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Space Monkey
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In the beginning there was a random news group. From time to time someone was showing frustration and usual reply was "you need to get laid", with obligatory pickupguide link (btw still up). I never paid attention to that link until one day a girl left a comment how crazy that boys was, and their stuff would totally work on her. That got me interested a little bit. I was getting lucky often enough anyway...
 

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From pickupguide I learned a usenet group exist, alt.seduction.fast ,and that group was infested with spam, but was able to get the link to fastseduction and mASF forum. Spent days trying to learn from player guide, then finally setup my news reader for mASF and "big adventure" was about to start. It was confusing with so many resources, Mistery method, Gunwitch method, David Deangelo book, Cliff's list, poster archives, RSD, and now obviously, best seduction forum on the planet, mASF itself. Style was still posting, Mystery was posting, BadBoy.. The Game book was not out yet.. I was in heaven. It opened all new world to me. Until one day Razorjack posted, we will never get laid. He meet some group and everybody was trying hard to look alpha or something. It crushed me, destroyed my confidence. I was angry at him, but then remembered I was already getting laid... What the hell was going on in my head? Am I getting worse after all learned stuff? It seems so. I had to take different approach..
 

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I am a shy guy, typical introvert I would say. So how did I manage to get girls before? Well, answer is alcohol. Not too much. Just to remove my inhibitions. To be free to act as I wanted. In seduction community this is frown upon. Corvette admitted he uses ecstasy (MDMA) to get girls and it works fine for him. For me, I was always drinking when out having fun. Without it feels like fish out of water. With all this rules, steps, out of comfort tasks, sarging was more like chores then fun. Is there easier way? Something that fits me more? Now I had the knowledge about afc's, supplicating, ioi's and so on, I could use that to elevate my confidence sky high. So I did it. But I used that new level of confidence to have more fun, not to get more girls. Make sense? Alcohol? Staying in comfort zone? What is this? Well, I wanted to go out, but didn't learn all I needed to know. As discoteques was all going out of business, and I was addicted to that, I started going to techno parties and was better, lasted longer, had much more people. And I was going only to have fun, not to get girls. But guess what? Girls approached me instead. I was in shock. HB 8 come to say hi? To me? But I have no game. So at parties I did nothing, and I better stay quiet what I let go. Had to deal with girls throwing themself at me, literally grabbing me by the crotch, hanging themself around my neck, trying to kiss me. This never happened to me before. Not every time did I reach that level of confidence, but it was not rare either. There is something magnetic about high level of confidence as some girls would wait next to me all night to make a move. Her friends trying to drag her away didn't work. Scary stuff. But it was just illusion, so I sneaked out and left, feeling bad for her.
 

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How was my interaction with girls before pickupguide was discovered. I was bartender back then and colleague waitress was messing with me from day one. She had a boyfriend, so what was I supposed to do. She made it clear, can't stand boys who fall in love with her, and can't fuck her properly. And I was a virgin. She always finds new ways how to show me her panties. She enjoyed that. Me like good AFC I was, had no idea what to do. And she tried everything to provoke me, like stealing my stuff and I had to wrestle her to get it back. And we were always together when free of work, siting on the floor very close, listening to the music in dinning room. Sometimes she will come for a hug. Sometimes was sleeping in my storeroom, tired from night out. We were always eating together apart from others. When was thirsty, she came for a drink and thanks me with an insult. Stupid. I know I was, no need to remind me girl. Then one night out a girl I know approach me, likes my eyes, invites me to the beach. I did not show up, so she came to my workplace for explanation. Ok, will come tomorrow. Turned out she was only 15. Too young sorry. She ended up drawing funny figures on my skin and that was my first "date". Later that summer I got a kiss from HB 8. That was instructive. Now I know how to kiss, thanks to blonde and the way she worked her tongue. Two more years have passed before my first sex at age 21.
 

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When I turned 21, things started happening finally. Where to start? Trying to remember right timeline. As you know, alcohol was always part of my nights out. Me and friend see two girls sitting at the table and decided to approach. Don't remember the opener but you can bet was some bullshit. Ok we sit with them and talk, my target was left, his target across me. As we talk I totally spontaneous remove flip flop from girl across and she put her leg on my lap. Started playing with her leg again spontaneous and not thinking about it. My AFC friend didn't have the feeling how to talk to his target and upset her. She stand up, hug me from behind and whisper-invite me to her room. And I didn't go because friend. Another evening with another friend, we see girl, HB 28 walking alone and invite her for a drink, him do all the talking, as he was close her age. Another evening out with a group of friends and me way higher energy, got bored with them and left solo for some adventure. As I walk, come across HB 28. Poor thing didn't stand a chance. We ended on the beach till morning. Again no sex, she had a pad so didn't dare go deeper in her panties. She didn't try to stop me. As you know, girls are very horny in those days. Another night, another friend and we take with us two girls from social circle. There was no plan, just one drink and early return. But me again high energy, as we walk for a car, I grab and carry one girl, I barely knew. Her father is family friend. She come alive and don't want to go home, so we drive to the near city and split. We find some quiet spot and kiss. Later I finger her. She was totally ready to fuck but I opted for next evening. Next evening she had a pad. We spend the night in the park just kissing and talking.
 

