Upgrading girls, is like staring from zero

[adi13]

Hi,
I could not think of a more appropriate title but it goes like this:
I started to get bored of college girls and I fell like I need more and from a week now I started approaching very attractive girls, mature ones, but is almost like starting from ground zero. Until now with college girls I will kiss them on the first date, and on the second date the girl will be on my couch. With the other ones I can get them on a date, not all (or at least not right now) but I can't even go for a kiss, they always, I mean always reject the kiss.
Just right now I came from a date, and the same happened and I know I need to play a different game with this ones, but man I feel like I'm wasting them (they are so hot, and know hot to talk ). I approached this girl last year in December, but nothing happened, and this week she text-ed me, so I payed the game. Even if she didn't go for the kiss I am thinking sending a message next week (Monday) and invite her at my place. If i lose her, I lose her, if not she is already lost.
Some hints on how to proceed from now on? from the ones that are walking trough this or already walked trough.

Thanks.

 

[ray_zorse]

Upgrade your skills -- conversation (get her sharing and build a connection), sexual flirtation and vibe (you're probably coming off too friendly), work out your date plan / process, how u will move her and pull her home etc. Should be doable. I wouldn't be surprised if college girls are easier, but what works with everyday women should improve your results with college girls too. Also if they are rejecting the kiss, post an FR which details the interaction leading up to it, ao people can give specific help on where u fucked up / what to improve.
Ray

 

[adi13]

Sorry to ask, but FR ??

 

[BlackBolt]

Also try holding off the kiss until just before you have sex with her. Almost all the girls I sleep with I don't have my first kiss with until I'm escalating for sex. Also some girls might not kiss you but they'll still be willing to have sex with you (weird I know). I've had girls who wouldn't kiss me on the lips but after kissing their necks, bodies, and after escalation they still have sex with me.

 

[Troy]

Sorry to ask, but FR ??

FR is a Field Report. On the board's home page, you'll see a board for that. Create a new tread/post there. Definition of a field report is when you interact with someone, a group, or just observed something ( example: a woman walking in high heels in the rain, or you saw a man approach a woman at a stop sign ).

In your case, you would post a dialogue ( what everyone said ), their and your body language, and all the events that occurred: location, sounds, e.t.c.

Troy