LR- Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

[Rage]

LR-,LR--: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

Hey radeng welcome to the boards!

Neat set of reports ... especially considering that that all happened ina day!

All sounded really well done, and I thought this was particularly insightful

English:I have a boy friend I am sorry but I can't do this
Me: I don't mind at all come here

*Grab her and start making out pretty hard core. I pull her shirt down and pull out her tits. She is getting really turned on.

English:Radeng, I can't. I have never cheated before.
Me:Well its a bit late for that one I think. Might as well enjoy it.

I hold a super playful frame here. She giggles. We make out again. I pull off her pants and start eating her pussy. She is moaning and into it. I am fighting some serious whiskey dick here. I had drank a ton of liquor. I manage to get it up, and a condom on and start fucking her. I am on the verge of losing my already pretty weak erection. I get a few pumps in and that mother fucking conscience hits this girl out of nowhere.

English: Wait, stop, I can't
Me: What

Im kind of lost on this one. I pull out. Erection done. Fuck.

I grab her and pull her under covers with me. I use my physicality to break the ice of slightly awkward environment after a girl asks you to stop fucking her. The environment becomes fun again and I kiss her. I look her right in the eye and smirk and reassert my playful frame.

me:What did you think was going to happen? You know this is where you planned to end up and its totally OK. I don't want to get in your business at all. Everything has already been done we might as well enjoy it as much as we can.


I start rubbing her pussy again. She starts moaning. She's back into it.

Amazingly I get a half mast erection inside a condom and back inside that safe warm place it always wants to be.

From here its smooth sailing, I go to town on this girl and she loves it.

I come, she comes, and then she comes back to her senses. She is like fuck fuck fuck I shouldn't have done that. I kiss her and tell her not to worry and smack her ass. She laughs, and promptly leaves.

I've run into this situation only a few times but each time, I get guilty a little + don't know how to push it in a sexy way. Your strategy worked well, I should try something similar next time girl brings up a boyfriend mid-escalation

Cheers dude, hope to read more from you

-Gem

 

[Franco]

LR-,LR--: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

radeng,

Welcome to the boards, bud! I'm glad you've decided to join the community and get yourself back in the game, as well as work your way toward absolute abundance. It's definitely a journey to achieve that mindset, but it's one you won't regret shedding blood, sweat, and tears for.

That being said, there's a bit of clarification needed in this report. None of the above girls actually resulted in an LR (lay report) for different reasons. I'll lay those out so you're aware why:

English Girl

This is a girl you have laid before. Any "re-lay" of a girl that you've already had sex with is not considered a lay report since she was a prior lover (and ultimately much easier to bed again if she's already been sexual with you). But either way, good job on the re-lay here!

Tatted Girl

You didn't have sex with this girl, but she did play with your cock. I'd say that's somewhere between a FR++ (bringing a girl to a private location) and an LR- (receiving oral sex). So possibly this was an LR--? I guess we have to classify exactly what a handjob is, but we'll go with LR-- for now.

Pakistani Girl

No sex occurred here either, but you did receive oral sex, so this results in an LR-. The difference might seem minimal, but if you have a lot of experience with women, then you probably also recognize that the difference between actually penetrating a girl (and engaging in intercourse) versus just about any other type of foreplay gives you entirely different results with how a girl will view and/or treat you afterward. The main difference being that a girl who has already slept with you pretty much feels like she has "given" herself to you while a girl who has only engaged in foreplay with you will still play "hard to get" because she feels like she hasn't given herself to you... yet!

All good stuff here, though. Make sure to view the Field Report Rules to get clarification on what all the different report indicators mean. I'll update the topic for you to clarify for everyone else.

Glad to have you aboard!

Cheers,

Franco

 

[Franco]

Re: LR--,LR-: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

radeng,

Does anyone have any suggestions of how I should have dealt with the Pakistani LMR? I knew she wanted sex but just wouldn't let herself have it for whatever reason. Also, I have had experience with buyers remorse after pushing through a lot of LMR. I really think her insistence on not having sex was very morally and culturally influenced and if we would have gone through with it she would have felt a lot of guilt about it. What are some good tactics to push through tough LMR and reduce buyers remorse and guilt for a girl like that?

Sometimes just more persistence can be the trick. I know it's taken me up to 4 hours (not joking) to break through a girl's LMR, and I've heard an instance or two of a guy basically taking almost the entire night to get a girl to open up. The other option is to agree to let her sleep over (if you know she has nothing serious going on in the morning) and then re-attempt to sleep with her then. The fact that you let her sleep over and that you are pretty chill about the whole thing can make her feel much more comfortable about the situation as well as let her know that you don't mind having her around.

