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Ree

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Politics of seduction

One of my field reports was recently deleted....
What was the problem u ask?
Did i fabricate events,did i insult other board members..did i perhaps post not a field report ..but a virus that will upload unto your hard drive and delete evry rihana song in your computer?
No dear student seducer,my crime was far more heinous,with repercusions that would have been much much worse
See i failed to be politically correct in this world of equality and bullshit


Chase amante once said
Girls are silly and cute
He might as well have said...women are dumb and childish...but oh..what an hornets nest such a statement would have caused

I can almost hear...a voice in the crowd..."women are dumb and childish?...what a bitter man
Hm...must have accumulated too many rejects,poor pua,puaing does that to u sometimes"
Well dont throw me into the bitter man bin so quickly just yet

I am averaging one lay a week right now,ok..u think...well whats the fucking problem?

I remeber learning pua...making my fundamentals...and running back to my old neighborhood to fuck all the girls i ever had a crush on...but could never have
 What do u think happened?
Did i
A.fuck them
B.fail
Well on the most part neither of the two happened,see there was a third option that i never knew
...
C.time had been so horrible to them,i did not even desire to fuck them

And here i discovered a great truth
Men are inherently more valuable than women....

Even the one girl who wasnt completely now hideous to me,wasnt girlfreind material,i just one nighted her
And even the girlfreind materials,the most beautiful,smart,savvy girls
Are usually just well behaved babies,well behaved but babies nonetheless..who wil age faster

An offended poster told me,women are not pieces of meat...
I smile,he probably thinks women are made of rose petals ,rare stones and light
,the truth as any biology school teacher will tell u...is women are pieces of meat...infact women are not just pieces of meat,they are inferior pieces of meat
 Most women are only good for fucking and cleaning house...and sometimes ..not even that
  Most articles about managing womans emotions look eerily similar to articles on how to babysit kids,infact not to go too far,but some very striking simlarities can be observed between how to deal with women and how to train your pooch

So whats my point excatly,my point is dont fall for they hype and bullshit..there is no equality...men are inherently superior to women,most women are dumb as shit...cant keep time,cant plan shit...emotional as shit...superstitious..religious...and they age faster than men
 Do not misunderstand me....they are people(albeit inferior),this does not mean that they should be mistreated or hurt,it just means that u are getting a raw deal if you treat them as equals,
A good example is how u look at pets,is ur pet bunny ur equal...?...no....but despite this will u not care for it...and add value to its life?definetely
(unless u eat it,maybe cat would be a better example)
this is even the reason why in most parts of the world,men used to have more than one wife,
 If i am giving a woman me,i expect more than just her in return...beacuse i am more value...is it fair...yes...beacues we are not equals
If i give u a hundred dollar bill is it not fair that u give me ten ten dollar bills,we cant exchange one 100 dollar bill,with a 10 dollar bill
Know this and know this well
man > woman

That being said
Women have votes,and they have influence,and so it is sually unwise to say such things to them,lest u be vilified not just by women,but also by the hordes of men who treat women as equals or worse...as superiors

But what about saying these things to other men....should u say them?
Well,if u are teaching other men,i believe u should,
I say these things not to spite  women,but to illuminate the paths  of men
I say these things in forums i believe only men frequent
 Once u have it in r mind that u are superior to all women and u start looking at them like either children or even like talking pets
 U rarely ever have to deal with approach anxiety
U dont take ego hits after being rejected
Think about it...if u went to a petting zoo,and the goat wont ket u pet it?...will u take a ego hit?.....no...who cares what a goat thinks...
Are women goats....no
But they are not men either

While these views may be faintly inked,implied and insinuated,no article would ever bluntly state things out like i have,not because the writers dont know this....but because the whirlwind of angry letters would quickly turn girlschase into a pariah..so the writers here proceed with caution...this is a business after all
 That being said deleting my lr report was a wrong move,not because i will take an ego hit but because of the rare resource that such reports represent
while they are many people in the net diising women,these r usually bitter people ..saying fuck women..coz they never get to fuck women...writing posts that are overly polite and respectful to women is a good p.r move but poor advice on how a pua should proceed in the pursuit of pussy and happines
  How do u coomunicate that mindstate?
 I hope that gc will value knowledge over political correctness as i continue on this path,posting papers  ..not for praise..pushing the performance of my peers..my only present..
...the politics of seduction ...my only peril.
 

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Ree,

I got my post deleted twice brah.

