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strugglin getting my life back on track long after bad breakup

LFE00

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Hey guys!

I don't really know what I hope to gain from this post. But getting my thoughts out might be good for something and help to organise them. If anyone has any comments or insights or advice or supporting words, I would of course highly appreciate it! Even if it to just "snap out of it". :) I cannot really talk to anyone about it in person. And being alone with my thoughts sucks.

Right now my main problem is that I haven't been able to get my ex out from my mind. I managed to do that but then something goes wrong in my plans and it reminds me how my life sucks compared to back then and she comes back to haunt me. I cannot imagine this still affects my life so long time after and that makes me more depressed.

I’m in my early 30s and broke up with my ex almost 1,5 years ago. She is in her mid 20s and we were together for 2 years. When I met her I was instantly attracted to her. She was exactly my cup of tea in the looks area and I later found out she was even much more in everything else. I didn’t know anything how attraction exactly works back then but looking back to it, I subconsciously did everything right. I also used to be quite confident. After a few weeks she was head over heels in love with me. I was just out from another relationship that wasn't working for me (even though she was a great girl too) and so I was also doubting things a bit, making her chase more and more so it all clicked. After a few months she asked me to come to live with her. It evolved into a deep and intense relationship. We both hadn’t felt such a connection before. I became close to her family and the whole package. I didn't imagine I could be so happy. And so was she.

But as I now have learned things sometimes go, things got rocky when we hit the 2 year mark. She showed so much love towards me all the time, that i got complacent and didn't court her as much as I used to. The honeymoon period started to fade. I was busy and stressed at work and got grumpy. She on the other hand had a lot of time on her hands and also stressed out in another way – about not being busy enough and not having her professional life figured out. I could now list a ton of things that went wrong just in the quite short period of time. So many stupid things from my part and some from her. Anyway the whole great relationship disintegrated within a short period of time. At first she was just mad at me. But then I became a needy emotional tampon and suddenly the sexual polarity entirely changed. I've always been the strong one and the leader in our relationship (or any relationship I had in the past) and she had been totally in her feminine the whole time. But then after this fight I tried to fix it, when she wanted space. That of course made it worse. And I also got to know she had started to fancy our mutual friend. A dude we both knew. I later found out he actually tried to hook up with her right before I did. But she chose me. He kept orbiting her the entire two years. I actually encouraged them to hang out and encouraged to get help from this dude, when I encouraged her to pursue her new interest in what this guy was pretty good at. So I felt extra betrayed and stupid. But instead of being offended and to turn away it somehow made me weak. Very weak. My emotions were all over the place. I couldn't believe this is happening. So I continued to do more and more things wrong and got dumped and she chose him.

Then in the after match of the breakup, she pulled me back 3-4 times in the course of 3-4 months. She was still attached to me. But she never let go of the other dude. And I didn't have my act together.
After a while I started to have something casual with other girls, that's especially when she got in touch. But I wasn't strong enough, was still needy, gave in too easily and so a year ago she chose the other dude for good. So I guess I could have maybe got her back when I had been stronger, having my act together and being less of an emotional wimp. I of course understand her ways more now after I have studied a lot of materials about women psychology. She was a textbook chick when to look back to it. Unfortunately in the tail end of our relationship and in the months following the breakup, I mostly acted out of emotions or followed advice that is dead wrong or I just couldn’t read the right stuff out if it with my mindset back then. I did one or two things right here and there, but was not consistent and fell back into the trap of neediness. When I read some of the stuff I wrote down during that time, I feel pretty damn embarrassed.

The cut was deep and I was very hurt. I'm still a mess, even after 1,5 years later.

It took me a long time to figure out why I was dumped and replaced. She gave me all sorts of hints and reasons, so I started to resent many those things in my life like my career and choices in life. But in the end I figured she used to love those things before. So in the real end I figured the number one reason for being dumped was me becoming weak and emotional. And she tried me out many times after the breakup, checking if I'm over this and became strong again. I was for a tiny bit but after small rejection or doubt from her, became emotional again. So she must have thought she is done with me for good.

I'm disappointed and angry at myself not so much for being dumped in the first place. As that forced me to learn many things about myself and about life and relationships.
But I'm angry for not getting my act together later those months.

Where am I know? I haven't talked to her for a long time. She is still with the other dude. That thing seem to have worked out for them. We share the same social circle somewhat, so I still hear about them, even if I try not to. It seems they're doing great. For me she doesn't seem the same person any more. She has changed her looks even.

About myself. I have dated a few girls. One case got messed up because of my ex pulled me back. In two cases I became needy. Then I've got some random hookups. I have got laid with more different girls during this year than I have had in the whole life before her. So in that sense it hasn't been that bad. Hehe. But it hasn't been mostly with the girls I would really really want. So it has made me more depressed. That certainly hasn’t made me happy. I haven’t found a connection I dig. I’m usually more depressed after a random hookup, so I have stopped them for now. I often feel lonely even though I have people around me. Social anxiety that I used to have a bit in the past has emerged again.

