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thedude

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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I suppose I am writing this much sooner than I could have ever imagined. Then again this did not happen because of skill but I digress...

It was Saturday, initiation day for the Binghamton chapter of Kappa Sigma. I helped found this chapter and the entire day we were getting put through the process. There was then a banquet, everyone had dates. I had to have a fellow pledge brother hook me up with a date because you know I have only just started going about things in a smart way with women. I could not get a date and the one he set me up with was not easy on the eyes at all. My god, I could not wait for the after party. I tried some deep diving and what not but just how unattractive she is just stopped me from talking to her about a quarter of a way through the banquet.

Anyway, we finally get to the after party at a club named liquid. Fifteen dollar open bar for 2 hours, 11 to 1 am. I had expected to be drinking Heinekens and good stuff but that ended up not being part of the open bar so once again I was drinking cheap crap. I tried jack and coke but for the most part a lot of shots of hard liquor. Everyone is having a good time, people keep asking me if Hyde is out yet(MY pledge name is Jekyll and Hyde, mainly because I look like a goodie when I am sober but get a little more interesting when I am drunk). So that was nice and I was enjoying myself making some small talk with friends but still nothing.

This is when the moment of truth happens, the open bar is about over, almost 1 and I get a some more drinks. I am pretty schmacked at this point. Still in control but I was feeling it quite well. I head up to the dance floor just chilling trying to see if there are any girls who are fair game(all my brothers brought their dates so I was treading carefully). I see this girl in a red dress, she has 3 friends with her. Two of them are HUMONGOUS women and if either of them sat on me, it would probably kill me. The third is not half bad. Now it gets fuzzy now but one way or another the third not bad girl starts grinding on me, we are talking then we go out on the balcony so she can smoke. She shotguns me the smoke and it is pretty obvious where this is heading.

I think I suggest we get out of there and we then head to a taxi. Get in a taxi, back to campus, straight into her room. We then get to business and do all sorts of shit. Now I am going to get into some details now... While we were fucking I kept slipping out when I was on top, god I could barely feel anything I was pretty god damn numb from the booze. So we change positions and do some other stuff, in retrospect I think I was way to rough, I believe this because she kept saying ow be gentle :/

Anyway I am also talking to her while we screw, using that stuff from that blog post on 9 ways to be a sexual man. I was being quite blunt though but anyway I am telling her how I do not judge, how I like women who take what they want. How I think the double standards are BS, I was really trying to to really put that stuff out there and even saying I like being single. At one point while shes riding me, I notice that she is not looking into my eyes while shes doing her thing. I inquire into this and I get her to tell me that she has been hurt in the past and all those details.We get into how many partners she had, turns out she is at 16. MY old self would have been like holy fuck I am going to get aids but at that moment I was just like... cool. She keeps on asking me about my number of people, I keep dodging and asking her but eventually I tell her 0. Another thing is I could not cum at all, finally managed to but was an endeavor.


This is when things go awry. We start trying to fall asleep, at some point I say something and then she says she wants to go brush her teeth or some crap. She gets her robe on and leaves the room. I then hear her talking with friends, possibly a guy IDK. I hear her complaining about how she keeps getting virgins... she is also telling him or her about all the stuff we did. I start getting my clothes on to leave, it was not that my feelings were hurt but more along the lines of I do not have to stand for this. I am fully dressed, she comes back in and says I can either stay in bed or something else. All I say is good night and walk out, about half way down the stairs though I realize my tie is missing. I walk back up, she is walking down the hall, sees me and immediately darts into her friends room I dont even flinch, head to her room, find my tie and then walk back to my dorm.

I looked like fucking hell when I woke up, I mean geez. Anyway I have been thinking about it since I woke up, deep thought and I then tried looking for her on FB. I managed to find her profile through the mutual friends thing and she is cute. What should I say?

I was thinking along the lines of, Hey, thanks for showing me a good time last night. I hope I can return the favor some day. My number is ########## give me a call some time - CollegeFreshman

Please excuse this monster post and the sooner a reply the better, I really want advice on what to say through FB. I would like to keep this thing going.
 
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girlsfollow

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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First of all really good job! Well done for moving things swiftly and smoothly like that! It is a skill so don't put yourself down.

BUT Don't thank her - thats for sure!

I think in this instance it was a mistake to tell her she was your first - In future I wouldn't be honest about this with girls you've just met, tell them a few more- unless they seem like the really sweet type (not 16) possibly. Also you shouldn't be talking much during sex apart from sex talk (which is a whole art on its own).