1)Asking government to hire PUAs to solve real rape situations and not false accusations

2)Writing everything Indian/Nepalese/Bangladash/etc do to other people and how they can improve

Most people do not want truths. This is true for 90% of society out there. Their brains just can't. Secondly, the human consciousness needs an expression. Thus by giving truth, there's nothing to express EXCEPT anger. :)

Zac
 

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My view aligns with Radengs and I think that well I just really love women, and they are different and they have a brilliance of their own that I gain strength from and can learn from and enjoy.

I don't criticize you or feel really negatively in any way towards you though for your view dude; I think there may be potentially other guys who do seduction who share that view you have...

Entitled to your opinion and you said as much so respect that, and you are funny with your dark humor too I think. But I am curious as to how others views are on this topic and who else may happen to agree or disagree with you on all this.

Cheers

Rage
 

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It's not personal, Ree. But even Franco and I had to discuss between ourselves and say, "Yeah, I don't think he raped that girl, but..." And if we're having those discussions, imagine what some young kid who doesn't know his ass from his elbow with girls yet and is looking for a role model to follow is going to think (or do), or some regulator with an agenda to push who's looking for an "in" to get this site permanently shuttered.

You may not care if a post of yours leads some impressionable kid to rape some girl or some regulator to shut us down (though I hope you do care, about both of those things), but fuck man, I don't want that shit on my conscious if it's the first and we don't have the resources to fight it if it's the second. I'm not going to let anything be on the site that I think might lead to either of those things.

At least until you've improved at expressing yourself in written form, please save the rape jokes for posts where you aren't dealing with LMR, and in posts where you're dealing with LMR, make sure you're sharing not just what you did, but how the girl reacted and where you're getting buy-in.

As for your views on women, they're nothing original; it's the same stuff lazy stuff plastered all over the manosphere (and the femosphere: men are inferior, women superior). Can be a result of either hurt feelings or low empathy. I've never met a man who was both emotionally healthy and empathetic who felt the need to say or could even justify saying "men are superior to women". Nor have I met anyone who has these views and possessed much perspective; find me a man who can say with a straight face that man is superior to the arthropod, and I'll show you someone trapped in his own little steel and optical fiber world, living in cities, watching TV, and reading politics on the web, all his perspective gleaned from a civilization that's existed merely a blink of a geological timescale eye.

Chase
 

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Chase,

Why do you think as such? RSD has done "worse". This is not to condone Julien's actions because it is not "society accepted", which is funny because that mayor who smoke crack or ISIS leader isn't the 'most hated person on the planet'.

I guess as we all age, we realize people are just not gonna wake up, so to speak? :(

Zac
 

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Hey Zac-

ZacAdam said:
Why do you think as such? RSD has done "worse". This is not to condone Julien's actions because it is not "society accepted", which is funny because that mayor who smoke crack or ISIS leader isn't the 'most hated person on the planet'.

Like which ones?

Julien I remember had a video where he was pushing women's faces into his crotch. Pretty disrespectful, but an order of magnitude different.

Chase
 
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Haha, the 'Rape Van', I remember that.

Dude, I have no problems with rape jokes by themselves. Rape's at the point where it's gone from meaning 'stranger attacked woman on the side of the street, forced her down at gunpoint, tore her clothes off, and raped her as she kicked and screamed' to 'two people got drunk and had sex and now one of them feels bad'... they'll come up with a new word for it sometime soon because they've nearly burned out the heft of this one.

The one with Owen giving it to the girl dry is a lot more problematic (and note that as soon as they realized it was a lightning rod, they removed it). I think he goes on in the video about how it was this girl he was seeing and she initiated a second session after though, so it ends up being really clear it isn't rape to anyone who isn't trying to take things out of context. Still a pretty iffy thing to publish regardless, and it seems they realized they made a mistake in letting it out there.

Chase
 

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Chase,

Ar okay. I understood. As long you put the words nicely. I can't imagine if we paraphrase everything on the forums. From she was horny and ' i shove my dick in' with something like 'push my meat in paradise'. HAHA!

Hope the world doesn't turn out that way.

