Times PUA tactics backfired on you

[Dash of Englishness]

Just to make it clear, I'm not saying that PUA are not worth learning as a whole, but there will still probably be times when you try a gimmick that doesn't suit you. If anyone wants to share an experience where you tried to apply techniques only to find that they didn't work, then please do.

Before one incorporates PUA tactics properly into their personality, there will be times when they prove counter-productive. Not knocking PUA here. Without PUA a lot of guys wouldn't have even got that chance to mess up, as it is often PUA that inspires them to go out and get women.

Thanks

 

[James D]

Assuming you're trying out tactics that are not totally incongruent with your personality (super talkative guy who tries to be the silent, mysterious guy for instance) then the other reason a tactic can backfire is if your timing is off.

If that's so, the issue is with timing, not the tactic.

That's why field practice is the only way to learn and assimilate those teachings.

Yep, I have many instances of my timing being off.

thats how we learn

 

[Chase]

+1 to @James D.

Certainly you may have times you try to force things in at the wrong time or in an uncalibrated way because you are thinking, "I have to do X!" or "I need to say Y!"

It's all timing or calibration issues, though.

When I first found the seduction community I went through a stretch where I thought I needed to have these structured pickups. So when girls would try to skip around some of the steps I'd go blank. Ran into some girl from social circle at the bar and suddenly she's feeling up my chest, telling me I'm handsome? "Uh, wait, I haven't gone through my early conversation material with her yet..."

You sort out these kinks as you go and run into issues like this less and less, where you're either forcing something that doesn't fit or freezing up because something's happening "out of order."

Instead, you just get smoother, more natural, and your game becomes increasingly responsive.

Chase

 

[ulrich]

I have a word for you: NEGS

Th single most overused, poorly understood concept in PUA there is.

 

[King Indra]

I have a word for you: NEGS

Th single most overused, poorly understood concept in PUA there is.

Agreed. I have seen and heard so many fellas saying they 'negged' a woman when realistically, what they did was lob a mild insult in response to a rejection/cold reception/etc.

This term got abused to the point where it's even getting flagged as a dangerous sign of our 'misogyny' in mainstream circles.