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Finally got me a girlfriend, me age 21, her 20. That summer was crazy and I was restless, going out every evening. Most of the time was going out alone, visiting bars, trying to score with some waitress. My routine was walking to nearest auto-camp, take first drink double vodka tonic, walk for next place where were many bars, another drink and I was ready for business. One afternoon I see this blonde girl behind the counter and talk to her. She was just helping another girl, as her duty was in the dinning room. She looks insecure and needy. After few hours of talking I say to her, we should go downtown. I managed to find a ride and we go to some place with music. Driver didn't want to let us alone so we left instead. Visited few bars, get to know each other. She was nervous. Then visited discoteque and danced a bit. Asked a friend for ride back at her workplace. Already kissed her in the car, then all night on the beach. We were together for the rest of the summer. Every evening I was waiting for her to finish work and then we spent the rest of the night together. Of course we had sex wherever we could, mostly on the beach. As summer ended, we managed to sneak in one bungalow illegaly and had first night in the bed. It takes time to get used sharing bed with someone. We were both anoyed at first. It was funny. Then she had to go back home and me to work. Seven days later she came back in total surprise. My boss let me go with her. As we walk in late afternoon near the sea, her golden hair shining in the sun, in perfect contrast with her denim outfit. She was beautiful. She waited for me in restaurant at the auto-camp, to get ready. After dinner in restaurant, we make it to my old workplace and squat room 11, the same I got my first kiss two years ago. The place is empty and I know how to enter with a bit of climbing. Next day she say she was thinking of mariage, and I say ok. We were pretty close and it was natural next step. Two years later we were married. And it was a trap I fell in so mindlessly. There was red flags all over the place, her needines being most obvious. Is way I decided to never enter serious relationship again.
 
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Somehow managed to exit that marriage and I was never so happy and relieved. Not just happy. That feeling to be free again was so good. I made quite a few female friends, as we visited same events over and over. I was generous with drinks. Sometimes girls I don't remember will come and remind me I used to buy them drinks. Once a girl at event standing not far and angry looking at me. It was girl from a bar earlier that evening, and she most likely expected me to come talk to her after all those drinks. Well didn't see you, sorry. Last thing on my mind in discoteque is hookup. So many girls dance near you and is perfect. But as the end approach I start looking. Too late buddy, they are gone.

Some of girls become pretty close to me. To describe a bit, HB model would come, drink from my glass and left without need to say anything. Other times would not stop talking, and she was quite funny and entertaining. I have drive home her drunken ass many times and never tried to take advantage of that, even when she suggested we go swimming naked. I did give her to drive my car once when both drunk. And when she sexy danced around me, didn't had any effect. I knew her too well. "Who is she?" asked girl I was out with, after noticing she poked me with a finger on my abs when passing by. Or we will pass each other without words, our hands making contact till last moment as we slowly walk away from each other. I never run after her. She was free spirit and would come to me anyway. She was so pretty and I loved her so much. And btw she didn't wear panties, ever. Had to watch over her when she had to pee outside quite some times. And she was not only girl doing this when drunk. In full daylight in the public park they squat like is nothing.

Then got a "secret" friend. No one of her friends knew about me. This also created some funny situations, like me trying to reach a counter and she slaps me. Hey, let me pass. All her friends puzzled, what was that slap for and who am I? No one knew we see each other every week and very long time. Meet her when my friend asked me for a room to have sex with some girl. And this girl was with that girl. She suggested we become friends. Don't know how to classify our relationship. Not a girlfriend, not a lover, we never fucked. But we did ton of talking, ton of traveling, going out together many times. But then again, she liked my massages late at night. She would start complaining her legs hurts. It was obvious invite to help her out. Started with legs and ended with her pussy, then oral sex. Did this hundreds of times, and still had to watch out for SD. If I moved to quickly she will freak out and no deal. She had most beautiful pussy I have ever seen. And she was still a virgin.

