Hey guys!
This community seems really supportive and you help each other grow a lot so I wanted to join. You guys have given such great advice and I hope to get some guidance and eventually help others achieve success with women too.
Intro:
I'm a fashion stylist (mostly women) living in Orlando and am moving to Brooklyn in a week and a half. I just graduated college, and during that time I've dropped 100 lbs. I'm still a little big at 200 lbs at 5'6" but have been weight training for four months straight and I'm continuously looking better. So far I have had no problem attracting good looking girls (that is until I open my mouth -.-). Girls are usually attracted to my silent confidence and I can get them pursuing me at first then our convos either go stale or I knock it out of the park and miss an escalation window. I've also become one of the more successful people in my network of friends and am seen as a leader, which also helps with attracting girls in my social circle. Most of my success with girls is sporadic but I'll explain in the next part.
My experience with women:
I've hooked up (from what I can remember) with one girl about seven years ago. It was freshman year and a girl from my high school came to visit with a few of her friends. We hung out with a bunch of our mutual friends and all night my closest friend was talking about getting me laid. I didn't think much of it and we all got drunk. We bullshitted all night and I talked for a while to the girl about college life, high school etc. As the party wound down, she started talking about dorms and mentioned she hadn't seen mine yet. So after doing somersaults in my head, I said "um ok, lets go see it" and drove us down the road to my place (I was an amazing drunk driver but realize now it was pretty stupid). When we got back we had a few more drinks and started making out on the sofa. Soon after I blacked out, and have a few flash backs of us having sex on my bed, the only real confirmation being the used condom on the floor and our naked bodies in the morning. I then drove her back to her friends in one of the most awkward car rides of my life and we never saw each other again.
After that I went back to my awkward self until I got into pick up artist stuff and tried it out (Thanks Chase!). Since then I've had random good opportunities. One girl even invited me to "study" at her place, but when I got to her place I didn't notice her leading me to her room, so I sat down at the kitchen table and actually studied. Yea, still punching myself for that one. The best streak I've had was when I was pledging my business fraternity a few years ago which made me really active around campus. I started giving no fucks so anytime I saw a cute girl, I went up and talked to her. In the span of three weeks I talked to at least 20 girls and got almost all of their numbers. I even hit on a few stunned older women at the mall which was pretty fun. My texting game was my Achilles heal so not much happened. I also got pretty good at getting girls to notice me in class. I would talk to a cute girl, then talk to another the next class and eventually get the hottest girl's attention. The problem was turning that attention into attraction, and noticing when the girls were just keeping me around for attention. My first actual date was last September, with a pretty girl I met while waiting for a meeting at a coffee house. We met a few days later, had a great time, and a couple days later she invited me to a concert. It was terrible (understatement of the century), I ran out of things to talk about in 20 minutes and the concert lasted almost 3 hours. I also had to juggle her, her two friends and try to make a connection with music blaring.
Most of the time I've been passive and met girls here and there, but I'm finally getting serious about this. To start I went with the newbie assignment to master the basics and build a solid foundation. Some of the assignments may be ahead of schedule because I already have a certain level of comfort with women. I can work easier at social circle gatherings but approaching girls during the day still has me reaching for a bottle of pepto bismol. Since I'm moving soon I'm focusing on practicing and gaining some momentum to take to New York. In a few years I'll be working with top models so I'm trying to get as good as possible.
My overall objectives are:
1. Become skilled at talking with and seducing women regularly
2. Start sleeping with women consistently
3. Once my skill rises, start finding high value women for longer relationships
Day 1:
I've been to these places before and am now going specifically to find girls. The objective was to scope the places out for potential, and get some confidence back with eye contact.
