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Hey all, SunnyVibes here.
I’m back after more than a year, maybe two. I’ve spent time on myself and I’ve always known seduction isn’t the main focus of my life, and now after happily having done the things I’ve wanted, I’d definitely like to build this skillset in a way that won’t be lost.
I’m here for hopefully a quick answer as I think this is time sensitive. Below I’ll describe the scenario and timeline, provide the points I think are important from what knowledge I have about game intuitively and through application, thirdly my analysis of the situation and lastly the possible steps I can take. I do this with hopes that anyone who leaves a comment can actually help me think in a way suitable to seduction, than just give a solution.
Me: 5’5 male(I lie abt my stature- I’m actually a bit bigger but I reduce it to 5’5), my heritage is Asian Indian, born and raised in America, I have light tanned skin the color of milk tea, my fashion is my own style- it’s nice but I won’t go into it much because my training involves being able to look not so great and approach. I have a bit of a belly but I look skinny, and i have long hair that reaches my mid-shoulder blades, which i wear in a bun and let down. i wear contacts or glasses throughout this and nice as well as not so nice clothes.
Her: 5’8 female, naturally gifted bosom, I can tell she’s not the type to workout, but has a great body, small waist and shoulders, nice hips and long legs. Brassy hair. Standard to pretty face.
Background/Context: She’s my classmate in a class of 12 people which meets twice weekly. I’ve seen her 6 times at most. The first day we didn’t speak but she was aware of me, which I know through her tense body language and her trying to make a statement interjecting herself during a conversation between me and the TA, which I didn’t get back to her on. Second class, I talked with a different woman, a cute blonde. Third class, the second woman wasn’t there and I talked to the first one. The important thing is she asked me for my number very quickly into the beginning of the conversation(which surprised me) and then after that I asked her out on a coffee/ hot chocolate. She said yes, and we chatted and she stayed behind after class for like 10 min because I asked her toand we spent those 10 minutes enjoying conversation. Conversation ended with her telling me she hoped I’d make it to the lecture the following day as I’d missed it (Lecture is seperate with like 120 people, and this class is a class specifically for a small group of people from Lecture to come together twice a week.) I didn’t attend Lecture though. 4th class we talked but I realized she made a mistake and wouldn’t be the first one to text me. I asked her to stay again 6th class, but she told she had to go and I took her number which she gave happily. During this time, this woman has been investing by making notes for me without me asking and getting out of her chair to come and be next to me which is rare in a classroom setting. I flirt and make jokes with her, and she’s a bit introverted, which I want because I am too though I can come off energetic, but we’ve had good conversation. I texted her on wednesday after getting her number on tuesday, and we went back and forth with me flirting her saying no and me countering her frame and her number of messages increasing till thursday’s class.
Main Scenario: I decided to speak to the blonde that day on thursday last week because she’s been missing for a few days and I didn’t see the brassy haired one there. I like the blonde too and time was passing and then when I look up the main one I’m going for is sitting in a seat ahead of me not like close to me as usual. It was a quiz day so I couldn’t speak to her as I take all the time provided, and others don’t, and she’s gone. She didn’t text back to the last message I’d left. Then I texted her on saturday morning after a day and a half, and she saw my first message immediately(“Read”)and then her notifications changed to silenced immediately and she hasn’t seen my second message. Two days later it’s Monday, and I see her because we’re having our first major exam for this subject. It’s around 7p and I’m approaching the exam building when she comes out and surprisingly, she waves at me. I’m confused and my voice is a bit high pitched when I ask her if it’s the wrong building. She says it’s the right one but blah blah blah we part ways and then after awhile I decide to go out and she’s coming back in at the same time and she waves to me again. I sit outside on the steps going through my thoughts and when I come back in I’m talking to a TA and I see her trying to find a seat. I motion my hand between me and her and she says defensively “I’m sitting here”, and points to her chair. I can track the loss of investment over time. Then when I go next to her, I realize that there’s a person sitting two chairs over from her with one chair in between and that’s because of how seating works during exams but the brassy haired woman tells me in just a neutral tone not stiff(maybe I’m reading a bit into this) she points out that I need to sit one chair over so I ask the third person if I can have their seat and they agree. I’m sitting with the seat between me and brassy haired woman, and she’s not making conversation. My analysis of the situation is that she doesn’t want to speak because during the previous class I spent the morning flirting over text with her but in the afternoon when we were in class together I spent my time with the blonde and that affected her which caused the change in texting behavior. I know that she’ll finish the examination before me, and I have the feeling that letting her leave without saying anything will allow a narrative or opinion to crystallize by the time i see her next, so I kinda choke and not so smoothly say what I wanted to say which she doesn’t get the gist of, and she says Pardon? I didn’t get that. I tell her again: I’m not saying we should do this now, because we’re 5 min away from an exam, but I wanted to chat because I feel something’s not right.(I said something like this- it’s not clear) Why she asks, and I say she’s a acting a bit off recently. She agrees to talk quite readily, but refutes what I’m saying.
