I have just ended up reading The Physical Game (PG) by Ozzie and Real Dynamics after two days (jajaja, a total bookworm). There are things that are the same to what Chase has told us: escalate, lead, close, unfazed to women reactions -not rely on reactions but on results-, not focusing on results so we can learn (baby steps, right?), being positive (seeing the good of our night out), etc.
The difference I've seen in PG is that:
• It doesn't teach nothing about fundamentals
• It doesn't teach nothing about deep diving.
• It doesn't teach nothing about making girls talk. Quite contrary, it kinda advocates about you talking as much as you like but with PG
• It kinda relies 100% on pure physical contact : Being constantly physical. Rewarding girls with touching like hugs, high fives, etc.
• No intentional touch to escalate (legs touching hers, your hand touching her back, etc).
• It tells you to focus on the good things on the night out but not to do so on the negative (In Chase Method we are encourage to be positive, but not only for the good things that happen to us in a night out, also to analyze what we do wrong to improve, not to beat us up for the mistakes).
• It teaches to persist but sometimes in a way that feels like really pushy. For example, when using a technique called "The Claw" (in which you just put your arm around her shoulders an grab her on the other side) lots of girls will want to escape from your hold but you must hold her tight and not let her. (in Chase Game we are told to persist but not like grabbing her to the dance floor and just dragging her if she doesn't want to. We persist in a diferent way.)
• It talks about not doing things like direct openers : They list some things you should avoid because they comunicate 'I'm not in your league'. One of the things they mention is telling a girls something like "I like your eyes" which in Chase Game you could really do (a simple direct opener to convey your interest on her from the get go: I had to come here to tell you you have the prettiest eye/most amazing look I have seen all night. Im Diego.)
• It talks about an opener that, to me, it's showing explicit value: Open with whatever passion you have. If you open with your passion, and you sell your passion is great. e.g. "I love surfing. You can't imagine the feeling of being …"
• It also talks about being in a super high energy (depending on the guy) "So much energy, it would drain you to just watch me."
• It also recommends kissing girls in the venues (better not to be near their friends or to isolate her)
For me, it has been a good read. I think I really has good stuff but what I take most of it is the encouraging he brings to just get out there and start doing everything to become a Pick Up master. That's his writing style.
Although I think it was a good read I dont like a lot this style (i have to say i'm pretty sure it do works). The reason is because following those guidelines doesn't make me a sexy man who stands out (first, because of his fundamentals; second, when he talks with women). I just dont see sexy anywhere if I start flipping girls in the air, touching like crazy (no incidental touches) to reward them all the time, showing value upfront, etc. I prefer being a sexy man. Someone that knows how to deep dive, reward by deep diving more (with rewarding questions, and of course, some rewards could be some touch -high five-, sure.), connecting with girls (they will feel connected because they will start to feel I know them, which I will cause they will keep talking), being a good conversationalist, etc.
I would love to hear the opinion of guys who have tried the PG and Chase methods in the field, or anyone that knows more about both.
Cheers!
The difference I've seen in PG is that:
• It doesn't teach nothing about fundamentals
• It doesn't teach nothing about deep diving.
• It doesn't teach nothing about making girls talk. Quite contrary, it kinda advocates about you talking as much as you like but with PG
• It kinda relies 100% on pure physical contact : Being constantly physical. Rewarding girls with touching like hugs, high fives, etc.
• No intentional touch to escalate (legs touching hers, your hand touching her back, etc).
• It tells you to focus on the good things on the night out but not to do so on the negative (In Chase Method we are encourage to be positive, but not only for the good things that happen to us in a night out, also to analyze what we do wrong to improve, not to beat us up for the mistakes).
• It teaches to persist but sometimes in a way that feels like really pushy. For example, when using a technique called "The Claw" (in which you just put your arm around her shoulders an grab her on the other side) lots of girls will want to escape from your hold but you must hold her tight and not let her. (in Chase Game we are told to persist but not like grabbing her to the dance floor and just dragging her if she doesn't want to. We persist in a diferent way.)
• It talks about not doing things like direct openers : They list some things you should avoid because they comunicate 'I'm not in your league'. One of the things they mention is telling a girls something like "I like your eyes" which in Chase Game you could really do (a simple direct opener to convey your interest on her from the get go: I had to come here to tell you you have the prettiest eye/most amazing look I have seen all night. Im Diego.)
• It talks about an opener that, to me, it's showing explicit value: Open with whatever passion you have. If you open with your passion, and you sell your passion is great. e.g. "I love surfing. You can't imagine the feeling of being …"
• It also talks about being in a super high energy (depending on the guy) "So much energy, it would drain you to just watch me."
• It also recommends kissing girls in the venues (better not to be near their friends or to isolate her)
For me, it has been a good read. I think I really has good stuff but what I take most of it is the encouraging he brings to just get out there and start doing everything to become a Pick Up master. That's his writing style.
Although I think it was a good read I dont like a lot this style (i have to say i'm pretty sure it do works). The reason is because following those guidelines doesn't make me a sexy man who stands out (first, because of his fundamentals; second, when he talks with women). I just dont see sexy anywhere if I start flipping girls in the air, touching like crazy (no incidental touches) to reward them all the time, showing value upfront, etc. I prefer being a sexy man. Someone that knows how to deep dive, reward by deep diving more (with rewarding questions, and of course, some rewards could be some touch -high five-, sure.), connecting with girls (they will feel connected because they will start to feel I know them, which I will cause they will keep talking), being a good conversationalist, etc.
I would love to hear the opinion of guys who have tried the PG and Chase methods in the field, or anyone that knows more about both.
Cheers!