Destination 1: Mall
There's a huge mall about 30 minutes out from my house (I'm staying with my parents btw) that has every store from H&M to Louis Vuitton. It has a good mix of college girls, hot rich women, and being in orlando, some exotic women from accross the globe. I decided to go edgier with black jeans, black denim shirt with a red arab scarf and tan boots. I also keep stubble neatly trimmed and have a trendier haircut. I've come to naturally have the male model walk with people walking out of my way, although it fades a little if I get lost in thought too much. I lock eyes with a few girls walking through the mall, mostly with neutral reactions (looking to the side or back to their friend). One girl in Forever 21 that was shopping with her boyfriend looked me up and down then back at her boyfriend. Not sure but I think she just liked my style. At Macy's I passed in front of a cute girl in her twenties who kept eye contact the entire time. She smiled half politely, half who is this guy, although I may be projecting. Another girl smiled politely while walking through the mall. All together I made eye contact with at least 10 people, not including guns for hire. The few guy's reactions were pretty funny, from confusion to intimidated. Mostly there were families shopping, cute single girls sprinkled throughout, and some very attractive older women. I'm coming back another at a later time to see if there are more girls around my age. I feel like the girls were not as receptive and were in "shop and keep going mode." I would love to come back and try to knock them out of that mindset and start attracting them with day game.
Quickly I wanted to mention that I recently started nofap. I had done it before without choice and it made me more aggresive so I decided to do it on purpose. It's really helping with sexualizing the women I see in person, prob because I'm super horny all the time. Chase's article about lowering your standards really hit home, and now I'm seeing cute girls as someone to have sex with, rather than dismissing them and looking for girlfriend material that I'm not ready for yet.
Destination 2: Bookstore
Complete bust. I found the place online and when I got there it looked like a renovated Radio Shack with no cars parked in front. Needless to say I kept driving to spot 3.
Destination 3: Park Ave
Park Ave is the hipper part of the nice area of Orlando. It has cool bars, stylish shops and tons of different types of restaurants. If you've ever been to New York, it's like a mini version of Williamsburg. Also, the street ends at Rollins College where hot rich girls and trust fund babies go, or have their parents buy their way into. I got there around 6 and started walking down the avenue. The area is a lot trendier and my style translates better here, so girls were checking me out a lot more. This gave me a good boost of confidence so I started looking everyone in the eye. It was kind of empty with older couples having dinner or shopping with their parents. A lot of professionals on happy hour were there too, as well as couples my age on dates. There were also a few groups of cute girls throughout. But I have to say, every single girl I saw was very cute and very stylish. This may not mean a lot to some of you but when you're into fashion and the state uniform is jean shorts, a tank top and flip flops, a girl with a good sense of style is a god send. One thing that stood out to me was that girls with their boyfriends were making the most eye contact with me. One even looked over her boyfriend's shoulder then looked down like she thought I was cute. Anyway, I also made eye contact with a few older ladies who I could tell appreciated the attention. The best one was a kind of cute girl sitting on a bench who beamed a huge smile at me. I was going to approach but she was on the phone :/ As was leaving, more people trickled in, and as I pulled out of the parking garage, I saw the two hottest girls I had seen all day waiting on a curb. I almost turned around but decided to come back another day at night.
Destination 4: Waterford Center
This is back by my University close to where I live and is a big outdoor shopping center with big chain restaurants, some smaller local ones, and stores like ross, tj max, a theater, target, barnes and noble etc. It's a good place for date night and you can usually find everyone from whole families to college girls. I get there around 7:30 and it's pretty slow. My style apparently goes over people's head here although I do get some looks from a few girls (mostly neutral). I just practiced eye contact with whoever was there and got a few polite smiles. There were a few times where I locked eyes with a cute girl at a register inside a store while I was walking past the outside. They would keep eye contact the entire time or look down then back up. If anyone knows a way I can initiate an approach with those girls please let me know. The only thing I'm kicking myself about is that a girl that was walking behind me passed me on the side slowly, I made eye contact and could tell she wanted me to approach, but then I just kept walking! Erg, I'm not letting that happen again. Soon after I got really hungry and headed home. I'll probably come back during the weekend or during the week in daylight when college girls do their shopping.
So there it is! My first official day as an aspiring seducer. It felt great to get out there again and I'm looking forward to the next steps. Please let me know what you guys think about my adventures along with any guidance you might have. Also, sorry if it's long, I wanted to thoroughly introduce myself and be as open as possible so you guys can suggest where I could improve. If its easier for you guys if I condense it in the future, just let me know.
