LR The Love Parade

[lux7]

Well... I went at local street/love parade, she was a tourist, an artist, on her last day here, traveling alone, we had a few drinks... Damn I don't even know why I'm writing this, it should be such a foregone conclusion .

Yes it was so fun and natural and carefree, it just was a great day.

MEET UP
I met her, asked if she was on her own, talked and walked a couple hundred meters behind one of the huge sound system cart.
I want to get her a beer and get more in either a party or 1-1 situation, but she's been walking for 2 hours in that direction already and knows there's no shop.
And she says something "well, it was good meeting you, I should go to... (somewhere) ".

I think a few seconds, I've just been here for 10 minutes, maybe there are some options more down to have fun than this one.
But then fuck it, she seems cool, she's been following me enough, I don't give a fuck about the parade.... So I decide to rather (try to) stick with this one. So I tell her that we turn around and find a shop for her beer and cigarettes.

We go back, buy her and myself a beer and then we go sit.

THE CONVERSATION
We talk for maybe an hour or so just sitting on an half-desert staircase.
I get to know she had more than 10 boyfriends in a rather conservative country -her mom believes she's a virgin, though I think her mom is much smarter than that - and she was in a lesbian relationship.

I think almost smiling to myself "me be damned: if I don't pull this off I'm an idiot, if I do, well, no glory, it was just the most obvious conclusion ".

On the other hand her fist time was relatively late for a girl, 20YO if I remember correctly, but up until 25 she never enjoyed sex and faked all the times (and now she's 27).

I tell her how refreshing it is to hear Asians being honest about their racism and her being honest about it (she's not racist BUT she deeply hates Chinese and would never merry.. blah blah blah, the usual Asian stuff).
I really do love that, and I laugh hard when she says she would like to marry someone... For the passport to get out of her country . And again tell her I love her being so honest.

She sometimes holds back in what she's saying or comments she doesn't know why she's opening so much, and I use the occasion to underline "you can be totally honest with me, I'm just a guy you met on the street and I'm so unjudgemental", this way it underlines she can be honest and let herself go and that, well, she won't see me again anyway, so just enjoy till the end .

THE SECOND MOVE
We move down to a huge sprawling left-wing expansion with lots of left-wing "weird" clubs and bars and some art gallery which all look a bit like a squat.
This city loves places like this and it attracts lots of artists and hipsters.
I use the word "faggot" here and there to describe the city and the crowd and she really dislikes that, but I think she's faking.

By now we're connected good and really open to each other.

We both comment how good it was that we met.

KISS
Even though this website recommends not to kiss before back home, by now we're spending a lot of time together and are so well connected, it would feel strange in my opinion not to do anything even though it's not yet escalation location.

At a certain point I stop, pull her in and quickly kiss her on the mouth, then keep walking.

We sit down again, this time super close and keep talking.

I have my arm around her waist and kiss her a few times more.

Funny enough, she tells a story of her sleeping with her boss and then adds "I'm a bitch, now you know".
I think I should tell her she's not a bitch just because she slept with a few guys, but then again, an admission of bitchiness is almost like giving in and admitting we're gonna sleep together, so fuck it, I take that rather than proving myself as the "non judgy type" by telling her there's nothing bitchy about it .

THIRD BAR
Maybe it could already be pull time, but I'm really having a great time, so I wanna keep going and have one more beer.
There's also a light drizzle, and it makes it all very romantic.

We move a third time, she goes to the toilet I get two beers.

We again sit very close, I kiss her a few times more and I perceive some signs of "jumpiness" (don't remember what it was, maybe that she had to get up early).

PULL
So I say "we finish the beer and we go".

We hold hands, but not as BF/GF, more in a "can't wait to be alone way", with pangs of strengths as I was running her hand on my leg/thigh -though she resisted putting it on my penis. Well there were other people sitting around-.

I clearly say "my place", and mention a movie. This is probably the only moment I'm sliightly worried about the interaction derailing, but only slightly. Also by now it would seem incongruent to say "we're going somewhere more private" and playing "hide the obvious".
She weakly says no, but it's pretty much clear it's a weak front.
Then weed comes up and I do have that one, so I also add that there's the best weed in town in my place .

