Whan exact numbers are appropriate? Should I feel bad about my performance?

[nad_bigger]

26, russian, daygame only.

This has been the source of the biggest insecurities of mine and the strongest anxiety inducing thing of all.

The question of what percentage rates are normal going from approach to numbers, numbers/dates, dates/sex in daygame.
The question of how many lays a month should qualify you as a PUA coach/ GC author.
The question of "was it statictics or was it a fuck up" in every single occasion.

My progress:
I have been monitoring my progress on a spreadsheet daily for last 3 years, it goes like this:
approaches: 2355
numbers: 154
dates: 52
lays: 5 (yeah...)

last 30 days (27 feb-27 mar):
approaches: 86
numbers: 28
dates: 5 (2-3 more sceduled)
lays: 0

What (learned from Hector and Cody) is considered appropriate if you are good:
100 approaches
40 numbers
10 dates
3-4 lays

I think, It is extremely important to see what exactly you have been doing, in terms of raw numbers as opposed to "well I am working hard, I feel that".
Please, share your raw numbers below, both masters and guys like me.

 

[Fuck This]

I'd say work on the FEEL of the interactions. Quit being so analytical.

Only perfect practice makes perfect. If you can focus on having a pleasant, non gamey conversation, where a woman might see some of your attractive qualities without you reciting a script, and you actually enjoy the conversation, that is a win. You do this enough and pick up on the IOI's and your conversion rate will improve.
A Baseball Metaphor:
You don't worry about your batting average at the plate. you concentrate on THAT pitch. Where is the release point?, what is the rotation of the ball? when do you start your swing?, and you never take your eye off the ball. If you miss or foul it off, you use that experience to adjust for the next pitch, and you have a better read on the pitcher. Next at bat may be a different pitcher with different style. You adjust. Next game, different team , you adjust. you learn what pitches you can hit and which ones to lay off of....

After a while its just the on base percentage and home runs that count....

 

[nad_bigger]

Give that guy from Novosibirsk, Russia a baseball metaphor!
If we still gonna talk about baseball, of which I know nothing about, I think it was Billy Beane and assistant GM Peter Brand of Oakland Athletics baseball team, who, faced with the franchise's limited budget for players, build a team of undervalued talent by taking a sophisticated sabermetric approach to scouting and analyzing players (wiki quote), so I think, spam approach IS bad and I don't do it anymore, but being analytical is very, very cool.

Anyway, thanks for your reply, man. Spamming vs Quality is exactly what helped me go from 48 approaches for one date to 12.

Still, like in business, if you do not measure your numbers, you cannot change them (at least you are severely limited).
And you will never be able to do 1 approach - 1 number - 1 date - 1 lay, so I would like to hear your take on what numbers make a PUA master.

 

[nad_bigger]

Got a PM from Seppuku, great advice:

I saw your post on numbers and ratios. I was hoping a guy who is good at cold approach would answer.

I am more a specialist of online dating. So I can tell you my numbers of date to bed ratio.

Since january 2017 I got 32 dates, out of which 22 became intimate (plus 2 more ending in LMR). So my date to bed ratio is close to 70%. If I had had 52 dates like you, that would be 37 ending in my bed.

In order to improve your number of happy conclusions, you need to design your dates with the objective of pulling home in mind, also remembering that she (or you) may have imperatives to wake up early the next day (job, university...).

So my template is like this. I take her to a date around 7:30pm. We have about two hours of face time where I focus on making her comfortable, emotionally, and physically. At about 10pm, I tell her we are going to listen to some classical music, and bring her to my home. At home, I escalate within 30 minutes. We are done around 12:00 and I send her back to home.

Easy. Just design your date template better, towards an objective of pulling home mid evening.

 

[Jakeroviks]

2000 approaches is a ton. So good stuff.

As far as numbers go, your approach -> number conversion is pretty rough. And your date -> lay conversion is really bad. If I got a girl on a date, there's a very high chance that we're going to fuck at some point in the future.