That’s where I’m at right now. I’m home afterwards writing this up.
Next steps:
i)I’m leaving for home tomorrow, and I won’t see her again till next week tuesday. Having told her I want to chat abt her feeling a bit off and then returning a week later and not mentioning it again makes it seem slightly like I’m pushing things under the rug.
ii) Text her tomorrow morning how her exam went as a starter then ask abt her feelings and talk abt it lightly, but that’s not good for three reasons: the way i’d started the previous conversation she’d ignored was abt a quiz, i’d used that question as a way to reach out on saturday once she’d stopped responding on Thursday and it’ll be like the same topic. it’s not that she ignored me because that was my topic, but it’s still not great technical game. secondly, talking about her feelings over text or the phone gives her an easy way of saying everything’s okay even if it’s not and then it becomes impersonal and not good i think. thirdly, though she may not even respond and if sshe ignores me again then the effort scale tips and going after her again would be a bit too high effort, 4thly i don’t think if she says she’s fine over the phone i can set up a date because my instinct says we’re not on a high point rn. 5thly also, texting her will be weird to her because she expects to see me in class tmrw as she doesn’t know im leaving for a week. she may think im putting in too much effort and then not respond. she’ll realize it late of course once i miss class for a week, but then pride wouldn’t allow her to text me or bring it up and me approaching her after a week with like 3 attempts that have not gone well is not an option.
iii)If I don’t get a message across though, it’ll be 7 days before I see her again, I may not be on her mind. she may also auto reject me softly because of some narrative she creates about the situation. i think i need to get a response to her because from her perspective, im a guy who was flirting with her, who ignored her, who she stopped messaging and didn’t message again once i reached out , who she saw at an exam hall and passively agreed to chat with.
iv)i think the solution is for her to not see me in class tomorrow and then for me to give her a call at night instead of drop a text abt talking. a call is personal and makes it better for this conversation, it prevents dodging from her end, and it gives the opportunity for me to build a high point unlike text. also, it solves the timing issue, because it’s personal and i don’t have to wait a week to be personal with her.
advice would be appreciated. excuse me if the post was difficult to follow.
cheers,
I’m back after more than a year, maybe two. I’ve spent time on myself and I’ve always known seduction isn’t the main focus of my life, and now after happily having done the things I’ve wanted, I’d definitely like to build this skillset in a way that won’t be lost.
I’m here for hopefully a quick answer as I think this is time sensitive. Below I’ll describe the scenario and timeline, provide the points I think are important from what knowledge I have about game intuitively and through application, thirdly my analysis of the situation and lastly the possible steps I can take. I do this with hopes that anyone who leaves a comment can actually help me think in a way suitable to seduction, than just give a solution.
Me: 5’5 male(I lie abt my stature- I’m actually a bit bigger but I reduce it to 5’5), my heritage is Asian Indian, born and raised in America, I have light tanned skin the color of milk tea, my fashion is my own style- it’s nice but I won’t go into it much because my training involves being able to look not so great and approach. I have a bit of a belly but I look skinny, and i have long hair that reaches my mid-shoulder blades, which i wear in a bun and let down. i wear contacts or glasses throughout this and nice as well as not so nice clothes.
Her: 5’8 female, naturally gifted bosom, I can tell she’s not the type to workout, but has a great body, small waist and shoulders, nice hips and long legs. Brassy hair. Standard to pretty face.
Background/Context: She’s my classmate in a class of 12 people which meets twice weekly. I’ve seen her 6 times at most. The first day we didn’t speak but she was aware of me, which I know through her tense body language and her trying to make a statement interjecting herself during a conversation between me and the TA, which I didn’t get back to her on. Second class, I talked with a different woman, a cute blonde. Third class, the second woman wasn’t there and I talked to the first one. The important thing is she asked me for my number very quickly into the beginning of the conversation(which surprised me) and then after that I asked her out on a coffee/ hot chocolate. She said yes, and we chatted and she stayed behind after class for like 10 min because I asked her toand we spent those 10 minutes enjoying conversation. Conversation ended with her telling me she hoped I’d make it to the lecture the following day as I’d missed it (Lecture is seperate with like 120 people, and this class is a class specifically for a small group of people from Lecture to come together twice a week.) I didn’t attend Lecture though. 4th class we talked but I realized she made a mistake and wouldn’t be the first one to text me. I asked her to stay again 6th class, but she told she had to go and I took her number which she gave happily. During this time, this woman has been investing by making notes for me without me asking and getting out of her chair to come and be next to me which is rare in a classroom setting. I flirt and make jokes with her, and she’s a bit introverted, which I want because I am too though I can come off energetic, but we’ve had good conversation. I texted her on wednesday after getting her number on tuesday, and we went back and forth with me flirting her saying no and me countering her frame and her number of messages increasing till thursday’s class.