We move and I hold her hand.
On the way towards the taxi she says the reason she said can't come is that she's on her period.
I stop, tell her that's so hot, kiss her and move on.

HOME
Well not much really, she actually said before coming in "just for a movie", guess plausible dependability sometimes run till the very end, but as soon as we walked in it was just steamy passionate kissing and bed right away.

 

[HellAtlantic]

Re: LR - The Love Parade

Curious - was she actually on her period? I always wonder if that's a form of LMR or the truth. Lol

 

[HellAtlantic]

Re: LR - The Love Parade

Just seems weird because not once have I read a LR here where the girl said "I'm on my period" and the poster said "yuck, ok we're not having sex". So it doesn't seem like an effective deterrent if the girl was trying to not have sex. Lots of horny guys out who could care less. I wouldn't wanna see it but in the dark who cares. I'd even give oral to her if I had the opportunity.

 

[lux7]

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Well yeah, at least in this case she was, towards the end though, so just a bit and no spill over at all on the sheets.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

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Just a warning. Most girls, especially liberal western girls, HATE that word. Be careful, that could be a huge turn off to the wrong girl and probably wouldn't help with a girl who didn't mind. In general, I try to stay positive about and upbeat about most everything and be non-judgmental of all the things around me. It could come off as you being very judgmental to the wrong girl and make her uncomfortable opening up sexually to you. Even though you were probably joking, its become fairly taboo to use that word in the US. Although I don't have any experience with truly asain women, so i could be wrong here.

Just a quick note, this can actually be used to your advantage. I used to run some excruciatingly offensive game. Sometimes old habits kick in and I say some really bastardous shit to wake people up from their auto-pilot, but you can actually hate-fuck girls with this type of game.

I would use racial epithets, especially "spic" (because I'm Latino), call people retards, ask to see their chromosome collection (extra 21st chromosome is what causes Down's syndrome), tell people to kill themselves, "go get cancer." I would especially use faggot a lot if I was in a fraternity scene.

I would auto-reject A LOT, but I'd also get big attraction spikes. It's a dangerous game, because if you offend her too much, she'll abort just to save face (she might still be turned on, but of she fucks you and her friends know it, she's shagging the biggest douche in the room; seducing against reputation is difficult). But it's probably the most fun I've had, too. I would get the most feminist, liberal, and psuedo-intellectual bitches to foam at the mouth for a chance to swallow my dick.

Play around with it and see where the boundaries lie. That way, when you transform into genuine game, you'll have the tools to shake bitches out of auto-pilot if they're not playing the game.

- Anatty

 

[lux7]

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lux great report. Sounded like a great time.

I use the word "faggot" here and there to describe the city and the crowd and she really dislikes that, but I think she's faking.

Just a warning. Most girls, especially liberal western girls, HATE that word. Be careful, that could be a huge turn off to the wrong girl and probably wouldn't help with a girl who didn't mind. In general, I try to stay positive about and upbeat about most everything and be non-judgmental of all the things around me. It could come off as you being very judgmental to the wrong girl and make her uncomfortable opening up sexually to you. Even though you were probably joking, its become fairly taboo to use that word in the US. Although I don't have any experience with truly asain women, so i could be wrong here.

By now we're connected good and really open to each other.

We both comment how good it was that we met.

Its great to connect well with a girl. You def sounded like you vibe really well. Thats the funnest pickup.

Funny enough, she tells a story of her sleeping with her boss and then adds "I'm a bitch, now you know".
I think I should tell her she's not a bitch just because she slept with a few guys, but then again, an admission of bitchiness is almost like giving in and admitting we're gonna sleep together, so fuck it, I take that rather than proving myself as the "non judgy type" by telling her there's nothing bitchy about it .

I think you made the right move here. Sometimes its better to just nod and have body language that says you're not worried about something like that. It sounds like it was a shit test for her to bring up a guy she's slept with and say she's a bitch and you just rose above it and that did exactly what you wanted it to do. Good job.

