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Calls & Texts  Texting secrets of The Dom

MarioTheDom

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So guys,

I’ve done some coaching lately, helping out with tinder messaging and showing how I get dates from leads from day game.

One of the most common things I heard in my journey was and is “ok but what do I write” so I thought I would make a quick “guide” on how I do things.

I don’t pretend I hold the keys to the “absolute” truth, this is simply my experience and what I’ve seen with other guys that have results.

I’ve seen in forums and blog posts comments about texting few wrong beliefs that I would like to address before getting into the nitty and gritty of this.

  • A woman might match you or give you your number just because she might be bored or saw a glimpse of something interesting in you, but emotions are fleeting and are like petrol vapors, they are strong as soon as release but tend to disperse with time.
  • No matter how sophisticated or super targeted your texting is, if you have a shitty profile online or your set was shaky to say the least, you will face an uphill battle.
  • This is simply because even if you did get the match or the number, reason #1 always rule – a solution for this is to do better set, have better smv, or the ultimate goal, do both.
  • I shouldn’t double text: Well this one is funny because it implies like if you send two messages, you are a low level beta male.
  • To a certain degree, I would say, yes you shouldn’t double text or enter a “I’m chasing you” frame. If you would hold your phone at arms distance without seeing names, would your side of the conversation overwhelm the other side?
  • Sometimes you might need to double text to steer a conversation towards a more favorable frame. See the example below
  • Build comfort via text: This is probably the belief that mess up with most guys the most. Comfort is built in person, getting to know someone is a shit test to see if you are willing to give away your time and attention for nothing.
  • You shouldn’t be texting after X time: this comes mainly from the day game chats. I would tend to agree that texting a new lead at a certain hour sounds needy – Imagine if you get a text from a girl you never met on Friday night at 9 pm – what would you think? Booty call! While for guys booty calls with strangers are exciting, girls have a different view on this: “oh he has nothing to do and I’m the best option? Weird”
  • Some girls work long shifts so they can only answer late, in my opinion doesn’t matter if she replies 5 hours to your text, what matters is how she replies to you (assuming you sent a decent text)

  • I should write 2/3 of what she wrote and 1/3 more of the time she used: Yes and No.
  • You’ll need to judge according to the situation: you shouldn’t send the “Blue wall of text” – No, expressing yourself clearly and making sense, even if it’s longer than her message, isn’t beta.
  • About the waiting 1/3 of the time, I would agree with that with the caveat that if she writes you at night, she might be down for something. I personally had last moment organized meetings because I simply said, “I just got out of the gym, was waiting for you to join me but you skipped it ;)” “ahahahah but i’m free now!” kinda conversation

Now that we addressed this, let’s lay some ground rules that when in doubt, always refer to the:m


Your texting shouldn’t embarrass you in front of others:

Imagine you end up in a YouTube video and your texting is presented to the audience, would you immediately cringe at that? Would you look desperate and needy to get a date and / or some female attention?

The internet is forever – looking at some of my own chats from the past I learned that the more direct and to the point, is always better.


  • Be honest and don’t beat around the bush.
  • I see plenty of guys that text like they are a corporate mid-level manager trying to not get fired by ass licking every possible person in the corporation ladder.
  • “I hope you are doing well” “Great, how are you?” “I’m very good, I hope you the same”

  • Do you really care? Or what would you really care is about setting up a date?
  • You can’t fuck a number, your goal is to set up dates, not chit chat, which this leads to point 3

  • Don’t become a text buddy.
  • I think tinder and IG have changed this where in the past you would chat on Facebook for days as the lead was mainly from a social circle source, set up a date fast because girls are never single. You are the new shiny object.
The more it goes on, the longer you can get fucked up.

Text buddies get friend zoned, don’t become a text buddy

Text at strategic timing and go for the date

  • In my experiences you should send the first text or straight on the moment, so she has it on top of her chats or wait for couple of hours maximum, never the day after because the “vapours” of attraction already started to evaporate.
  • If the numbers is obtained online, your goal should be to set up the date within the same convo.
  • If you get the number from a day game set, you have two options, either go to meet the same day - which is a coin flip in results, ghost or date or if she responds positively within the 24 hours you got the number, as soon as she is free (we’ll see how to do that later)
I usually text in two time frames:

From 12 to 13, usually people are in lunch break and free to chat - and from 18 to 19, in the frame where people finish work. - or if the girl text me for a cheeky late meeting.
  • I usually don’t text in the morning…I mean, the first thing I think about is coffee, what about you?

  • Humor via text isn’t always understood, try to keep it short and sweet and to a minimum, we aren’t here to do a stand up comedy show.
  • If you send an emoji here and there, it’s fine but don’t try to “pimp up” your jokes by adding too many of them – it looks girlie.


  • Follow this structure to organize your texting and to understand where you are on the map:
  • OPEN
  • FEELER
  • FAMILIARIZATION
  • SOFT CLOSE
  • CLOSE
  • LOGISTICS

  • What are these steps?

  • OPEN: your first message, usually an open loop is the strongest way to start a conversation because it catches the attention, trigger curiosity and engages in a conversation.

  • FEELER: This is a term from the London day game model, where you basically get a “feel” on how engaged the girl is in you – I hijacked this term also for online where you basically send a message alluding at something you like about her (note that I said alluding, not blatantly declare your love)


  • FAMILIARIZATION: This is where the rubber meets the road. It can be as short as one message or few ones. I personally like to use this phase just to send a witty comment or a quick banter “I know you were the right one the moment you swiped right” or “Still wandering around the streets of Prague with dreamy eyes or you got back to planet earth?” – I personally try to keep this only to one message and go to the soft close asap.

  • SOFT CLOSE: before going all in and show your cards, feint a close, I usually say something like “you and I should go on a wine adventure” to see how she responds

  • CLOSE: Always be closing! “Ok, let’s meet

  • LOGISTICS: this is where you fix your place and time. I usually don’t recommend putting everything together as it includes too many variables that could get fucked up. “Ok let’s do Thursday at 5.30 at the bar in the corner with 34 and 5th” you see, there are at least three variables in this text that could lead to a No, and we learned from sales that you only want to collect “yes”
  • Also, I would recommend meeting at a landmark or a popular meet up location. Maybe her ex works at the bar you picked up and she doesn’t want to tell you straight that via text.
  • the solution is to go step by step in this sequence:
  • DAY, LOCATION, TIME. – Offer her two options for the day, like the sleek sales people do giving you the illusion of choice.


  • That’s it gents – this is just a simple step by step process that I do and forge my own lines. Which you should aim to do too. I think the world has seen too many “hey trouble” or “always this friendly to strangers?” lines.

  • Best of luck
 
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