Zac
 

Ree

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@zacadam
lol....
@radeng
ever owned a pet?
i have.
i once owned..a bunny...i loved it,cared for it,but i never for one instant think of it as my equal
i do believe men are superior...this does not mean that women should not be allowed to drive,or they should be thrown into a mine
i do care for women,i do love them,however i dont usually look atv them as my equal,just like a bunny
radeng u mentioned that there are some girls who will achieve more than me?maybe smarter than me,maybe even more socialy aware than me(unlikely)...but let me give it a maybe...but let me ask you?
is the israeli army better than the syrian army?
yes it is,israel can kick syrias ass any day of the week,but in the syrian army is their not a special ops guy who is a way better soldgier than a private in the israeli army?
exceptions to the rule do not define or defy the rule
men have larger brains than women,if u dont believe this means they are smarter then do u think mens minds are less efficient,(being bigger without any computational advantage?)
i think superior is way too ambiguos,because i will concede women are superior to men, when it comes to breastfeeding and giving birth
when i say women are inferior i mean
women are usually less intelligent,less logical,more emotional,just hop on to the patents page and see how many things women invented
men are superior
this is the truth,
@chase
men are superior
wether this view is original or not is irelevant,i hold the view that the world is round....a view not very original,but does that mean it is any less true?
it is not a result of hurt feelings,or low empathy
it is not a nice thing to say,and like i said ...it is not something i usually go around saying,
someone hurt would say these things to women,i would veber tell a woman i am superior,i am not bitter
i say it
not to spite women,but to guide men
so that when he is making that approach he is not even putting his ego on the line,
u have taught me a lot of sociology concepts...things i would never have thought of myself...allow me to throw u a concept back,
do u know the diffrence between embarasment and shame ?
there are other distictions but in a nutshell
Embarrassment is the feeling of discomfort experienced when some aspect of ourselves is witnessed by others and we think that this revelation is likely to undermine our image
shame is similar but can be experienced for an act known only to ourselves...in other words u have to have witnesses to be embarassed but u can be ashamed even when u are by urself
...i know what u r thinking...thats interesting...but what the hell does that have to do with anything?
the higher value u view someone as.... the more potential they have to make u feel embarassed..if they witness u do lame shit...
so if someone who is your superior seez u do some damn shit...it.will embarass u more than an equal.seeing u.....and the opposite is true....an inferior can see u do damn shit and it dont phase u..or at least not as much
let me simplify it...let mne clarify,let me color it in with an allegory
lets say i am naked taking a shit...and the door is unlatched
if i am naked taking a shit...and u walk in on me,will i be embarassed?...yes....very..i view u as a superior
but what about if it was ,a toddler who walks in on me,will i be embarsaaed?..yes..probably..but only slightly..right?
lets take it further,what if it was a dog that walked in on me?..it depends on how anthromorphically i view dogs.but.maybe il be emvbaresd a teeny weeny tiny lil bit
...now lets play a scenario where its an ant that walks in on me?...i wont even care...because i dont even view it as human...true ..the dog wasnt human either..but an ant is less human than a dog....meaning it is my inferor..it is so small its not even on my radar..
now i have found dehumanizing women,viewing them as an inferior sub humnan class results in me not ever being embarassed around them
tgheir is a big world of differnce between the bitter man,trying to hurt women beacuse the have hurt him...and someone like me...someone who believes from the bottom of his heart to the heart of his bottom,that he is superior....i cant take ego hits from women,because like i said...if u went to a petting zoo and the goat wont let u pet it?
would u be offended?
u can be ashamed
because he is talking to a creature that is not even an equal,human are only embarassed when
because the less equa
imagine u are naked
 

Ree

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radeng said:
Ree,

I do see how your POV works and how it benefits you. Totally I get it. You devalue women to the point of seeing them non-human so you can't be embarrassed or ashamed by them. It's a valid strategy.

However, you really have little to argue on here. There's plenty to debate on this topic and it would not be beneficial to debate this here, nor do I care to. All the examples of how men are better than women are anecdotal and can largely be explained in rational ways.

Also, it's just a statistical average example. Everything happens on a spectrum. "Men are superior to women" is really a statement that means very little. Even if you narrow it down to intelligence there is really no valid way to qualify or quantify your statement. Only anecdotes which can largely be explained and do not necessarily signify greater intelligence among men, your patent example is one of them. It really doesn't mean anything that men have more patents than women other than men file for more patents than women.

I do believe men and women are significantly different and I don't want to go into my views on feminism or any of that, but I don't believe they are good at the same things. And maybe you could argue that men are superior in the more important survival abilities or even say ability to learn fast. That doesn't really have much meaning tho.

