FR Two Girls, One Trampoline Park

[AsianPersuasion]

Girl #1: I went to a trampoline park and began to chat her up while her friend grabbed an application for me.
Me: "Can I say something?"
Her: "Sure! What is it?"
Me: "I think you look super cute and I want to talk to you for a bit!"
Her: "Haha, thank you!"
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: "(Name)"
Me: "How old are you?"
Her: "Sixteen."
Me: "Oh, awesome, I'm 17! Where do you go to school? I haven't seen you around Tartan!"
Her: "I go to Park! My boyfriend goes to Tartan though!"
Me: "Oh, so you've got a boyfriend. I'm sorry!" (I should never EVER apologize for being a guy and telling a girl she's cute.)
Her: "Yep. No it's fine, thank you!"
Me: "I know you said you've got a boyfriend, but would you be interested in meeting up sometime for coffee?" (I need to get in the habit of framing it as a suggestion instead of a question.)
Her: "No, sorry, I don't think my boyfriend would be happy about that. But thanks for the compliment though!"
Me: "No problem! I know it must take a lot of effort to look as good as you, so I'd feel rude not to compliment you."

Potential Success #1: I had run out of things to say to the last girl, but I was saved by the manager who came back with the application and opened to me.
Her: "So do you mind if I ask you a few questions right now?"
Me: "Sure! I'm guessing you're the manager then, right?"
Her: "Yes! Well, I'm not the hiring manager, but I just want to know."
Me: "Awesome. Fire away!"
Her: "How old are you?"
Me: "I am 17."
Her: "So still in school I'm guessing.. What grade are you going into?"
Me: "I'll be a senior next year!"
Her: "At what school?"
Me: "Tartan."
Her: "No way! I went to Tartan!"
Me: "No way! Haha, when'd you graduate? I never saw you around!"
Her: "I graduated two years ago I think. You can write my name down on the application like we've known each other for years! I'll give you a good word for sure!"
Me: "Will you? That's very sweet of you! *Gave her the Rock, Paper, Scissors handshake* Give me rock... paper.. scissors! Hahaha!"
Her: "What???? Hahaha! Oh my god, that was so cool! We have to hire him! So yeah, fill that out-"
Me: "Actually, do you mind if I fill it in right here?"
Her: "Um.. Sure! *hands me a pen* There are tables over there."
Me: "Promise to give me a good word? *wink*"
Her: "Yeah, you're so outgoing! ...And you dress well too! Most people come here in booty shorts."
Me: "Least I can do is put in some effort!"

And so I went to fill out the application. Half way in, the manager came by, sat down at the table I was at, and asked if I was interested in being a party host because I seemed so outgoing and perfect for the job. I told her I would love to, and she continued to talk about the other jobs, and about another guy I just HAD to meet if I got the job. She had to go, but I saw an opportunity.

Me: "Wait! Before you go, I was wondering... are you single at all?"
Her: "Noo... But we could pretend. Why?"
Me: "Haha! 'Pretend!' I got you. Do you want to meet up for some coffee sometime?"
Her: "Mmmm... I don't like coffee. I like hot chocolate though?"
Me: "How bout tea?"
Her: "I've never tried tea before."
Me: "Okay, well, we'll meet up sometime and I'll get you some hot chocolate then! Would you get in trouble for giving away your number on the job?"
Her: "Maybe. If you get the job, you can ask me."

And she walked away with an awkward laugh. After I filled out the application, I found out I didn't have all the information I needed for references, so I went up to the front desk again. Her coworkers told me it'd be fine, so I filled out the rest there while talking with them at the same time. A super cute girl from my school had a conversation with me about sports.. I flirted with my eye contact, but didn't dare ask her out because I had already hit on the manager.
This is only a potential success, because I didn't get the number, and when I asked to talk to her one last time to get her number, her coworkers said she was busy and began to giggle to each other. I get the feeling somebody let something slip, and hitting on two girls at the same time might make them feel insulted.. Oh well, one accepted and one didn't, so I see nothing wrong there.

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I still had time to spare, so I went to my usual hunting ground at the mall to see what I could accomplish, but got no success.

Girl #2: This was a woman with very large breasts at Hot Topic.
Her: "Hi! Can I help you find anything?"
Me: "Um, yeah! I'm looking for a flashy looking belt."
Her: "Sure! Right over here!"
Me: "Can I say something?"
Her: "Yeah!"
Me: "I think you look absolutely amazing!"
Her: "*chuckles* Thank you!"
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: "(Name)"
Me: "How old are you?"
Her: "23."
Me: "Awesome. Do you think you could keep showing me belts so we can keep talking?"
Her: "Actually, I have a boyfriend.. But thank you though!"

And she left. Since relationship status doesn't matter, I decided to continue to persist. I took a belt, described to her what my outfit would look like, and asked for her opinion. I continued to try to get to know her and found out she was into nursing, so I told her of my desire to be a doctor that changed the medical system.. As soon as that thread ended though, she walked away.

I examined the belts a bit, but found I hadn't the money.

Me: "Okay, so I don't have enough money to buy the belt. All I've got is 8 dollars in ones."
Her: "Haha, alright, that's fine!"
Me: "Before I go, I know you said you've got a boyfriend, but would you be interested in meeting up sometime for coffee?"
Her: "I don't think I can, sorry. My boyfriend wouldn't be too happy about that."
Me: "That's okay! Have a good night! Good luck with the nursing!"

