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I'm on the verge of tears right now thinking about this. This was pure fucking gold panty peeling game up until I rejected the escalation window for now fucking reason....
Like the quality and pure amazing perfection of opportunity I was manufactured last night only for me to throw it away completely down the drain.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously fucking crying right now.
Here's what happened...
The venue is a premier upscale lounge that has house music Monday's and attracts quite a large crowd of people for a Monday. It also attracts higher caliber people, for the most part, and higher caliber and hotter women.
A buddy and I went out there last night and had some good fun and interactions.
After meeting about 8 girls and having some fun interactions but we're not willing to move with me (including the hottest girl in the club who was initially into me and probably the hottest girl I've approached perhaps ever, but I took a misstep within the first few minutes of meeting her and made her auto-reject) I was talking with my buddy and a dude we met.
There are girls walking past and the dude we just met dropping typical kooky "make a comment about how the hot girl that just walked past eyed me but I'm not going to approach her in a million years because I'm a pussy" comment that inexperienced guys say to make them seem like they get girls.
2/3rds of the venue is outside on the rooftop of the main convention center in the city and there are VIP sections in the middle of the outside with ledges around them you can sit on if your not VIP.
I notice two girls, one particularly cute (albeit not dressed to the nines like most girls) dressed in jeans, and a casual T-shirt. Her friend is sub-par and there's a dude with them that appears to be with one of the girls but not with the girl I'm interested in.
I go straight in and open her.
My shtick for the night was to pretend I'm a high class business man and pretend I'm super arrogant because I think it's funny to mock the stereotype.
Now a quick side note. Some of you guys read that and probably think "too entertainer" but it's merely self-amusement and it serves 2 important purposes.
1. I'm doing what makes me laugh and improves my state and pulls her into my "fun" world.
2. It communicates non-neediness. It's a pretty outlandish thing to talk about within the first minute of meeting someone and most guys would never do that in fear of risking the girl not thinking it's cool/funny. However by pretending to be an obnoxious arrogant business man I communicate I don't need her at all whatsoever, which is attractive.
I don't stay on this topic long and I quickly shift gears and get her telling me about herself and qualifying herself to me. I then soon meet her friends who are scoping out our conversation and they are cool with everything so we get back to 1 on 1 interaction.
We get to the point where she's definitely hooked and investing into me and we, as a group, decide to go inside and grab a seat before the bar closes.
I pull my girl off away from the group and we're bantering and talking about things. She tells me she likes my hair and balls. She tells me how lonely she was and how she's had 6 guys look at her tonight but not one came over and talked to her. Then she finds out I'm sober and drinking water and she just totally is in love.
Opting Out
My body literally hurts right now and I twinge in pain every couple of minutes as I write this. This is just brutally fucking ridiculous how poor my decision making was in this situation.
So now the bar is closing and the friends come over and say "okay we're about to go". I want to get a number in case things fall through and then try to pull from there.
The friends give us a minute to sort things out between us and I get her to put her number in my phone and we have a short small kiss, but I can tell she wants MORE.
She makes a comment about having to work in the morning and I know that I have to get up early for a school event and will be underslept as it is so I simply agree to finish our conversation later in the week.
My thinking at that point in time was simply that she's into me and we can just pick things back up where we left off without having to deal with poor logistics (driving 30 minutes away, convincing her friends to come with me, and dealing with objections). No problem right? It'll be better that way!
WRONG.
She was primed and fucking ready to go. She was ready for me to pull her back and dominate her right then and there. The escalation window was WIDE WIDE fucking open and I figured it'd just stay open for the rest of the time being.
So the friends come back and their leaving so I go to bid her farewell. In retrospect it would've been really easy to convince her to leave with me or tag along with her friends (the guy friend was super alpha and liked me a lot and would've helped me get with her I know).
But I had it stuck in my mind that we could just meet up with better logistics and pick up where we left off. So without really thinking much of it I let her go and kissed her goodbye.
I sent an ice breaker text and here is the conversation that ensued:
No response.
It didn't hit me that I fucked up until an hour after I texted her did I put two and two together and realize I totally missed the escalation window and did not strike while the iron was burning WHITE hot.
Probably just going to chalk this up as a massive failure to realize what's the fucks going on and account for escalation windows but this should not have happened. I don't know why I did this either because I'm usually great about pushing hot interactions for the close. I just wasn't thinking it would be a big deal.
Perhaps their is a way to turn this around? Any suggestions?
I'm going to text her again tomorrow a basic conversation ping but I have low doubts of this working out.
The only thing I can really bet on is her just liking me enough to want to meet up again despite a sort of "failed escalation" almost.
Suggestions guys?
My goal before the end of the year is to get to where I can lay one new girl a week given I meet enough women and this should've been in the bag.
Seriously in agony right now.
Keep it pimpin
-Rob
Like the quality and pure amazing perfection of opportunity I was manufactured last night only for me to throw it away completely down the drain.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously fucking crying right now.
Here's what happened...
The venue is a premier upscale lounge that has house music Monday's and attracts quite a large crowd of people for a Monday. It also attracts higher caliber people, for the most part, and higher caliber and hotter women.