For me personally, there have been certain women that have brought great benefit to my life and shown me things and taught me more about myself and the way I view the world was shaped by them. It was an amazing experience being with them and learning about them. If I viewed them as pets, or as insignificant as a pet, then no I guess I couldn't be embarrassed by them, but my life would also not have been able to be so incredibly enhanced by them.

Some of these women I knew over a long period others only for fleeting moments. However my view of them allowed me to learn from them and grow with and from them and for that, I consider them equal to me, but different from me. Sure I was probably better at math than my ex and she was "cute and silly" but she taught me how compassion and altruism can help bring more fulfillment than material items. And yes, for instance, I was recently hurt by a girl who I felt was quite the gem, and she had some stupid as fuck beliefs, but she was a passionate go getter who inspired me to be better.

I could have easily dismissed her as a cat/pet like creature and purely enjoyed her beauty and sex and completely dismissed her intellect and ambition as worthless and inferior to mine, however I would have also missed out on the real experience that made my time with her worthwhile. I wouldn't have gotten hurt by her, but I think I would rather be vulnerable to that pain than miss the opportunity to learn about myself and about her and what makes the world go round.

In fact she would have probably rather me have treated and view her in that way. But nevertheless I learned and grew from the experience.

I don't need to view women in that way to protect myself. I have learned to value myself above others and deal with my emotions as they come. I don't feel a lot of embarrassment from rejection because I have learned that it reflects on me very little and getting rejected is only beneficial so I am rarely hurt by it. It's not because I view the rejector as significantly below me or whatever.

I think because I allow myself to remain vulnerable and open in this way, my experience in life is greatly enhanced. I have went through periods when I viewed the world and women in the way you are describing and to me that view only served to protect my ego and emotions. It did that very well, but it was very sterile and unfulfilling in itself.

That is the reason I believe this view comes from a bitter dark place. It doesn't allow you to experience the emotional well being that comes from allowing yourself to be vulnerable to a woman. Personally, my moments of greatest vulnerability have lead to my biggest growths in life.

The moments where I viewed women as inferior beings don't stand out much in my mind.

Hence, my relationships are enhanced by viewing women as the other half to the whole of my human experience.

I imagine it is not a concept that is easy to grasp if you have not felt it or if you are naturally a low empathy person.

Radeng

Edit: I should also note that abundance allows you to experience women in the way I described without getting caught up on them if they don't feel the same about you. It's difference in viewing all women as inferior, and therefore not avble to get to you vs viewing women as amazing or wonderful but abundant and therefore nothing to fret over for significant periods. Abundance to me means that's it's totally fine to get hurt by a woman as an equal because there are other women who can offer similar things to your life.

I hope you do find a woman who means more to you than a pet! If not tho, like I said, I don't judge you as long as you are happy and finding fulfillment that you want within your own world view.

Hm..maybe i am low empathy...but these thing once learnt cant be unlearnt...i honest from the bottom of my heart that women are inferior...lol...
 

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Empathy is a learnable skill.
Also, other than what Radeng mentioned...that your view of women is clearly a way to protect yourself from hurt and rejection, you might hold this view because you are or at least view yourself as more intelligent than the demographic you're pursuing.

If you'd like to prove yourself wrong, go where intelligent women gather. Maybe a University with a graduate program.
Or conversely, try approaching some men in the same area where you approach women rn. Obviously not with the goal of seducing them. Just to talk to them. I bet they won't be too much more intelligent than the women you talk to. In fact, I'm 100% sure that if you talk to guys in the same age range as the girls you approach, you'll find that they're usually way stupider than their female counterparts.
 

Ree

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Bboy100 said:
Empathy is a learnable skill.
Also, other than what Radeng mentioned...that your view of women is clearly a way to protect yourself from hurt and rejection, you might hold this view because you are or at least view yourself as more intelligent than the demographic you're pursuing.

If you'd like to prove yourself wrong, go where intelligent women gather. Maybe a University with a graduate program.
Or conversely, try approaching some men in the same area where you approach women rn. Obviously not with the goal of seducing them. Just to talk to them. I bet they won't be too much more intelligent than the women you talk to. In fact, I'm 100% sure that if you talk to guys in the same age range as the girls you approach, you'll find that they're usually way stupider than their female counterparts.

True...actually approached..men..sigh..the things i do for science...most men are just as dumb and emotional as their female counterparts...however that being said most smart people are men?..heads of departments...enginerrs,architects..etc
 
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