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Bboy100

Cro-Magnon Man
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Ok, so after a two month hiatus from dating, I've started going hard via Tinder, cold approaches at parties, and warm approaching girls from my classes. I was never all that good at interactions prior to being on the date to begin with, so it only makes sense that I'm still struggling. However, in terms of Tinder dates, something has changed...I used to have a very easy time attracting girls. Problems I had came later in my process. Now, for some reason, these girls are blowing me off left and right. In light of this, I've decided I'm going to start writing FRs again so I can get some feedback (unless my mistake is painfully obvious to me). This is the last of my 3 (very painful)Tinder dates this week:

I walk into the Coffee shop, and greet her with a big hug. I was pretty high energy that day, which is actually good. Most my successful seductions seem to start out that way. We order our coffee, then I lead her to one of the tables. She seemed pretty nervous at first, but she warmed up to me pretty quickly.

The whole date was all of 30 mins. I was mostly leading the conversation. I asked her about:
- Her major
- Her hobbies/interests
- Her family
- Where she's from
- Where she wants to travel to
- Her childhood
- Her opinion of the school.
-TV shows we watch

Also, I playfully teased her all throughout the conversation as per usual. But just so you guys can correct me if I'm using the wrong type of humor (i.e. it should be witty, not clownish), here's an example:

Her:[Talks about her major and the bio club she's in] ...So yeah, I do a lot of Biology stuff, I'm kind of a nerd.
Me: Yeah...I could totally see you being in the next Season of the Big Bang Theory!

She was giggling like a schoolgirl the whole time. She also seemed to welcome touches to the thighs (they didn't even look incidental because I reached all the way across the table...so we both know it was on purpose). So after said 30 minutes passed, I said:

Me: Let's go take a walk
Her: Ok
[We walk outside]
Me: If it's not too chilly out haha
Her: Oh damn...yeah, it is kinda cold
Her: ...Yeah, actually, if its going to be like this (in reference to the cold), I'm going to go home. I had a really good time though! It was nice to meet you.
Me: We can go back inside if you want.
Her: Na, I think I'm going to go home
Me: Ok, well let's hang out again sometime?
Her: Yeah, I'd be down!
Me: Ok, when are you free?
Her: I'm not sure yet...I'll have to check my schedule.
Me: Ok, whats your number? Its probably easier...[She interrupts me] Her: actually, I'll just message it to you on the app
Me: just put it in [I hand her my phone]<---This was actually really bad because I accidentally said it in more of a commanding tone and less of a warm/persistent tone
Her: Oh...ok [puts in her contact info]<---She seemed very taken aback by my persistence.


We hug and split paths.

When I get home, I text her "Hey, this is my number :)

I get no response.

My analysis: I'm aware that I messed up towards the end when she unexpectedly decided to leave. It totally wouldn't surprise me if she's blowing me off now (I haven't texted her anything else yet). But what confuses me is why she acted that way in the first place. Cause I mean...I doubt her intention was to come have coffee with my for 30 mins then leave. I feel like something must have put her off before we even got outside if she's in such a hurry to leave.

In hindsight, another factor is that where we were going to take a walk was a dark park. So maybe she felt creeped out by that? ...I didn't really take this into account in the moment. haha
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

ProblemSolving

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Bboy,

Normally I'm against analyzing the outcome of a single date because the outcome is dependent on one single girl where you don't know where her head is at. However, this date reminded me of date I had years ago.

One of my first dates that I went on from cold approach, I did the pretty much the exact same thing you did and it had the same result. Here's where I think things went awry:

Bboy100 said:
She also seemed to welcome touches to the thighs (they didn't even look incidental because I reached all the way across the table...so we both know it was on purpose).

If you thought they were awkward touches, then she definitely did! If she's not already sold on you, this is enough for her to hit the eject button.

Next time have her sit next to you, so you can make the touches seem completely natural and unforced. Instead of creepy guy reaching out to touch her, you're just a confident guy who touches girls when he wants to and it's not a big deal because she's right next to you.

Even James Bond will look like a needy putz by reaching out to touch a chick.

This wasn't a major screw up though. If this girl was sold on you, she wouldn't give a damn that you touched her awkwardly. This was a "Maybe" girl, which usually end up going nowhere anyway. Consider her screened out haha. What you can learn from this experience is to get nice and close to girls before touching them, so the touches are effortless.
 

Bboy100

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If you thought they were awkward touches, then she definitely did! If she's not already sold on you, this is enough for her to hit the eject button.

Next time have her sit next to you, so you can make the touches seem completely natural and unforced. Instead of creepy guy reaching out to touch her, you're just a confident guy who touches girls when he wants to and it's not a big deal because she's right next to you.
Yeah, I normally make sure to find a seat where I'm at a 90* angle to her. But this time, it just so happened that there was no such seat. But yeah, in the future, I'll make sure to avoid touch if it doesn't look natural. Good call! :)

Overall though, looking back, I think I just had a bad date plan. I need to figure out a process which works with cold whether. I feel like even if she wasn't sold on me, she would have complied to do more with me if I made the activity itself appealing to her. A cold/dark park does not fit that description . haha
 
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