It's a tough one what to say now particularly the way she reacted - I'm not sure but based on that I might be tempted to leave it for at least a week or two and then act as though you just spotted her on FB coincidentally - but thats just an idea. You could go with a more direct approach as an all in, but finding her on fb the day after is quite a big chasing move- not a god idea - there is no rush
 

Ross

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You do everything pretty nicely in this pick-up.. Up until the actual sex. Moving her around and then leaving = usual pick-up, so there's no problems there.

Anyway I am also talking to her while we screw, using that stuff from that blog post on 9 ways to be a sexual man. I was being quite blunt though but anyway I am telling her how I do not judge, how I like women who take what they want. How I think the double standards are BS, I was really trying to to really put that stuff out there and even saying I like being single. At one point while shes riding me, I notice that she is not looking into my eyes while shes doing her thing. I inquire into this and I get her to tell me that she has been hurt in the past and all those details.We get into how many partners she had, turns out she is at 16. MY old self would have been like holy fuck I am going to get aids but at that moment I was just like... cool. She keeps on asking me about my number of people, I keep dodging and asking her but eventually I tell her 0. Another thing is I could not cum at all, finally managed to but was an endeavor.

This is where things go extremely awry. You were actually doing all this in the middle of the act? This isn't turning her on.. This is odd. Men don't usually start spewing on and on about things they read on a blog in the middle of having sex. Especially when the advice wasn't supposed to be used in the middle of sex.

Simply telling a woman that you don't judge and like women who take what they want isn't the idea. Not judging and positively reinforcing women who take what they want speaks volumes more. Do things instead of saying you do them. Anyone can say things, but it takes a strong man to do them.

Also, the idea of deep diving and talking about things is ideally something done before sex, as sort of a screening process. It is then continued after sex, but rarely if ever during. Talking about logical things during sex isn't smart. Sex is pure, raw emotion, not scientific and logical. Your drunken state and logical thinking about sex during the act probably lead to some performance anxiety and difficulty in cumming, so it's not a surprise that it took a while.

I really want advice on what to say through FB. I would like to keep this thing going.

I really don't think there's anything that you can say to keep things going. I honestly think you need to let her open up to you about the night before. After that you can relate with her on things and get to actually know her, then you might be able to see her again. It's pretty hard to get with a woman again after a night of bad sex, especially when she has the abundance mentality in this situation.
 

thedude

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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What a quagmire this whole thing is. I am happy I had sex but I am even angrier that I suck at it.

Also to clarify a bit I did not yap the entire time, the vast majority was just screwing and we did a lot of stuff... Man for my first time I really did a lot of different things... Also I know this is most likely if not definitely a lie she said she came a couple of times. This is probably to try and have me finish so she could sleep since I had made it clear I wanted to make her cum...

Thanks for the honesty guys and also concerning me picking her up.. For all intensive purposes she picked my butt up. She initiated, brought us outside for that smoke. I am sure if I had not said for us to leave I am sure she would of eventually.
 

Tyme2k

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You wont be great at sex right away bro. It's an art form. The only thing I ever talk about is how they want it exactly and how much they are turning me on. This turns them on to say things like,"you're so fucking wet" "that feels incredible" "You feel amazing" "I'm so deep right now" These things will get her BT(body Temp) higher whisper them in her ear with a sexy tone. Breathe deep and focus. After your 100+ time you will be much better.

What worked for me was having a girlfriend that was difficult to get off. I would work and work until I could make her come in 5 minutes. For a girl its not as much of the motion, but getting them in the emotional and mental headspace to have an orgasm.

Lastly don't lie about your partners. Be open, honest and congruent. It will help you stay on the path to being a real motherfuckin pimp.
 

Verisimilitude

Cro-Magnon Man
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Hey man good to hear shotgunning helped you! Sorry that the whole sex thing didn't work, but sounds like that'll get easier and now you've got it out of the way.
 

Landlord

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dude...EVERYBODY sucks at it in the beginning!
When I was in college I came so fast there was no way I could get ANY girl to fuck me twice!
Breathe...Learn....Enjoy!
Congratulations for getting virginity taken care of.
Keep moving forward.
 

The Tool

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Congrats on burning that V card bro. Ross and everyone else covered everything really well. Well done on the pick up, Also shy away from the talk thats not sexual while in the act, its a turn off. Anyway Good job.

Cheers, The Tool
 

Mr. oblivious

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just dont deep dive in sex and try get her turn on and you will probably improve

Picturing deep diving in the act made me laugh a little
 
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