That other girl was cheating on her husband, and we covered. Then HB cheater started calling me on the phone. She liked to talk. We also meet few times. I was often drunk from night before when she called. Dangerous situation. So I say fuck it and send her a message I like her. We meet and she was uneasy. What's the problem? We don't have to do this. And she say "but you know everything about me". And? She was worried she ruined her chance for something serious as she was looking to replace her husband. For me one marriage was enough anyway. So we started fucking on regular basis. Best lover I ever had.
 

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Am I bad boy or it was girls to provoke me to act like one? I had to reject quite few requests for meeting with HB cheater. I was busy and she wanted way too much of my time. So we got in a fight often. And there is a limit to her shit I can take. She was allergic to blondes because I liked them. Also she had impression I can pull whenever I want. She witnessed once after fight how I approached beautiful girl sitting alone at a bar. Little she knew we had history, because it was HB model, sober for once.

One night after a fight when she left, I somehow check my front door, and find her siting there in cold and dark. Must have been one hour. Did I feel bad and sorry for her. Took her in, and did best I could to make it right. Usually am I who get silent, not her. When she see she overdone it and I lock up, she reverse her behavior as she can't stand see me in that mood. And she know how to do it, how to talk to me like to little boy, and her soft words and touch having healing effect. Loved her for that. This time was my turn to do the healing, only way I knew how, in bed.

But drama was never far away. Once I had bad day and was tired, and she would not stop attacking me. As we reached our position, she start undressing and still attacking. Then she realize I have no intention to have sex. I was too pissed off. Decided to drive her home and break up. But she managed to soften me before we reached her place and we still had sex that night. Then once after summer night sex, she look herself in the mirror worried. What? "My hair.. I left home with straight hair and now they are curly again.. how do I explain this to my family?" She was so funny. I have seen her like that before, when she sent angry message intended for me to wrong person.

One time I throw her out of the car because she showed up on her period the second time in a row. I don't mind that, I do my duty when time comes, but.. where was she entire month? Why it was me to have to fuck her on her period? She knows how much I like going down on her, and then this? That was a dick move from me. The fuckup was, in a heat of the moment I told her I still see my ex wife. I realized how dick move that was, explaining I was under effect of chemicals from work, which don't mix well with alcohol. She come next morning and we have sex. She told me, she don't mind me being a dick, but seeing my ex when she was there for me any time I wanted, that she cannot pass. From that day on, she used me just for sex, no cuddling after, no talking.. and let me tell you, it sucks.
 

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Tried internet pull just once, long time ago, via ICQ. It worked, but was too much time consuming for my taste. She was highly educated and hold high position in art department. I was surprised how that worked out. Then there was some easy ONS. After business dinner she grabs my knee, and I grab her pussy under the table. How easier can it get? Well, not best looking thing around, and it took a month for my dick to recover. Also her screams, she was way too loud. I learned not to flirt with women I have no interest in. They can be pain in the ass to get rid of, and sometimes ignoring is only option. I also avoid EC from such women everywhere.

Sometimes when girl flake on me, I visit strip club. Been only a few times and it was like this. I see is empty and say so to staff. "Better that way. All girls for You" . I try to avoid company since they cost money and join a girl behind the counter. This way have company for free. We talk and I share my bottle of wine with her. A striper try to drag me with her as they usualy do, but I say I like this barista already. That makes bartender girl very happy and we chit chat and drink wine. But now other striper come, and this one does not ask if I want company. She press herself onto me. That worked. I get free kino. We hug in one corner and all for free. But striper has to go on stage and now bartender girl come to me, also pressing herself on me. "But You said you like me". I laugh. "She surprised me, sorry". Striper comes back and try to sell me lap dance. Since she was so good to me, I suggest we sit and drink the usual. Later visit discoteque and bartender girl is super frendly. Visit the toilet and say let's go in womens toilet for fun. As I walk back, there is a girl washing her hands and we look each other in the mirror and smile. I was feeling anything would work tonight. Some other night, other strip club. Blonde striper came to me and I say yes. We drink the usual, her doing the stage number and back to me all night. Then the second striper try to join and the blonde press her knee into my leg signaling "ignore the bitch". It was funny how competitive they are. Then the other doing her number on stage near me, say "look" , she showed me her shaved pussy, about half. Rest was covered. My instant reaction, insert my hand in her panties, and then ask, can I do this? And she signaled no with her head, but it was so subtle I doubt anyone noticed. The reason I said yes to a blonde is because she was perfect 9 and looking shy. She was so sweet.
 

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When you have girl for a friend and any topic goes, you learn things. Like what exactly goes on when a group of girls goes out. Also to what type of men they are attracted on case to case basis. All this comes out spontaneously, as she talk about her night out or entire week. This is primary source, not some men interpretation. And when you have friend like this for 8 years, till her marriage that is, you learn a ton about girls that is off limit to men. Often very intimate details when her sister or close friend she talk about.

