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Sudden high interest from her BFF

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Space Monkey
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So here's the sitrep;
Last Saturday, I was at an invite-only party of about 200 people. Beautiful venue, seated dinner, tuxedos and long dresses, the works. These events are held about three or four times a year and it is a group of people who knows each other quite well and meet regularly to network, connect and have a fancy night out.

I met this girl who lives in another country about half a year ago on another such event and we texted over the past months. Low invest, about one longer message a month for each of us. Half Indian, half European, epic tits, gorgeous wavy hair, let's call her 'Liza'. Excitement about each other ramped up towards the weekend, she asked which hotel I had booked so she booked something close by. It seemed like both knew what we were going to end up doing that night.

One of her best friends ('Sara') attended as well and I was sitting between them during dinner. At this point however I did not know how intimately related these two ladies are. Great conversation among the three of us and with the others at the table. Me leading the conversation and garnering attention and interest from other ladies and men at the table. This is a three hour seated dinner, and Sara started asking more detailed questions about my private life: how I spend my weekends, if I am in a relationship etc.. I said that I am single, working hard and looking for fun experiences with beautiful people everywhere I go. She poked further that she could not believe I did not have a girlfriend/wife. Surely there must be someone special. No, I don't and I mentioned that I often end up pushing girls away who come too close for comfort. That I am aware of this, am upfront about it and that I also would like to see it change with the right person. We then had an interesting chat about personal development and how that is important, so it didn't feel off. (See also my other thread about my coworker.)

As the evening progressed, I escalated with Liza, getting total compliance from her. Deep eye contact, close dancing, me grabbing her hair and pulling at it playfully. Her hands on me everywhere, her magnificent tits pressing against me. Softly breathed in her ear when saying something, this is where I felt a shiver going through her. Probably she was soaking at that point. She was in, but Sara always hanging around us. I included her but always kept my main focus on escalation with Liza. Sara came closer and started to get more touchy feely and trying to compete for my attention. I started getting threesome ideas and said let's go for an afterparty in my hotel. So we did. At the exit we bumped into another pair of friends who were staying in the same hotel and Liza asked them if they would join us for an afterparty in my room. F*ck, but not unsalvageable just takes a bit more time. Five of us, bottle of prosecco and some music. It was nice until Sara suddenly said she wanted to go to bed and asked me if it was safe to walk to her hotel on her own. Uhm, sure, safe city here and Liza confirmed. Just message us when she arrived safely. Sara came home and wished me a good night about ten minutes later so all good.
This left the four of us (no threesome :cautious:), but main target in my room and holding hands sitting next to each other. Gave her a light foot massage while we talked. When the bottle was finished, the other pair got up to leave. Finally alone time. However, Liza jumped up and said, yes I have to go as well! She walked out with them with just a kiss on the mouth. Total surprise and didn't manage to keep her. This was about 3AM.

I texted her at 330AM after taking a shower that 'I don't understand why the fuck she left so suddenly, but oh well' (bit of a low-value move, it was late and had some alcohol, and I *really* didn't understand the sudden switch). I realized my 'mistake' almost immediately so I wished her a good night and safe travels home and that it was a brilliant evening.

The next morning, I left for the airfield at 11AM when I got a reply from Liza that she also thought it was a brilliant evening and that she was annoyed she already had to check out from the room. Ignoring the why-did-she-leave comment. She asked if I had heard anything from Sara. No, I didn't. Then she freaked out; OMG she did not hear anything either and that was not like her. Maybe she is angry or disappointed as Sara was 'really into me'. I chose to ignore that too but it made me think.

Texted some more with Liza and we'll see each other in a month as I have a business trip to her city. In the meantime Sara is texting me pictures and generally being excited and asking when we can hang out again. I am very much aware she is close with Liza in my replies.

- Could Liza's jump have been a sudden loyalty conflict because they know each other for over 15 years (both in their late 30's) and Sara must have said something about liking me to Liza during one of the bathroom visits.
- Could my remarks about the type of relations have landed with Liza and that made her think?
- Or, more maliciously, did Sara mention something or fake a 'warning'?
- What should I have done differently?
- Is it failing to defuse LMR? Although LMR in my experience looks different.
- Could the environment of well-connected friends and a reputation to uphold play a part?
- Most importantly, should I further pursue Liza or take this one moment as a sign to let her go. My idea is to use the meeting next month as a test. If it is 1:1 and fun, it should end with sex. Note that this evening was the second time we met.
 
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KJ Francis

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She was in, but Sara always hanging around us. I included her but always kept my main focus on escalation with Liza. Sara came closer and started to get more touchy feely and trying to compete for my attention. I started getting threesome ideas and said let's go for an afterparty in my hotel. So we did. At the exit we bumped into another pair of friends who were staying in the same hotel and Liza asked them if they would join us for an afterparty in my room. F*ck, but not unsalvageable just takes a bit more time. Five of us, bottle of prosecco and some music. It was nice until Sara suddenly said she wanted to go to bed and asked me if it was safe to walk to her hotel on her own. Uhm, sure, safe city here and Liza confirmed. Just message us when she arrived safely. Sara came home and wished me a good night about ten minutes later so all good.

Beginner here, but outsider perspective...

Getting the threesome idea and inviting Sara was your missing escalation window with Liza. You did not find a way to solve the Sara situation and isolate Liza. I think she gave up here and invited the others wanting to now have a good social time. You still had a goal, but I think this is where you disappointed her and it directly caused the nature of the 3am goodbye. I think the hook had released before going to the room.

And Sara wanted you to walk her home and fuck her. Once Liza started anti-isolating, I think you should have changed targets... But I am not a pro. Maybe you could have made Liza think you were going to go with Sara and given her the opportunity to steal you back with your own small escalation window and time restraint.
 

WalkWithMe

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This is very helpful @Francis !
And a good reminder to not bite off more than I can chew. Getting two longtime girlfriends together for a threesome when there was no hint whatsoever that they were into that is a big challenge. One sign in hindsight was that they were anything but physical with each other. No hugging and kissing or poking each other. Lots of talking though :)
The two threesomes in my past were both with two girls who didn’t know each other either. Just three strangers who met that night who had an adventure.

Logistically going home with Sara would have been a tad difficult since I didn’t want to leave others with my stuff in my hotel room and it felt off for me to throw them out. Indeed, the nature of the setting had turned into a good social time. Tension was out of the air.

Next time I’ll be more aware of this and continue escalation as usual with one girl. Fuck her good and she will tell her BFF and that might open future opportunities.
In the meantime, Sara is indeed all over me on WhatsApp whereas Liza only sent two more short messages confirming the December 9th weekend. By the time that weekend approaches, I’ll reach out to hard close a specific date. Should this pose a problem then she’s out. If she’s game, I’ll fuck her good and that is the last chance she gets.
 

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Arrgghh the pain of a missed opportunity! On the other hand, challenging oneself is the only way to improve. Live and learn..
 
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