Last winter I got some momentum going. I got in a pretty good shape. I had a big work project going that kept me focused. I had one gorgeous girl interested in me that made me feel good. She didn't live in my country at the time. When she moved back, I managed to quickly fuck this up after a few dates. So that was that. She wasn't my dream girl anyway it appeared, so no biggie. But still another blow. She was a model and my type in look department. But maybe a bit too immature.

I rarely really like a girl. I have a really specific things in looks that I dig. And for relationship, I have even more standards of course. I know I shouldn't and cannot settle.
But I'm no spring chicken any more and getting older day by day, so I really want my act together sooner rather than later. I also mostly like girls in the age of 23-27. So quite a few years younger than me.

So after the big project ended and the summer was over as well, I've fallen into depression again. Fallen out of shape again. I have a chronic health problem that means I’m in pain almost all the time when doing certain movements. So getting into shape again is a struggle.

People think I’m successful as I have built several awesome businesses but they don’t make me any money at the moment, so I’m broke and barely having money for basic expenses. I would like to do more self improvement but most of the time I'm too broke for it. That makes me more depressed. I guess I could also be bit better wih managing the expenses of course.

Because of my depression, I was unreliable and not very productive and also often snappy or angry, so I've got into bad terms in one of my main business partner. So that left me out from my main business that I've built for many years. He was to blame as well though, as often times he treated me pretty badly. But I'm the one who is out now. It feels as another rejection. And makes me in square one in my 30s a bit clueless win what direction to go in my professional life.

I’m still good looking (or so they tell me) and I don’t want to waste my years away.
I’m not great with meeting new women out of the blue. I think I've never cold approached anyone.
I'm self conscious and insecure. When I meet someone I am interested in, then I’m often shy to make anything happen as I have all this shit going on in my life (or in my head) and I just don’t feel good. So it’s hard to radiate the good energy out of me. I know that I’m totally capable of it deep down. Because when in the rare cases I’m able to do it, then I have people hitting me up left or right.

I'm not interested to have a different hook-up every day or weeknight. I'm interested in finding a partner in crime, a person I would click with. A person I would love and love me back. Sorry for he beta talk :) I know that in order to make that happen I have to get everything else in order. I seemed to go in that direction but now everything has backfired and I seem to move further and further from that state or mind or conditions...

It's not every day I feel like this but lately it's most of the time.

This is not how I imagined my life to be in my 30s. I’m strugglin almost in every area in my life right now. Mindsets, love life (or the lack of it:), anxiety, depression or mood swings, money, carrier...

I have read quite a lot of materials and it's been eye opening. And also overwhelming. I certainly like this site and also the stuff Corey Wayne puts out and tons of other. Mark Manson for instance. Some Blackdragon and Reddit Red Pill stuff too although some of it makes me even more depressed, haha. So I've learned quite a lot of knowledge.
But the action part from me has been inconsistent. Have had a few successes but more backfires. Also, dealing with all this shit has taken a lot of energy. Something I didn't have so much to begin with during these times. So my professional life is a mess cause of it.
 

ray_zorse

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Ah dude well you had a good vent, it actually sounds like you are pretty on top of things in your mind, even though you think you are not. It was an interesting story though, and I read to the end even though the answer is what you already know it is: fuck more women and forget that bitch. If it helps though, I think you are somewhat overlooking the fact that she dicked you around quite a bit, basically all but cheated on you, and then continued to use your value on and off while fucking with your emotions (it is not clear whether she was booty calling you or holding out promise of further r/ship or both, but it's not nice in any case given she was in a position of power by that stage). You are unfortunately looking at the past through golden spectacles, saying she was/is such a high value girl and you were so confident and suave before this thing knocked the wind out of your sails and turned you all depressed and beta, etc... well I do not believe it, we tend to get the things we ask for, and I do not think you changed all that much, the tendency to obsess over it and think negative thoughts was probably already there in latent form. My diagnosis (as a recovering codependent and a dude who has been through similar scenarios), is that a fair bit of your ego/self-worth was tied up in this relationship and that this is why you are experiencing problems, your ego feels diminished partly because you had an inflated view of her value (actually she sounds like a bitch to me and I wouldn't go near her) and felt like your value depended on possessing her. I recommend reading Eckhart Tolle "The Power of Now" or "A New Earth" on ego and relationships, plus any good resource on co-dependent relationships. So the solution is basically to have more abundance of women, but also to be more at peace with yourself and outcome-independent, so you know that if you do not currently have a girlfriend (or fuckbuddies although you say you do not want this) then it's because you cannot control girls' behaviour, you can only know whether you are taking the necessary steps and being/becoming the best man you can possibly be. So if you're happy with YOUR behaviour that is all you need, and the only thing that reflects on your value.
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Drck

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Good points Ray. Also, reading through many posts here, I couldn't miss quite interesting pattern:

* If I did this or that, she would text me back
* If I did this or that, she would go out for date
* If I did this or that, she would sleep with me, date me
* If I did this or that, we would still be together
....but I didn't do it and that's why she is gone, so logically it is my fault that it didn't work out, I'm the one to blame... I should have done much better, it is all my fault...

