pushing her against the elevator wall like I sometimes do, I just held her and talked – and told her my place is mess because I was coming back from a trip.


Minor LMR turns to Nymphomania

We walked inside and I had her take off her shoes. My place was a disaster with suitcases and clothes everywhere, and I spent a few minutes early just cleaning some stuff off my couch. She looked out my window and inquired about the rooftop, and I told her that we can go have drinks up there later on. Then I had her come to my kitchen and poured us a glass of red wine.

Walked to my couch and sat down next to her with the wine, my arm around her. Kept on chatting about something, but the vibe was quieter, so after five minutes I just took the wine glass from her hand and put mine down too, and went to try and make out with her. She resisted, pulling her head back and smiling. I held my ground, and didn’t force it on her – I just lightly brushed her forehead with my own, and still held her tightly, and looked into my eyes. Did kind of an eskimo kiss.

Then I pulled away – and conversed for another minute, and then made another move.

Same thing happened. She said something very very shyly like:
HER: Um…..we just met.
ME: I’m having a really, really great time with you tonight, and I’m so glad that we met.

This always happens to me, girls are super nervous and afraid I’m just going to pump and dump them, so I have to reiterate to them often that it’s not the case.

I handed her wine glass back to her and got mine as well, and we started to drink again a little. I started to tell her about this live music spot that has great jazz nearby, and that we should go to it later. Again, I reiterated to her that I’m having an awesome time with her, and it’s been a fantastic night so far.

After another three minutes, I grabbed her wine glass again and put mine down, and then made a move another time. I could tell she was really horny and really wanted it, and finally after holding my face and lips in front of hers for maybe 1-2 minutes, just holding it there silently, she finally came up to me and kissed me – first very softly, then it got super intense and passionate within minutes.

About five minutes later I picked her up and threw her on the bed, and our clothes just flew off. She was absolutely soaking wet and I just went in raw and fucked her silly for like 30-40 minutes in all sorts of positions. Really great sex with this tiny girl – she had a huge sex drive and was just cumming over and over and over again, especially when I went super hard.

Meet to sex time was somewhere between 90 and 120 minutes.

After the first round I took her on the roof and we finished our wine there. Ended up coming back down and doing round 2 – then at 9:50pm we went out in my neighborhood and went to two different jazz bars that evening, before I pulled her home again and we had another round of wild crazy sex. Several times in the middle of the night.

In the end we had sex 7 times that first evening between when I met her and when I let her go do her own thing – at 3:30pm Saturday! This girl and I have perfect chemistry, and I’ve probably given her between 150-200 orgasms in the first night alone. Since she’s was town until Wednesday this week I ended up taking advantage of the situation and treating her like a temporary girlfriend until she left back for Japan on Wednesday morning.

We ended up spending every single night of her whole trip together – and there was PLENTY of wild passionate sex in that time. It was so much that she was actually hurting from soreness at times, and we just had to stop and leave to go do other things. She bought me tickets to go see a Broadway show with her, and we went out to check out a lot of different sights in the city.

The sex with her was incredible, and multiple times every night after giving her a series of orgasms she’d just spend the night kissing my body to sleep, and then mounting me in the middle of the night too. On the final night I fucked her so hard that she literally could not walk for 15 minutes because she was so spent from her orgasms.

Girl also told me multiple times things like "I'm so glad I met you," and "I was so happy to be with you."

There was a time when I thought that with language barriers seduction can’t happen – but actually, it can. While it’s harder, it just requires a different system – less verbal based, and more based on leading, vibe, physicality, and making the right decisions.
 
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Científico

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Great work, very impressive as always.

While I’m having pretty tough luck lately with local girls, I’m doing great with traveling women

Is this a typical pattern for you? I've read elsewhere on this board that it is much easier to get fast sex from women who are travelling, or when you are the traveler in a new city.

She also asked me how old I was, and when she guessed it I actually lied and said I’m 35, just to make sure I don’t break social frame. It doesn’t matter anyway – if you go through the seduction and give her a good time and come through honestly later on, she’s really not going to care that you lied about something so insignificant.

Can you explain a little more please? Did you overestimate or underestimate your age? What social frame were you trying not to break?

Then she got kind of quiet and the conversation stopped. It’s almost as if she was slightly disappointed.

This was a big clue – a lot of dots connected in my head in that split second and I realized that maybe she just wants to be pulled. Lucky for me, the cab was now waiting at a red light literally a block and a half away from my house – 2/3’s of the way between the first rooftop and the second rooftop.

Great work here especially. You have incredibly good logistics with so many good venues within minutes of your place in NYC, one of the best places for daygame, certainly in North America.

Really, keep up the incredible work. I always enjoy reading these LR's from you.
 

Grand Pooba

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Científico said:
Great work, very impressive as always.

Thank you!

Científico said:
While I’m having pretty tough luck lately with local girls, I’m doing great with traveling women

Is this a typical pattern for you? I've read elsewhere on this board that it is much easier to get fast sex from women who are travelling, or when you are the traveler in a new city.

The issue here is not so much whether or not you're traveling or a woman is traveling, but whether or not she sees you as a potential provider or as only a lover.