A buddy and I went out there last night and had some good fun and interactions.
After meeting about 8 girls and having some fun interactions but we're not willing to move with me (including the hottest girl in the club who was initially into me and probably the hottest girl I've approached perhaps ever, but I took a misstep within the first few minutes of meeting her and made her auto-reject) I was talking with my buddy and a dude we met.
There are girls walking past and the dude we just met dropping typical kooky "make a comment about how the hot girl that just walked past eyed me but I'm not going to approach her in a million years because I'm a pussy" comment that inexperienced guys say to make them seem like they get girls.
2/3rds of the venue is outside on the rooftop of the main convention center in the city and there are VIP sections in the middle of the outside with ledges around them you can sit on if your not VIP.
I notice two girls, one particularly cute (albeit not dressed to the nines like most girls) dressed in jeans, and a casual T-shirt. Her friend is sub-par and there's a dude with them that appears to be with one of the girls but not with the girl I'm interested in.
I go straight in and open her.
My shtick for the night was to pretend I'm a high class business man and pretend I'm super arrogant because I think it's funny to mock the stereotype.
Me: (soon after opening her) Yes I'm in the big leagues in the business world. I'm a big time investment banker from New York I just flew in on my private jet. You probably read about in the Wall Street Journal.. in the Business section. They're always doing articles about my net worth as I'm sure you've read about.
Her: How much is your net worth? (not knowing whether to take me seriously or not)
Me: A couple thousand dollars
Her: hahahaha
Now a quick side note. Some of you guys read that and probably think "too entertainer" but it's merely self-amusement and it serves 2 important purposes.
1. I'm doing what makes me laugh and improves my state and pulls her into my "fun" world.
2. It communicates non-neediness. It's a pretty outlandish thing to talk about within the first minute of meeting someone and most guys would never do that in fear of risking the girl not thinking it's cool/funny. However by pretending to be an obnoxious arrogant business man I communicate I don't need her at all whatsoever, which is attractive.
I don't stay on this topic long and I quickly shift gears and get her telling me about herself and qualifying herself to me. I then soon meet her friends who are scoping out our conversation and they are cool with everything so we get back to 1 on 1 interaction.
We get to the point where she's definitely hooked and investing into me and we, as a group, decide to go inside and grab a seat before the bar closes.
I pull my girl off away from the group and we're bantering and talking about things. She tells me she likes my hair and balls. She tells me how lonely she was and how she's had 6 guys look at her tonight but not one came over and talked to her. Then she finds out I'm sober and drinking water and she just totally is in love.
Opting Out
My body literally hurts right now and I twinge in pain every couple of minutes as I write this. This is just brutally fucking ridiculous how poor my decision making was in this situation.
So now the bar is closing and the friends come over and say "okay we're about to go". I want to get a number in case things fall through and then try to pull from there.
The friends give us a minute to sort things out between us and I get her to put her number in my phone and we have a short small kiss, but I can tell she wants MORE.
She makes a comment about having to work in the morning and I know that I have to get up early for a school event and will be underslept as it is so I simply agree to finish our conversation later in the week.
My thinking at that point in time was simply that she's into me and we can just pick things back up where we left off without having to deal with poor logistics (driving 30 minutes away, convincing her friends to come with me, and dealing with objections). No problem right? It'll be better that way!
WRONG.
She was primed and fucking ready to go. She was ready for me to pull her back and dominate her right then and there. The escalation window was WIDE WIDE fucking open and I figured it'd just stay open for the rest of the time being.
So the friends come back and their leaving so I go to bid her farewell. In retrospect it would've been really easy to convince her to leave with me or tag along with her friends (the guy friend was super alpha and liked me a lot and would've helped me get with her I know).
But I had it stuck in my mind that we could just meet up with better logistics and pick up where we left off. So without really thinking much of it I let her go and kissed her goodbye.
I sent an ice breaker text and here is the conversation that ensued:
Me: Hello Miss X
Her: Saved
Her: So now what do we do? (Red Flag saying she didn't want me to leave?)
Me: (not fully interpreting this as what I think it was I say) How close do you live to Tanner Road?
Her: I don't even know where that is LOL
Me: (I fall asleep and wake up the next morning) They have a cool health drink spot close to Tanner. We're going to check it out.. when are you free coming up?
No response.
It didn't hit me that I fucked up until an hour after I texted her did I put two and two together and realize I totally missed the escalation window and did not strike while the iron was burning WHITE hot.
Probably just going to chalk this up as a massive failure to realize what's the fucks going on and account for escalation windows but this should not have happened. I don't know why I did this either because I'm usually great about pushing hot interactions for the close. I just wasn't thinking it would be a big deal.
Perhaps their is a way to turn this around? Any suggestions?
I'm going to text her again tomorrow a basic conversation ping but I have low doubts of this working out.
The only thing I can really bet on is her just liking me enough to want to meet up again despite a sort of "failed escalation" almost.
Suggestions guys?
My goal before the end of the year is to get to where I can lay one new girl a week given I meet enough women and this should've been in the bag.
Seriously in agony right now.
Keep it pimpin
-Rob