Thanks,
Styler
This community seems really supportive and you help each other grow a lot so I wanted to join. You guys have given such great advice and I hope to get some guidance and eventually help others achieve success with women too.
Intro:
I'm a fashion stylist (mostly women) living in Orlando and am moving to Brooklyn in a week and a half. I just graduated college, and during that time I've dropped 100 lbs. I'm still a little big at 200 lbs at 5'6" but have been weight training for four months straight and I'm continuously looking better. So far I have had no problem attracting good looking girls (that is until I open my mouth -.-). Girls are usually attracted to my silent confidence and I can get them pursuing me at first then our convos either go stale or I knock it out of the park and miss an escalation window. I've also become one of the more successful people in my network of friends and am seen as a leader, which also helps with attracting girls in my social circle. Most of my success with girls is sporadic but I'll explain in the next part.
My experience with women:
I've hooked up (from what I can remember) with one girl about seven years ago. It was freshman year and a girl from my high school came to visit with a few of her friends. We hung out with a bunch of our mutual friends and all night my closest friend was talking about getting me laid. I didn't think much of it and we all got drunk. We bullshitted all night and I talked for a while to the girl about college life, high school etc. As the party wound down, she started talking about dorms and mentioned she hadn't seen mine yet. So after doing somersaults in my head, I said "um ok, lets go see it" and drove us down the road to my place (I was an amazing drunk driver but realize now it was pretty stupid). When we got back we had a few more drinks and started making out on the sofa. Soon after I blacked out, and have a few flash backs of us having sex on my bed, the only real confirmation being the used condom on the floor and our naked bodies in the morning. I then drove her back to her friends in one of the most awkward car rides of my life and we never saw each other again.
After that I went back to my awkward self until I got into pick up artist stuff and tried it out (Thanks Chase!). Since then I've had random good opportunities. One girl even invited me to "study" at her place, but when I got to her place I didn't notice her leading me to her room, so I sat down at the kitchen table and actually studied. Yea, still punching myself for that one. The best streak I've had was when I was pledging my business fraternity a few years ago which made me really active around campus. I started giving no fucks so anytime I saw a cute girl, I went up and talked to her. In the span of three weeks I talked to at least 20 girls and got almost all of their numbers. I even hit on a few stunned older women at the mall which was pretty fun. My texting game was my Achilles heal so not much happened. I also got pretty good at getting girls to notice me in class. I would talk to a cute girl, then talk to another the next class and eventually get the hottest girl's attention. The problem was turning that attention into attraction, and noticing when the girls were just keeping me around for attention. My first actual date was last September, with a pretty girl I met while waiting for a meeting at a coffee house. We met a few days later, had a great time, and a couple days later she invited me to a concert. It was terrible (understatement of the century), I ran out of things to talk about in 20 minutes and the concert lasted almost 3 hours. I also had to juggle her, her two friends and try to make a connection with music blaring.
Most of the time I've been passive and met girls here and there, but I'm finally getting serious about this. To start I went with the newbie assignment to master the basics and build a solid foundation. Some of the assignments may be ahead of schedule because I already have a certain level of comfort with women. I can work easier at social circle gatherings but approaching girls during the day still has me reaching for a bottle of pepto bismol. Since I'm moving soon I'm focusing on practicing and gaining some momentum to take to New York. In a few years I'll be working with top models so I'm trying to get as good as possible.
My overall objectives are:
1. Become skilled at talking with and seducing women regularly
2. Start sleeping with women consistently
3. Once my skill rises, start finding high value women for longer relationships
Day 1:
I've been to these places before and am now going specifically to find girls. The objective was to scope the places out for potential, and get some confidence back with eye contact.
