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Too high value?

Suave

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I have been working on my fundamentals for quite some time . Also have been hitting the gym for quite a while.

I have eye contact, walk and voice down already, my body is in good shape and I do have a good hairstyle which balances my faces' proportions well. Facial hair? Check. Fashion? Check. 6' height? Check.

I've been going out recently and I suddenly started noticing something, more married women check me out than the girls of my age, I am 17. It doesn't seem to be 'just noticing' because I have seen them steal glances and stuff! This never happened to me before, like, NEVER!

Should I go chat one up? Any tips? Damn I am excited about this!

Also, might this be because of too much value? Like, only older, more experienced women consider me? Others think I'm out of there league? What's going on here?
 

ray_zorse

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I've experienced something of this nature, and I've solved it by adopting a more attainable clothing style.

My normal outfit would be, chestnut boots, white cords from Uniqlo, red checked shirt from Tarocash and a suit jacket... but if instead I wear black boots, faded jeans, a beat-up khaki shirt I bought for $15 from Target, and a leather biker jacket, I get a lot more women checking me out. However, the latter outfit is pretty downmarket and needs to be balanced... sharp as fuck hairstyle, plenty of jewellery, cologne, and about half the time I wear a white dress shirt under the jacket to lift it up.

Anyway, it does not really matter since you should be approaching the women you want to talk to, and making it happen. You don't need to wait for them to check you out. (If you want them to, wear eye makeup as I have been doing lately :) )

-Ray
 

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ray_zorse said:
I've experienced something of this nature, and I've solved it by adopting a more attainable clothing style.

My normal outfit would be, chestnut boots, white cords from Uniqlo, red checked shirt from Tarocash and a suit jacket... but if instead I wear black boots, faded jeans, a beat-up khaki shirt I bought for $15 from Target, and a leather biker jacket, I get a lot more women checking me out. However, the latter outfit is pretty downmarket and needs to be balanced... sharp as fuck hairstyle, plenty of jewellery, cologne, and about half the time I wear a white dress shirt under the jacket to lift it up.

Anyway, it does not really matter since you should be approaching the women you want to talk to, and making it happen. You don't need to wait for them to check you out. (If you want them to, wear eye makeup as I have been doing lately :) )

-Ray

What kinda eye makeup? Do tell!
 

ray_zorse

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This is what I used as a guideline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLnKtPVpofM
However, my style is a bit more out-there... I have two basic methods, if I'm wearing green or blue colours then I do green around, blue eyelid, and glitter highlights... this looks incredible. If I'm wearing more earthy colours I do yellow-brown around, red-brown eyelid and silver highlights... this is more subtle and I think looks better for the daytime. Today is the latter, and a lot of girls checked me out on the tram (one looked a bit freaked), although I didn't approach them cos I had my eye on a little fresher Chinese student reading a Harry Potter book, who turned out to be quite nice and friendly, though I didn't get a date.
-Ray
 
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Wait, wait, wait..... you guys put eye make-up on your face?!! Isn't that so feminine?

Do i have a wrong viewpoint about that?

Please, tell me more about this.
 

Estate

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Personal opinion here...

The idea of "too much value" sounds so overly cocky and PUA-y. If you're a cool and well put together guy, people will appreciate you.
When people (often even women) say things like "I was too good for that person anyway" it usually comes from a needy place or a point of rejection. I'd drop that idea.

Now, to the point. It could well be due to you style, your fundamentals or a vibe you give off.

Just as a personal example. I tend to have a much more "European" style than most guys in my city. It's a real, t-shirt and shorts type of place.
Now, we've all seen the countless "I can't talk to blondes" threads. Basically, a guy can go talk to a "regular" girl in their perception but see the blonde as being "too hot".
The same holds true with women. I don't get women starting conversations with me very much when I'm out in my work dress or dressed up a lot... it's my style though so...
On the other hand, on occasion I've gone out pretty casual and have women starting conversations with me. A couple of weeks ago I went down to a local bar to watch the Bruins game by myself to chill. My hair was a mess, I was wearing my glasses and a baggy lumberjack kinda shirt. A girl saw we sitting alone and sent a shot over, then after some chat offered her number to me.
I NEVER get this when dressed up... sounds weird right?

Well, that could be the thing. If you look like you've got you stuff together then maybe an older or more confident woman will be more likely to engage you. Either you're giving off a much older vibe and 17-18 year old girls are not into it or else you seem unapproachable.
 

Suave

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Estate said:
Personal opinion here...

The idea of "too much value" sounds so overly cocky and PUA-y. If you're a cool and well put together guy, people will appreciate you.
When people (often even women) say things like "I was too good for that person anyway" it usually comes from a needy place or a point of rejection. I'd drop that idea.

Now, to the point. It could well be due to you style, your fundamentals or a vibe you give off.

Just as a personal example. I tend to have a much more "European" style than most guys in my city. It's a real, t-shirt and shorts type of place.
Now, we've all seen the countless "I can't talk to blondes" threads. Basically, a guy can go talk to a "regular" girl in their perception but see the blonde as being "too hot".
The same holds true with women. I don't get women starting conversations with me very much when I'm out in my work dress or dressed up a lot... it's my style though so...
On the other hand, on occasion I've gone out pretty casual and have women starting conversations with me. A couple of weeks ago I went down to a local bar to watch the Bruins game by myself to chill. My hair was a mess, I was wearing my glasses and a baggy lumberjack kinda shirt. A girl saw we sitting alone and sent a shot over, then after some chat offered her number to me.
I NEVER get this when dressed up... sounds weird right?

Well, that could be the thing. If you look like you've got you stuff together then maybe an older or more confident woman will be more likely to engage you. Either you're giving off a much older vibe and 17-18 year old girls are not into it or else you seem unapproachable.

That's exactly what I was talking about. Yeah. I'll try dress down a little bit and go out sometime to try and find this one out. Ty.
 
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