Radeng

True radeng, "faggot" is super strong, I should have probably made it clear it was not in a spiteful "I hate them cock suckers" way.
And I think you're right, it hurts (many) more times than it helps.
Not advocating its use, but to be honest can see a few occasions where it might help though: not just and probably not much the super conservative ones -girls just aren't homophobic on average-, but some girls might think it's very mannish that you completely reject the homosexual world to the point of finding it disgusting... And that you're self assured enough to actually use words that are so un-PC.

Edit:
Also I think it's different if it comes from a guy who's clearly caveman-style, from whom you feel he expects you to stay at home and never look at other guys or he'll stone you to death together with his brothers, and when it comes from a well groomed guy who appears to be beyond the whole homophobia thing.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

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If you ever do want to use offensive game, here's a solution.

Use "faggot" if you wish, but then also, do something extremely homoerotic. When I was out at my college bars, I'd smack my friend's asses, grab their crotch outside their pants, sit on their laps, etc. But at the same time, I'd be saying things like "hey faggot" or "what are you a homo or something?" This causes a lot of confusion with girls and confusion = interest, a lot of times. Also, it shows that you're not afraid to break social boundaries, but you're quite obviously not a hateful person.

Some of the best players I've ever met were super-macho guys who clearly did not like anything homoerotic (however, they would slap each other's asses, because they usually all came from football backgrounds). Being ultra-manly is attractive to women for a host of reasons i shouldn't have to explain.

BUT, I consider their homophobia to be a small but crucial weakness in their game.

1. When you don't open yourself up to understanding homoeroticism, you are inhibiting yourself from understanding female sexuality. This is something I plan on writing an article on, but it's one of the hidden secrets of game that I've only seen Chase talk about (the rest of the PUA/manosphere is ultra-homophobic and they're just hurting themselves from it). Some of the best game I've seen has been run by gay guys.

2. Who's more dominant? The ultra-manly straight guy who will fuck all the girls in the room, or the ultra-manly bisexual guy who will fuck all the girls in the room AND bend the boys over, too. I've actually out-dominated some pretty big dudes by getting a bit gay with them and making them uncomfortable. When you get homoerotic with a dude and he gets offended, so long as he doesn't beat your ass, you're actually dominating him, because he's afraid of your sexuality. When I write my Brotherhood Series, I'll go more into detail on this. Conversely, I've had guys from all walks of life say they want to fuck me, kiss me, etc. Most of the time they're obviously joking, but sometimes they've done it while blackout drunk and I'm pretty sure that if I made-out with them, they'd be down for it. And if a dude is attracted to you, he's somewhat submitting to you.

I apologize for the digression, but this is a very interesting but never-talked-about subject in seduction. You would do well to explore it.

- Anatty

 

[lux7]

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Yeah it's a very interesting topic that would deserve its own place.

I would have no idea how to use it to dominate other boys -that sounds high risk BTW - and I'd be wary of the mindset of having to dominate all the boys around you as you might be labeled as petty/too aggressive by the bystanders if you pick all the fights, but I can think of more than one occasion a girl was attracted to either me or someone else because she thought I/the other was gay and lost a lot of interest after finding out it was just plain straight-dom.

Androgyny / bisexual (Bowie) /not fully blossomed (young di Caprio, Justin Bieber) stars have a huge hysteric female fanbase, though sometimes it tends to cater to the younger crowd (but that can be a plus as well ).

 

[trashKENNUT]

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lux7, Anatman, all,

Being a 'cock teaser' (don't know if that is the correct term) is one layman's way of putting this. You know how girls tease guys with the tongue kind of stuff. I used 'gay/pervertic/looks crazy' mood at times and it makes women at ease because as one noted, it feels like it is part of a tribe/part of a clan (now that i think about it. might be true or not true). I think you should try small things first. You don't eliminate things straightaway but I have a few links. You might want to try this on girls.

This can be fun.

Smacking asses by Anatman is one way. but yea check this video out. You can do this on guys as well. They will laugh. Ultimately, it is a tension killer. a weapon. Snapping people out of autopilot and going into a bad (not so good emotion) direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhuYIr1J1zc

p.s: Don't do this (gay/cock tease sentiments) the wrong way/on girls who clearly does not like you.... or you will have a negative experience.