Destination 1: Mall
There's a huge mall about 30 minutes out from my house (I'm staying with my parents btw) that has every store from H&M to Louis Vuitton. It has a good mix of college girls, hot rich women, and being in orlando, some exotic women from accross the globe. I decided to go edgier with black jeans, black denim shirt with a red arab scarf and tan boots. I also keep stubble neatly trimmed and have a trendier haircut. I've come to naturally have the male model walk with people walking out of my way, although it fades a little if I get lost in thought too much. I lock eyes with a few girls walking through the mall, mostly with neutral reactions (looking to the side or back to their friend). One girl in Forever 21 that was shopping with her boyfriend looked me up and down then back at her boyfriend. Not sure but I think she just liked my style. At Macy's I passed in front of a cute girl in her twenties who kept eye contact the entire time. She smiled half politely, half who is this guy, although I may be projecting. Another girl smiled politely while walking through the mall. All together I made eye contact with at least 10 people, not including guns for hire. The few guy's reactions were pretty funny, from confusion to intimidated. Mostly there were families shopping, cute single girls sprinkled throughout, and some very attractive older women. I'm coming back another at a later time to see if there are more girls around my age. I feel like the girls were not as receptive and were in "shop and keep going mode." I would love to come back and try to knock them out of that mindset and start attracting them with day game.
Quickly I wanted to mention that I recently started nofap. I had done it before without choice and it made me more aggresive so I decided to do it on purpose. It's really helping with sexualizing the women I see in person, prob because I'm super horny all the time. Chase's article about lowering your standards really hit home, and now I'm seeing cute girls as someone to have sex with, rather than dismissing them and looking for girlfriend material that I'm not ready for yet.
Destination 2: Bookstore
Complete bust. I found the place online and when I got there it looked like a renovated Radio Shack with no cars parked in front. Needless to say I kept driving to spot 3.
Destination 3: Park Ave
Park Ave is the hipper part of the nice area of Orlando. It has cool bars, stylish shops and tons of different types of restaurants. If you've ever been to New York, it's like a mini version of Williamsburg. Also, the street ends at Rollins College where hot rich girls and trust fund babies go, or have their parents buy their way into. I got there around 6 and started walking down the avenue. The area is a lot trendier and my style translates better here, so girls were checking me out a lot more. This gave me a good boost of confidence so I started looking everyone in the eye. It was kind of empty with older couples having dinner or shopping with their parents. A lot of professionals on happy hour were there too, as well as couples my age on dates. There were also a few groups of cute girls throughout. But I have to say, every single girl I saw was very cute and very stylish. This may not mean a lot to some of you but when you're into fashion and the state uniform is jean shorts, a tank top and flip flops, a girl with a good sense of style is a god send. One thing that stood out to me was that girls with their boyfriends were making the most eye contact with me. One even looked over her boyfriend's shoulder then looked down like she thought I was cute. Anyway, I also made eye contact with a few older ladies who I could tell appreciated the attention. The best one was a kind of cute girl sitting on a bench who beamed a huge smile at me. I was going to approach but she was on the phone :/ As was leaving, more people trickled in, and as I pulled out of the parking garage, I saw the two hottest girls I had seen all day waiting on a curb. I almost turned around but decided to come back another day at night.
Destination 4: Waterford Center
This is back by my University close to where I live and is a big outdoor shopping center with big chain restaurants, some smaller local ones, and stores like ross, tj max, a theater, target, barnes and noble etc. It's a good place for date night and you can usually find everyone from whole families to college girls. I get there around 7:30 and it's pretty slow. My style apparently goes over people's head here although I do get some looks from a few girls (mostly neutral). I just practiced eye contact with whoever was there and got a few polite smiles. There were a few times where I locked eyes with a cute girl at a register inside a store while I was walking past the outside. They would keep eye contact the entire time or look down then back up. If anyone knows a way I can initiate an approach with those girls please let me know. The only thing I'm kicking myself about is that a girl that was walking behind me passed me on the side slowly, I made eye contact and could tell she wanted me to approach, but then I just kept walking! Erg, I'm not letting that happen again. Soon after I got really hungry and headed home. I'll probably come back during the weekend or during the week in daylight when college girls do their shopping.
So there it is! My first official day as an aspiring seducer. It felt great to get out there again and I'm looking forward to the next steps. Please let me know what you guys think about my adventures along with any guidance you might have. Also, sorry if it's long, I wanted to thoroughly introduce myself and be as open as possible so you guys can suggest where I could improve. If its easier for you guys if I condense it in the future, just let me know.
Thanks,
Styler
prob gonna watch superbad later