What about her? She is also part of the equation, she is the other 50% that we have to consider.... So let's look at your relationship:


* You were busy, stressing out at work, building career, creating many successful businesses, making money for future family.... But what about her? What did she bring to the table? Oh, I see, she was also stressed... She was stressed about not being able to figure out her career... She was stressed about "not being busy enough"....Huh?? What kind of stress is that again, sitting home and not doing anything? Well, we don't really need tons of other reasons because we already have one, and pretty good one - you were investing heavily into your future - yet she did nothing...

* So now you are stressed because of hard work. What about her? Is she supporting her partner emotionally when he needs it the most, to make sure that both of you will have a good future, good family? Is she comforting you enough when you get back home? Nope. In contrary, she is getting mad at you... She is creating negativity so when you come home (to YOUR place that you pay for, that is) from stressful job into misery that she created... Just more fights, more stress, more madness...

* Ok, no problem, things in relationship happen and they can be fixed. So you are trying to fix it. How about her, is she also trying to fix things? Nope. All she wants is more space, more distance for you... Again, you are working on relationship, you are trying to figure out what to do to make it better, you are investing even more of your time and effort into her - yet she does nothing...

* Actually, she was doing something. She was dating another guy while you were at work, she was dating your mutual friend - while making life miserable for you... See, you were supposed to come home from work and make her happy because she was so bored all day... You couldn't do it - so her response was to date another guy... Hm...

* "Then in the after match of the breakup, she pulled me back 3-4 times in the course of 3-4 months. She was still attached to me. But she never let go of the other dude"
>>>> No she didn't and she wasn't attached. Read what you wrote again, and then one more time....
She could care less about you because she stayed with the other guy. She just feels sorry for you because she put all guilt on you, she made it seem that everything that happened between you was your fault. She is not guity to sit home and date another guy - you are the guilty one for working so hard... Read it again and again, you were working hard, stressing out - and she was home, bored, dating another guy...

* "She gave me all sorts of hints and reasons, so I started to resent many those things in my life like my career and choices in life. But in the end I figured she used to love those things before"
>>>> So again, you loved your carrer and choices you made in your life, exactly the way you suppose to - and instead of her joining you in your life and supporting you emotionally and otherwise, she made you resent those things as if those things as if it were something wrong for your relationship... Hm...

* What now? Now, even today, you keep thinking about her... You keep investing more and more of your time and effort into her, thinking that you could have dome more to keep her... Your self esteem is shot, you are depressed because you lost in such a 'great' relationship... And what about her? She's having a fun with another guy from your circle, she is fucking one of your friends...

... See how much you did for the relationship versus how much she did? You invested 80% into the relationship, and she hardly invested 20%. You put her on pedestal, she is gone - and now you are paying heavy price...

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This is a great story to learn from though, it shows us that women are way ahead of us, they can play with our emotions as they wish while we are cluless... You are investing, you are thinking great future - and she does nothing.... You are stressed out, you work hard - and you are trying to justify her behavior, saying she is stressing about too much of free time... Not only that, she is dating another dude while you were working... Seriously, do you think that any girl that respect you, loves you and wants to be with you would do it? I don't think so...

And if that wasn't enough, she make it seem that all of this was YOUR problem, and not her problem. She cleverly placed all the guilt upon you, and you... you can't still get over her for months and years - while she is happily fucking another guy, your friend...

Let me tell you something bro, she is like a fucking vampire to you. She sucked all the life out of you, she made you broke and miserable, your self-esteem is shot, you no longer enjoy what you loved, she dumped you, and she is fucking a guy from your social circle while making it seem that she was still into you - and you still thinking about how great would it be if she gave you second chance to be with her...

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We need to learn to be more independent. We need to learn that females will not bring us happiness. We need to learn that females are just silly/cute/sexy/fun/exciting - but not to be taken too seriously... We need to learn that women need to be investing into us, more than we invest into them... We need to learn that we can't put women on pedestal and keep them there.... We need to stop making excuses for females, and stop justifying their behavior... We need to learn that not everything is in our power, that sometimes people simply grow apart regardless how hard both of them try. Or not... Otherwise we will always suffer, and always pay heavy price...
 

Lotus

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There's lots of good advice already here, and I have to agree that your reflection shows you are closer to making things work then you believe.

Also, you said you sort of share the same social circle with her? If possible you need to get away from it. Getting over her is 1000x harder because you continually hear about her. Got to get away from that so you can focus on you and not her.

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