Zac

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

Re: LR - The Love Parade

Yeah it's a very interesting topic that would deserve its own place.

I would have no idea how to use it to dominate other boys -that sounds high risk BTW - and I'd be wary of the mindset of having to dominate all the boys around you as you might be labeled as petty/too aggressive by the bystanders if you pick all the fights, but I can think of more than one occasion a girl was attracted to either me or someone else because she thought I/the other was gay and lost a lot of interest after finding out it was just plain straight-dom.

Androgyny / bisexual (Bowie) /not fully blossomed (young di Caprio, Justin Bieber) stars have a huge hysteric female fanbase, though sometimes it tends to cater to the younger crowd (but that can be a plus as well ).

Oh I'm not suggesting you start shit with other homies. If you're a sexually liquid guy, it'll just happen by circumstance. When someone is oozing sexuality, they are sort of pissing all over the ground, saying "take it if you want it, honies" and other guys can smell it. Those who are threatened will either back down or compete; and when they do compete, don't be afraid to be extra homoerotic.

Also, Androgyny isn't really what you should be going for. You want to LOOK masculine and BE masculine, but also show that you understand female sexuality and can turn guys on, too. But this is super advanced stuff. I'll go more into with my articles.

- Anatty

 

[lux7]

Re: LR - The Love Parade

Yeah it's a very interesting topic that would deserve its own place.

I would have no idea how to use it to dominate other boys -that sounds high risk BTW - and I'd be wary of the mindset of having to dominate all the boys around you as you might be labeled as petty/too aggressive by the bystanders if you pick all the fights, but I can think of more than one occasion a girl was attracted to either me or someone else because she thought I/the other was gay and lost a lot of interest after finding out it was just plain straight-dom.

Androgyny / bisexual (Bowie) /not fully blossomed (young di Caprio, Justin Bieber) stars have a huge hysteric female fanbase, though sometimes it tends to cater to the younger crowd (but that can be a plus as well ).

Oh I'm not suggesting you start shit with other homies. If you're a sexually liquid guy, it'll just happen by circumstance. When someone is oozing sexuality, they are sort of pissing all over the ground, saying "take it if you want it, honies" and other guys can smell it. Those who are threatened will either back down or compete; and when they do compete, don't be afraid to be extra homoerotic.

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Ja, I get what you mean now, I've seen guys doing that often indeed, thought in most cases they were very "caveman" style and was a bit too much for some women -at least on a facade level-.

 

[lux7]

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I've gotta plus one everything anatman is laying out here.

You have to realize that psychologically, homoeroticism shows massive massive self comfort. However, that doesn't mean act feminine in any way. It's a type of dominant homoeroticism that is effective for attraction.

Agree, wasn't advocating to act feminine, just saying that EVEN feminine looking boys can be very attractive, though catering to a bit of a younger crowd.

It's like Chase said; inexperienced guys should polarize way more in order to learn faster. I totally agree, even tho there's a big awkward phase, followed by a jerk dominant phase that may last a pretty long time since this phase is when you start getting massive and addictive attraction left and right. I think every good seducer should experience the jerk phase for a while and always be just a tad bit arrogant. Being a jerk gets emotionally draining after a while. I prefer being a way nicer guy now that just gives good feelings to everyone. But strong personal boundaries and the ability to give firm nos is key to being a nice guy seducer.

Ah fuck it idk why I'm trying to explain the shit, Just read the genuine man series over and over til you get it
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Yeah, been thinking about that polarizing/jerk thing a LOT actually, still didn't come to the right conclusion on whether it's right at this point for me or not, both because I'm not even sure whether or not I was a jerk (been told I was more than once, but never went to the kind of extremes of calling people retards in their faces , for a learning/level kind of thing and for lifestyle: I'm not doing much night game, and with a job and social circle it's difficult. Also it would work wonder for a teen/20 something, but a 30+ guy still acting like a jerk outside of night venues has a much different feel to it if you know what I mean.