To wing or not to wing

[Lotus]

Radeng,

It's interesting you say, "have pretty solid game in general" because those are pretty basic social rules that even my friends who have no interest in game understand.

People that are judgemental and rude are no fun to be around whether they are interested in pick up or not. I place higher value on that than whether my wing has any game or not. If they approach girls but aren't socially calibrated in the ways you mention I don't see how you can possible manage to pull.

Just my thoughts

 

[Drck]

What are you gaining by having a wing, and what are you losing? All I see that you are losing, you didn't gain anything. Cut your loses, rely on yourself only...

 

[Richard]

Wings suck.

Solo game is the great way to improve.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Wings suck.

Disagree here.

I've done A LOT of solo game and I do agree that it's a great way to improve and everyone should do solo game (especially if you're in the day time and not hitting up night time venues).

However going out with a wing (hard to find a good one) can be one of the best learning experiences and motivators you can get.

Plus if you're doing a lot of nightgame it can be taxing on your will power to build up and sustain that higher energy "fun" state by yourself. (even if you're a low energy guy you still need higher energy to deal with loud venues, friends, short attention spans, etc)

Won't stop interrupting my girl and i
-won't stop hitting me up to come find me if I leave them
-try to wing by talking me up to my girl instead of letting me isolate
-get mad if I pull and don't bring them
-judgemental of bad approaches

All these things you list about your wings/friends are absolutely garbage in my opinion (thats my value system though). These are all low status needy behaviors and sound highly annoying.

The last wing/friend I went out with would interrupt my interactions just to see if he could pull the girl from me to test my abilities to handle cock blocks (we would do it to each other for fun) but it was out of fun not lack of social IQ.

Getting mad if you pull and don't bring them? What the fuck is this shit? Do they want to masturbate while watching you guys have sex hahah.

Idk man if it were me my value system wouldn't allow me to go out and pick up with these guys based on what you wrote about them but if they still gave me value in some other way (some other common interest) I'd just do that thing with them.

However you have a different value system than me and that stuff may not bother you. But as far as their behaviors being conducive to you learning seduction it doesn't sound like they fit the bill.

I'd go out solo and meet cooler hombre's.

My 2 cents

good luck

-Rob