Did you know men are more likely drop out of marathon then women. Is it stubbornness like a mule or they can simply endure more pain. I often tried to keep up with them in a race or on training run. Ego tells me, no way she can be faster, then ok I can keep up with her, and then they always win. They can endure that pain better then us. To tell one story about some of the hardest marathon in the country, I was behind one girl and barely keeping up. When route was hard, read elevation was steep, she would release some warrior scream and pull herself trough that. You have to admire her determination. That girl got away. Next pass me and me again trying to keep up. On a crossroad left is half-marathon, I was running that, but girl goes right up the hill for a full marathon. The respect I had for her can't describe. I guess I suck at running. But, no one managed to get away on a bicycle of the same class, mtb, ever. Only race road bikes, with very narrow tires can. This year are more electric bikes on the road then plain bikes, and I still manage to keep up, for now. My mechanic is not happy when I bring my bike. "This is impossible to work on. what the heck man, ever wash this bike? Gears so dirty, how can you adjust that?" Well I ride often and hard, not keeping bike for display, sorry. The reason I talk about racing, it gives me big boost in confidence, also healty. Keeps diabetes type 2 away for one. And there is some use in having good endurance.
 

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That feeling when girl informs you her cycle is late. Now imagine someone's else wife telling you this. Scary shit. If you had at last 5 of this with different women, you are on my level (of stupidity). Kid asked her mom , "did you wanted girl or boy?" All I wanted is back massage. This joke hit hard, so accurate.

Now I want you to imagine really cute girl, about 18 to 20 y.o. her hands on her back, standing next to you in the bar, and rocking, checking you out in obvious fashion, while talking to her girl friend. This is daytime when there is less traffic and everybody is sober. If you get this kind of attention often, you are doing fine in body language department. Now game is different beast, or is it?
Maybe you already have what it takes. And why is it that less educated girls are more passionate lovers? No one brainwashed them, so they act natural. If you didn't you should try it, big big difference. They get so obsessed, they will wear your sweater day after day, call you when masturbating and shit like that.

Now let's jump on sunday 5:00 am. You see girl standing in the bar, talking. You pick one straw from the counter and hit her two times on the head with that. She is mesmerized and insta likes you. Heck, even her boyfriend likes you.
It's all body language. The thing is, this is how you roll. You did it spontaneously and it worked. Then you approach another girl in another place. You just come to her, saying nothing. And she is all over you, in like 1 second. Instant attraction. The boy next to her feels defeated. He see what is going on with her. I don't want anybody to feel bad, he is good match for her. I bring him in the set and after bit of talking, left for bigger adventure that morning that lasted till 6:00 pm, crazy. I also hate when new waitress is into me and all bar feeling down. I don't want that. I need much bigger place, not some local hole. Go big or go home worked for me. Important note. You have to feel that confidence. Then you can be spontaneous and anything will work. Even enemies will like you. Positive energy is contagious. One morning I was describing how rock concert that night went to one friend. "When band started playing, crowd reacted instantly, dancing like crazy in first rows, and I said ups, let move back, this is above my energy level" And he say, "no way I move from my place". He was thinking they were agrressive and wanted to fight. "No one was aggressive, just positive energy" Band did very good job and crowd just reacted to energy with energy. You want to stand there like a dick, when madness going on around you? I don't think he understood how beautiful that energy was, you have to see it to understand.

And then there are bikes (motorcycles). Get yourself big sexy bike and learn how to ride good, it is magnet for chicks. Do not just believe, try it and see for yourself. Biker bars and bikers meetings mostly. Disclaimer! Don't kill yourself. When you drink and drive a big bike, it is fun as hell. Add speed and bad reaction and you have recipe for disaster. Many of my friends killed themself on a bike. One of my bikes first owner lost his life too. I did enough stupid shit because alcohol. 3:00 am going home full speed, drunk and determined to break silent autumn night with some crazy loud bike sounds. I was performing for imaginary audience. Took many risks that night. Then there is touring. Big bikes will get you to distant places and are very reliable. They were built for that, so don't hesitate to travel. It takes some stamina, but you already must have some endurance because workout. If afraid of big beasts, remember tiny girls ride them also.
 

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Canadian PUA spotted in eastern europe, he is never going back. I guess girls are less complicated. I keep hearing US is sexually frustrated because religion, but is just a rumor I guess, and we know how stupid people can be. All the chess drama around Niemann reaching colossal proportion, without any evidence, just on rumors alone is crazy. Fun fact, he is about to have way more girls that can handle, now that all eyes are on him.
 
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