Girl #3: This one was shopping at Kohl's with her mom
Me: "Hey, I saw you there, and I had to come tell you that I thought you looked amazing! What's your name?"
Her: "Haha! Um... Thank you! I'm (name)"
Me: *turning to mother* "Are you her mother? Hi, I'm Don! Are you two from a Spanish speaking country?"
Mom: "Nope. She speaks Spanish though!"
Me: "Do you? Haha, I know enough Spanish to give you the worst conversation you've ever had. So what are you two doing here? Are you shopping for any special event?"
Mom: "Actually, we're just picking our stuff up on our way back to Canada."
Me: "Oh! So today is your last day here then." *the girl nods.* "Okay, well, have a nice day, it was fun meeting you! What was your name again?" (I really should have stuck around to practice conversation. It didn't feel right just leaving like that.)

Girl #4: She worked at PacSun
Her: "Can I help you find anything?"
Me: "Uh, yeah! I'm actually looking for jean jackets. Can I say something though?"
Her: "Sure!"
Me: "I think you look absolutely amazing! I'm AP, what's your name?"
Her: "Um.. (name) haha!"
Me: "How old are you?"
Her: "16."
Me: "AWESOME! I'm 17!"
Her: "Haha, we don't have jean jackets here!"
Me: "Do you think you could show me a red buttoned down shirt then? ..As an excuse to keep talking?"
She then hid behind her coworkers behind a desk. The guy there came to help me instead.. Oh well, can't win everything.

And so my day of pickup at my usual hunting ground ended fairly dull. I saw a girl at Zumiez that was really cute, but I didn't try anything because a girl who worked at that same store agreed on a date with me.

Lessons learned: Employees that are working close to closing time are a lot less receptive.

Also, I'm beginning to feel as though everything is becoming too habitual and neurotic, so I'll probably take a week off actively going places to approach.. Plus, I'm beginning to feel as though I've exhausted my hunting grounds. Not a whole lot in Minnesota don't ya know?

 

[Laowai]

If you look at your conversation you'll notice that 1) they are very short, 2) you never get deeper, 3) most tell you that they have BFs. Asking a girl out without having talked longer and without having a connection of sorts / having found some shared commonalities will get you nowhere. You have to slow down a bit.

Don't ask them whether they have a BF and focus on just having a good conversation with them where you build a connection. I think you ask them this because you don't know what else to do. Show that you understand them and that you can relate to them. I'm guessing that you also seem very eager and excited. Learn to be aware of your energy levels and keep it down a bit. Try to visualize first the ideal conversation where you implement the steps I sent you, gradually, as you go along in your mental process. This is to give you a better sense of direction when you actually go out to talk to girls.

Also, I would rarely ask them out / go for their numbers if I hadn't talked to them at least 3-5 minutes whereas you ask them out almost immediately. Of course you get a "no". If you get phone numbers from this, I expect that you will only get flakes.

Also, don't hit on your potential future manager. Don't shit where you eat. You're getting caught up in the game, but learn when to switch it off / learn how to communicate interest non-verbally. With your manager, you could just have held some strong eye contact and smiled sexy. Now she's going to tell everybody how you hit on her. This is exactly what I'm warning you about when you get back to school. You got to think about your reputation too.

I've been editing this post a few times now: I strongly suggest that you sit down, look through my answers of where your sticking points are, then make a plan for what you will do each time you go out, and for what you'll work on for that day - your objectives for that day. This is to apply some important structure to your approaches.

Oh, and to answer your question from the other thread; I'm Caucasian but I speak Chinese.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Yeah, I hit on the manager completely out of force of habit haha... I guess I saw an opportunity when she said we could pretend she was single, so I went for it. Other than that, I've been trying to keep relationship status out of the conversation... They tell me anyway though haha.

You're completely right about having to reground my energy. I feel like I've been telling each girl the same thing, and that isn't cool. Whereas the girls in my last field report knew my compliments were heartfelt, I think these ones felt I was gaming them or something, and I'm in need for some re-calibration. This is why I need a week off.

Of course, if I happen to see a beautiful girl while I'm doing my own thing, I'll still walk up and compliment her and try to start a conversation... It'd be rude to let her go through all that effort to look good and walk past her without letting her know.

For future reference, I do plan on going back into school applying what I've learned from my time in the field this summer... I figured the girls would know not to talk about me asking for their numbers, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm definitely interested in a girl that I didn't even have the balls to talk to back then, despite multiple signals... How would you think I should go about looking for dates at school?

 

[Laowai]

I figured the girls would know not to talk about me asking for their numbers, but I guess that isn't the case. I'm definitely interested in a girl that I didn't even have the balls to talk to back then, despite multiple signals... How would you think I should go about looking for dates at school?

You've yet to experience the full power of girl gossip and how that can make or break your reputation - especially around fairly young and fairly immature girls (no offense intended). I would advice you to turn down your energy levels and be more chilled at school, and also be indirect when you approach them there at parties or in class. This is your social circle, brother.

Look up James Marshall, Sasha Daygame, and Artisan on Youtube. There are plenty of videos of them direct-gaming girls for more reference points. Pay particular attention to James' style vs. Sasha's style of game and get inspired from either one.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

I've been looking at Sasha's and Jame's infield videos. Thanks Laowai! I also continue to view your LR as a reference point, but in video, I can see the body language and voice tone as well as everything else