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Bigjo

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I don't know if this mindset is correct or not and I think its wrong which is why maybe I am asking you to give your opinion


After being betrayed by your friend, realising that not all your freinds are your well wishers. That in my 23 years of life, anyone who says is doing good for you or your society doesn't have the best interest at your heart.


After being treated like shit by your own mentor, not being given the guidance you need but rather discouraged, you start to lose respect for the mentor and you start to lose respect for the world. And even when you are betrayed by your own blood it Hurts the most


My question is when most people are pathetic, when most people are not having the best interest for you, is it really worth learning social skills, trying to hang out with friends make new friends or spend shit ton of time socialising, why climb the ranks of social circle?

Why learn it?


I had probably mentioned this earlier in the forums I have been treated as an outcast..... And I still am.

I go out alone, stand alone in the bar and never have I ever felt so strong, I am sure that I won't be broken by a break up or some other people because now my expectations are lowered even from my mentors, people who I look up to. Been two months I stopped reading GC articles.


I just feel strong with zero friends, heck even ditched out by a guy who has worse social skills than me.


Had approach anxiety and none of the tips helped me none of the mentors helped me out. And now I think I am shifting my focus from rather focusing on getting pussy, climbing the social ranks to working on myself.


I feel strong going out alone, and I know that I can handle anything better. I learnt NOT to worship anyone, I don't get awed by any pretty girl now, (yes I have cut down my porn consumption drastically.... Still improving ). Yes I do regret for being so open to the world but its time to be stoic and dare I say..... Cruel and ruthless, and not smile

So why learn to be nice to people? Why go out meet new people when you know that most of the relationships you have with your mentor, friends, family members are shallow and shit.


Why don't I just work on myself, indulge myself into some art, discipline myself, make money and forget about socialising, being charismatic.


Because the world is fucked up and the message I get clearly from the things I tried to socialise is "FUCK YOU". So why don't I say this to the people as well and fuck them?


Maybe give it a thought and type what you think or maybe not.

PS- I think I am gonna get tattooed with the word outcast on my body
 
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Railer

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I think I am gonna get tattooed with the word outcast on my body

Get "social guy" instead - much funnier when you crush somebody's face and the reports say it was "that social guy"!
 

Railer

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As for your question, the short answer is:

Humans depend on social interaction and you're gonna be miserable without it.

I'm doing it right now. Nobody lives up to my standards, so I ceased communication with the worst "friends" and only respond to the others, not putting out any invites myself. As a result, days are rather dull and you have to be careful with your thoughts to not end up in rumination, nurturing depression.

Prior to this, in game, I put aside whatever a girl threw at me and just kept trying, telling myself: In the end, I'll fuck her, hard, maybe painful, and she'll come begging for more and provide what I need. At some point I'd have two girls in rotation, each visiting once a week, with weekends free for new ones. Delayed gratification; Disabling ego gets you quite some extra lays that would otherwise be lost.

Currently, I already expect stupidity and bad behavior from the outset. I don't believe in attraction-voodoo, but I do get my expectations confirmed.

So, for my part, I now have to find a way out of this negativity. My next best idea is to make female friends. My expectations aren't that high there as they are with guys and friend-zoned girls at least provide a sort of attention that tends to calm my general anger.

Also, after all those previous efforts to better myself, I kind of think I'm entitled to some sort of head-start with girls. Teaching every new girl from zero how great I am should really become obsolete at some point ... It's inefficient (or am I?)

Not sure if the idea of making female friends can work for you - I don't even know if it will work for me - but be aware what you're setting yourself up for in negativity-lane.
 
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Zoro

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One of the most powerful things you can do for yourself is to take what responsibility you can for everything that happens in your life. You always play a role in what happens to you, even if it's only how you react or think about it in the aftermath.

It empowers you by focusing on what you can change, instead of things outside of your control.

Ask yourself what role you are playing in these “betrayals” and “mistreatments”.

Its likely that misunderstandings in expectations play a role.

That means that better communication regarding these things is something you can work on.

Another thing might be unclear or weak boundaries.

Knowing what your own boundaries are is the first step, make sure you yourself are clear on them. Then it is easier to communicate and enforce those boundaries.

Having friends that don't support you or your lifestyle is also a possible issue here.

Making an effort to find high value people (supportive, positive, don’t have baggage, align with your goals and have similar interests) is a worthwhile endeavor.

Sounds like you are having a hard time relating to people, and I know from experience that is very frustrating.

Actually I have experience with all of these issues, and I've had to learn them myself.

Now that I have more realistic expectations, better boundaries, and friends that align with me better, I enjoy socializing much more.

But it requires shaking off victim mentality, taking a difficult path of grow, and opening yourself up to experimenting, trying new things with an open mind.

You're here on a website made for men like you, who want to improve. Take this opportunity to step up and put in the work.

You'll thank yourself.
 
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