Hi guys,
I need your advice on how to move forward from here. Im just going to quickly go though the highlights of the first date to get to my current situation.
Key points of the first date:
- held her hands
- lots of Kino
- payed for her meal even though her offered to
- she mentioned she is having a "one-day" period, which suggest to me sex is off the agenda that night
- told her my plan for the weekend is to inspect some house which i intend to buy, she is keen to come along, but unsure and will get back to me later.
- drove her home. At the closing of the night, we kissed (on the lips), my hands felt the upper part of her body but no sex, because of the period that she mentioned earlier on.
She told me to msg her so she knows I got home safely, which I did. An hour later, we texted a bit more, teasing and joking until we said goodnight.
Next day, I sent her another a needy message saying how much I missed her and want to hold her hands. Asked if she wants to schedule a second date next week and if she coming to the house inspection tomorrow to which she said no to both invitations because she is "busy". Then I replied, "thats ok, have a good rest, baby."
Third day, (1 text message) I messaged her again, saying how I like her laugh and how it brightens my day ect.. (needy text). She didnt reply.
It was at this point that I started to read about PUA stuffs on girlschase and donjuan, because I think something is not right. Looking back, I realised what a beta and needy guy I was.
On the forth day, I went no contact. 9 days later, she finally messaged back, fishing for some validation from me. I continued to ignore her for a full day, then she sent me another text asking if I am upset with her.
May 11, (sent my last needy message)
...after 9 days of radio silence...
May 20, Her: Hi Norton, How r u?
May 21, Her: Hey!! R u upset with me???
(1 hr later)
Me: Hey XXX, Sorry didnt mean to ignore you, just that it has been very busy lately. I bought an apartment in ___
hows your schedule like? any free time?
(20mins later)
Her: Good to hear from you
ya.. I've been busy too 
(1 hr 10 mins later)
Me: when are you free to go out for a date again?
No reply.
My 10-days of no contact effort generated some response from her. But I am not sure if her response is to get some validation from me or her interest level has geniunely gone up, but I think I have come off as being too needy again. I felt I have gone back to square one. How can I salvage this?
From my reading, I did what this website taught me to:
1) Treat disinterest by amplified disinterest through no contact, so we make the girl chase us instead of the other way around
2) Use text to purely to set up another date, not chatting, while keeping it short.
So what did I do wrong here?
What is my next step from here? I am thinking I should not be texting her again until 3 days have passed, if she still dont respond, then I will just send her a casual text to build some rapport (I think the problem is I didnt build enough rapport after all that radio silence, just straight to asking her out for a date), before asking for a second date.
What do you think guys?
I need your advice on how to move forward from here. Im just going to quickly go though the highlights of the first date to get to my current situation.
Key points of the first date:
- held her hands
- lots of Kino
- payed for her meal even though her offered to
- she mentioned she is having a "one-day" period, which suggest to me sex is off the agenda that night
- told her my plan for the weekend is to inspect some house which i intend to buy, she is keen to come along, but unsure and will get back to me later.
- drove her home. At the closing of the night, we kissed (on the lips), my hands felt the upper part of her body but no sex, because of the period that she mentioned earlier on.
She told me to msg her so she knows I got home safely, which I did. An hour later, we texted a bit more, teasing and joking until we said goodnight.
Next day, I sent her another a needy message saying how much I missed her and want to hold her hands. Asked if she wants to schedule a second date next week and if she coming to the house inspection tomorrow to which she said no to both invitations because she is "busy". Then I replied, "thats ok, have a good rest, baby."
Third day, (1 text message) I messaged her again, saying how I like her laugh and how it brightens my day ect.. (needy text). She didnt reply.
It was at this point that I started to read about PUA stuffs on girlschase and donjuan, because I think something is not right. Looking back, I realised what a beta and needy guy I was.
On the forth day, I went no contact. 9 days later, she finally messaged back, fishing for some validation from me. I continued to ignore her for a full day, then she sent me another text asking if I am upset with her.
May 11, (sent my last needy message)
...after 9 days of radio silence...
May 20, Her: Hi Norton, How r u?
May 21, Her: Hey!! R u upset with me???
(1 hr later)
Me: Hey XXX, Sorry didnt mean to ignore you, just that it has been very busy lately. I bought an apartment in ___
(20mins later)
Her: Good to hear from you
(1 hr 10 mins later)
Me: when are you free to go out for a date again?
No reply.
My 10-days of no contact effort generated some response from her. But I am not sure if her response is to get some validation from me or her interest level has geniunely gone up, but I think I have come off as being too needy again. I felt I have gone back to square one. How can I salvage this?
From my reading, I did what this website taught me to:
1) Treat disinterest by amplified disinterest through no contact, so we make the girl chase us instead of the other way around
2) Use text to purely to set up another date, not chatting, while keeping it short.
So what did I do wrong here?
What is my next step from here? I am thinking I should not be texting her again until 3 days have passed, if she still dont respond, then I will just send her a casual text to build some rapport (I think the problem is I didnt build enough rapport after all that radio silence, just straight to asking her out for a date), before asking for a second date.
What do you think guys?