Basically if you're traveling in a new city and meeting local women, or she's traveling and meeting you in your home city, she doesn't have a notion of any future with you - at least BEFORE sex! (This may change after sex however - the girl from this LR really misses me and is still messaging me like crazy, which I'm fine with, I hope I get to see her again in the near future).

If a girl sees you as a provider or a potential provider - which applies if you're a high value man residing in the same city as her - she's going to put the brakes on fast sex, UNLESS you disqualify yourself as a boyfriend. Currently in my game I haven't found a successful way to disqualify myself yet, although I am experimenting with some ideas at the moment and will keep posted on my progress.

If a girl does not see you as a provider but only as a lover, there's nothing stopping her from fast sex with you provided you maintain a sexy frame and lead her into it in a discreet and calibrated way.

Científico said:
She also asked me how old I was, and when she guessed it I actually lied and said I’m 35, just to make sure I don’t break social frame. It doesn’t matter anyway – if you go through the seduction and give her a good time and come through honestly later on, she’s really not going to care that you lied about something so insignificant.

Can you explain a little more please? Did you overestimate or underestimate your age? What social frame were you trying not to break?

I had a feeling she might be around the same age as me or just a tad older - I'm actually 32 and I said 35. Later in our time together I learned that she's actually 33.

Does this matter? It can, only in the context of social frame - it's socially acceptable for a woman to see a guy older than her, and less socially acceptable for a woman to sleep with a man younger than her. For me I'd rather just work within this context to sleep with her first, and then I can reveal the truth if she asks again.

The long and short of it for both of your questions actually is: there's a game BEFORE sex, and then there's a game AFTER sex.

Científico said:
Great work here especially. You have incredibly good logistics with so many good venues within minutes of your place in NYC, one of the best places for daygame, certainly in North America.

Yeah, I picked a great area to live in within the city. Logistics are key. A lot of my game right now is meeting women in other parts of the city (this LR included) and then I bounce them to something more local to me, like I did here. Except in this example, we never made it to the second venue, lol...
 

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Great job man! So much to learn from your LRs!

Grand Pooba said:
This always happens to me, girls are super nervous and afraid I’m just going to pump and dump them, so I have to reiterate to them often that it’s not the case.

I handed her wine glass back to her and got mine as well, and we started to drink again a little. I started to tell her about this live music spot that has great jazz nearby, and that we should go to it later. Again, I reiterated to her that I’m having an awesome time with her, and it’s been a fantastic night so far.
Reading this has me thinking some recent girls I’ve been with have been worried about being pumped and dumped too. Do you think that’s related to attainability? Or is it because of something else, perhaps not building quite enough comfort/trust?

Grand Pooba said:
About five minutes later I picked her up and threw her on the bed, and our clothes just flew off. She was absolutely soaking wet and I just went in raw and fucked her silly for like 30-40 minutes in all sorts of positions. Really great sex with this tiny girl – she had a huge sex drive and was just cumming over and over and over again, especially when I went super hard.
Have you always been able to last that long during sex?! So impressive dude! I routinely struggle to last more than a couple minutes during the first round of sex, especially if I don’t consciously slow myself down, which I think sometimes leaves the girl frustrated.
 

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onespiritualpitcher said:
Grand Pooba wrote:
This always happens to me, girls are super nervous and afraid I’m just going to pump and dump them, so I have to reiterate to them often that it’s not the case.

I handed her wine glass back to her and got mine as well, and we started to drink again a little. I started to tell her about this live music spot that has great jazz nearby, and that we should go to it later. Again, I reiterated to her that I’m having an awesome time with her, and it’s been a fantastic night so far.


Reading this has me thinking some recent girls I’ve been with have been worried about being pumped and dumped too. Do you think that’s related to attainability? Or is it because of something else, perhaps not building quite enough comfort/trust?

Girls are afraid that the guy is a player - especially when he's led her so quickly through the courtship and dating process - and she's worried that he only wants sex from her and doesn't actually like her. A girl's biggest fear before sex is that she likes him, but he only wants sex with her, and therefore after she gives it to him he'll never want to see her again after that.

From her perspective it means she just added a notch to her count and didn't get anything in return. Women do not value sex the same way that men do, just like men do not value relationships and providers in quite the same way that women do.

onespiritualpitcher said:
Grand Pooba wrote:
About five minutes later I picked her up and threw her on the bed, and our clothes just flew off. She was absolutely soaking wet and I just went in raw and fucked her silly for like 30-40 minutes in all sorts of positions. Really great sex with this tiny girl – she had a huge sex drive and was just cumming over and over and over again, especially when I went super hard.


Have you always been able to last that long during sex?! So impressive dude! I routinely struggle to last more than a couple minutes during the first round of sex, especially if I don’t consciously slow myself down, which I think sometimes leaves the girl frustrated.

Rally just depends on the girl and it depends on when the last time I had sex was as well. Sometimes I'll come really quickly in the first round and last a while in the other rounds. Other times I'll consciously slow myself down as well. Some girls don't like sex for a long time, others do. There's no right answer here - personally I prefer girls that like lots of sex and want it for a long time, and can handle that. A lot of girls are insatiable when it comes to sex, but a good amount also just aren't like that and get tired or sore. Seems like typically the more orgasmic a woman is, the more she wants more and longer sex.
 

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That makes sense. Thanks for the extra explanations!
 
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