As far as buyer's remorse, that mostly comes into play with how you treat her after the fact. Are you warm with her after sex (and possibly the next morning)? Did you text her something warm/nice a few hours after she left so she doesn't feel used? For more experienced women, was the sex actually as good as they hoped it would be?

If you can treat her well afterward and essentially be the "same guy" that she was attracted to before the sex, then she'll be a lot less likely to feel guilty about the act. This girl sounds pretty conservative and maybe felt like she had gone farther with you than she had with any other guy on a first date, so there's a good chance she might be willing to see you again if that's the case. Just make sure to keep pushing for sex (in a chill, fun way like you have been), and if she really likes you, she eventually won't be able to hold back anymore. Then maybe cook her breakfast in the morning.

- Franco

 

[Rage]

Re: LR--,LR-: Tatted, i (and re-lay with English girl)

Gem, thanks for the welcome. Regarding the LMR situation with English, I definitely think the fact that this was a re-lay is worth noting.

me: what did you think was going to happen...

I probably would have not used that line of it wasn't a re-lay as it would probably come off too arrogantly to a girl you haven't slept with before. Honestly, I rarely deal with girls with boyfriends unless it's blaringly obvious they want to cheat. At that point she is the guilty party in my opinion.

hey radeng, oh that's right I didn't catch that!

Yeah that does make it kind of different ...

Honestly, I rarely deal with girls with boyfriends unless it's blaringly obvious they want to cheat.

I have 2 different taken girls that I could bang righ tnow... 1 I dont worry about too muh cause its just a matter of when I run into her on campus, and can make my move (and she treats her boyfriend like friend zoned and told me he was just her friend... facebook said otherwise lol).

The other one I had gotten her number and gives me signs shes pretty into me, but shes been with her boyfriend for 3 years and her boyfriends not a tool like the first girl.

2nd girl I told her to text me if her and her boyfriend break up, and that I can't compete with black guys hahaha ... she;s trying to hit me up somehow, so maybe somehow it happens or more likely I fuck up somehow but learn from it.

Do you not do girls with boyfriends, out of not wanting to fuck up relationships? Or just cause it can be an uphill battle if they're into you but you have to work for it too much because she has to work past guilt and stuff?

Feel like this'll be something that becomes more obvious with more experience for me...

 

[Rage]

Re: LR--,LR-: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

Never mind with the questions I asked; I think how you first explained it explains it well... It's kind of just easier if she doesn't ... lol ran into a girls angry boyfriend over text right now so yeah became clear to me real quick

 

[Rage]

Re: LR--,LR-: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

Hey radeng,

That’s really insightful thanks; I have that same mindset about not taking college relationships seriously… but am still learning how to deal with it with individual girls.

Hope you do post more though dude, that intro story’s quite a story and it sounds like you’ve been doing pickup for years. I wonder where I’ll be once I leave college and am in my mid 20s and stuff… that’s like forever away but I wonder about it still… hopefully further ahead on my journey.

 

[ray_zorse]

Re: LR--,LR-: Tatted, Pakistani (and re-lay with English girl)

Hey Radeng dude this is totally inspirational Liked the backstory too.

I didn't have anything to add about the events in this report, except for your comments:

I also want to master some Day Game, which I have never done.

I can tell you'll be a natural at this As a beginner I would try one of the following openers:

Me: I was just walking here (or whatever) and I noticed how incredibly cute you are and I wanted to talk to you. I'm radeng.
Me: I saw you walking past (or whatever) and I noticed your amazing white jacket (or whatever) and I wanted to compliment you. I'm radeng.

I say this because in nightgame you can pretty much open however and she knows you're DTF simply because you're talking to her in that environment, in daygame you have to be a little more forward.
I would then cold read her, something about her day or possibly her nationality.

Me: So it looks as if you've been doing a bit of shopping, did you get anything as cute as your jacket?
Me: You are dressed to kill, you are heading out to meet some friends or something like that?
Me: I can hear an accent...you are French?
Me: Let me look at you.........you are Thai! do you live permanently in Australia now?

At this point see if she opens up. Your natural game will probably kick in at this point. Lastly, read and internalize the advice here, it's vitally important:
http://www.sashapua.com/how-to-defeat-approach-anxiety-forever/
I was already pretty good at daygame after 6 months of approaching but after putting the above advice into practice for the last 2~3 weeks I am getting a shitload more numbers etc. Another piece of advice is not to be shy on asking for the insta-date, date or the number, it can feel a bit weird in the context of randomly introducing yourself to her in the street but it needn't once you get used to doing it. These kinds of logistical issues also make daygame different from nightgame.

This girl is smoking hot but a little bit of a different girl for me because she doesn't drink or smoke.

This is why you need to be daygaming Of course there's no reason not to nightgame or night street game as well

-Ray