Main Scenario: I decided to speak to the blonde that day on thursday last week because she’s been missing for a few days and I didn’t see the brassy haired one there. I like the blonde too and time was passing and then when I look up the main one I’m going for is sitting in a seat ahead of me not like close to me as usual. It was a quiz day so I couldn’t speak to her as I take all the time provided, and others don’t, and she’s gone. She didn’t text back to the last message I’d left. Then I texted her on saturday morning after a day and a half, and she saw my first message immediately(“Read”)and then her notifications changed to silenced immediately and she hasn’t seen my second message. Two days later it’s Monday, and I see her because we’re having our first major exam for this subject. It’s around 7p and I’m approaching the exam building when she comes out and surprisingly, she waves at me. I’m confused and my voice is a bit high pitched when I ask her if it’s the wrong building. She says it’s the right one but blah blah blah we part ways and then after awhile I decide to go out and she’s coming back in at the same time and she waves to me again. I sit outside on the steps going through my thoughts and when I come back in I’m talking to a TA and I see her trying to find a seat. I motion my hand between me and her and she says defensively “I’m sitting here”, and points to her chair. I can track the loss of investment over time. Then when I go next to her, I realize that there’s a person sitting two chairs over from her with one chair in between and that’s because of how seating works during exams but the brassy haired woman tells me in just a neutral tone not stiff(maybe I’m reading a bit into this) she points out that I need to sit one chair over so I ask the third person if I can have their seat and they agree. I’m sitting with the seat between me and brassy haired woman, and she’s not making conversation. My analysis of the situation is that she doesn’t want to speak because during the previous class I spent the morning flirting over text with her but in the afternoon when we were in class together I spent my time with the blonde and that affected her which caused the change in texting behavior. I know that she’ll finish the examination before me, and I have the feeling that letting her leave without saying anything will allow a narrative or opinion to crystallize by the time i see her next, so I kinda choke and not so smoothly say what I wanted to say which she doesn’t get the gist of, and she says Pardon? I didn’t get that. I tell her again: I’m not saying we should do this now, because we’re 5 min away from an exam, but I wanted to chat because I feel something’s not right.(I said something like this- it’s not clear) Why she asks, and I say she’s a acting a bit off recently. She agrees to talk quite readily, but refutes what I’m saying.
That’s where I’m at right now. I’m home afterwards writing this up.
Next steps:
i)I’m leaving for home tomorrow, and I won’t see her again till next week tuesday. Having told her I want to chat abt her feeling a bit off and then returning a week later and not mentioning it again makes it seem slightly like I’m pushing things under the rug.
ii) Text her tomorrow morning how her exam went as a starter then ask abt her feelings and talk abt it lightly, but that’s not good for three reasons: the way i’d started the previous conversation she’d ignored was abt a quiz, i’d used that question as a way to reach out on saturday once she’d stopped responding on Thursday and it’ll be like the same topic. it’s not that she ignored me because that was my topic, but it’s still not great technical game. secondly, talking about her feelings over text or the phone gives her an easy way of saying everything’s okay even if it’s not and then it becomes impersonal and not good i think. thirdly, though she may not even respond and if sshe ignores me again then the effort scale tips and going after her again would be a bit too high effort, 4thly i don’t think if she says she’s fine over the phone i can set up a date because my instinct says we’re not on a high point rn. 5thly also, texting her will be weird to her because she expects to see me in class tmrw as she doesn’t know im leaving for a week. she may think im putting in too much effort and then not respond. she’ll realize it late of course once i miss class for a week, but then pride wouldn’t allow her to text me or bring it up and me approaching her after a week with like 3 attempts that have not gone well is not an option.
iii)If I don’t get a message across though, it’ll be 7 days before I see her again, I may not be on her mind. she may also auto reject me softly because of some narrative she creates about the situation. i think i need to get a response to her because from her perspective, im a guy who was flirting with her, who ignored her, who she stopped messaging and didn’t message again once i reached out , who she saw at an exam hall and passively agreed to chat with.
iv)i think the solution is for her to not see me in class tomorrow and then for me to give her a call at night instead of drop a text abt talking. a call is personal and makes it better for this conversation, it prevents dodging from her end, and it gives the opportunity for me to build a high point unlike text. also, it solves the timing issue, because it’s personal and i don’t have to wait a week to be personal with her.
advice would be appreciated. excuse me if the post was difficult to follow.
cheers,
