What About Getting More Social Circle Posts ?

[Troy]

A few years ago I felt a long disconnect with life and I always wondered why. There was always something missing till I found girls chase and it opened my eyes to so much possibility. My first impression was wow. There was a " new way " I could game women. I read all the articles with passion and I felt I had a super power just because I found this site and others didn't. All the other guys at my high school were " missing out".

They didn't know what " gems " lied and how they could cold approach lots of girls and get lots of lays. That was how I thought.

Since last September I made a next discovery and I think it changed me for the best. Before finding G.C. I hated social circles and when I learnt about cold approach I said " yes finally this was my destiny".

I started cold approaching girls on the street, in malls, libraries etc. And I loved doing it for a good while. I still like cold approaching. It's freedom.

Cold approaching gave me a decent foundation to up my social circle game. Girls from all around school became so attracted to me. From cute to regular looking, popular to regular girls.

I FELL IN LOVE WITH SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME. For the first I saw social circle as a oyster full of potential.

I have a confession: here goes... I feel a bit disappointed that more guys on the boards are not talking about social circle game. Yep you read that right.

Doing a rough guess, comparing social circle vs cold approach talk, 90% of all posts are on cold approach. I'm disappointed seeing that. Why is that so? Personally I see cold approach as training ground and social circle as the battle field. In my opinion the battle field is more exciting.

Let me give examples:

Cold Approaching: Here goes a guy out to a club all alone/ with a wingman. He parties a bit , talks to a lot of girls in a night, takes one home and bangs her. Rinse repeat more often than not. ( p.s. this is just a example. There are many more ways a cold approach can go )

Social Circle: That same guy focuses on being cool, fun, and laid back. He has a mission bigger than girls. He plans parties/ is the funny guy, top chess player and keeps doing interesting things. All that brings girls into his life naturally.

Which guy would you prefer being?

I'd definitely choose the social circle guy. He adheres to the law of least effort. The point I'm making is to truly master seduction the best way is by doing social circle

Why don't more guy's on here talk about:

Going out with male friends just to chill

Finding a passion greater than women

Planning events

Becoming popular at your college

Doing manly stuff that adds greater value to mankind

Why aren't there more posts on social circle dynamics? Most of the content is about getting lays ( which is super cool ). But getting lots of pussy year after year and still not developing social circles from that is kinda weird in my opinion.

Biggest takeaway is:

The greatest thing a seducer can do is build cool social circles that he can add value. The measure of a man isn't how much pussy he can nurture but how many lives he can impact in a positive way while still reaping greater rewards.

Again why does the site and boards lack so much on all this? What's stopping you from talking about it?

Troy

 

[Franco]

Troy,

To keep my answer relatively short, the main reason that social circle game isn't discussed as much is that it usually "falls off" after you leave high school/college. Once you aren't in an environment that isn't conducive to social circle, you're going to struggle to meet new women.

The only exception is if you find a way to continuously expand your social circle after college. I have actually done that and continue to do that, but I'm also very socially adept and aware. And even with that, I still find cold approaching to be the best thing you can possibly do to live the life you want with women. The freedom to know that any woman is available if you're willing to open her is nothing close to what social circle can net you, and while social circle does have its perks, you'll never feel quite the same way you do when you begin to master cold approach.

- Franco

 

[Smith]

Troy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deN-kebtpV0

Kinda agree with you that "cold appraoching" is like living on a shoe string. Designing a lifestyle that brings women in naturally is like getting a great job...but most people don't have that great job they love. However, "cold approaching" is still the best way to sharpen up your social/seduction skills very fast in my opinion.

 

[Ross]

Developing a strong social circle persona tends to thrust you into a role unbefitting of a lover. You're always around, have loads of social value, and essentially become a prime boyfriend candidate for women when you travel this route.

Not only that, but social circle tends to be a closed system where you aren't running into a flow of new women all the time. Hence, why it is called a circle. Being social and friendly in general is more helpful for getting lays, but trying to build a whole foundation to provide for others thrusts you straight into a provider role,

The measure of a man isn't how much pussy he can nurture but how many lives he can impact in a positive way while still reaping greater rewards.

This is extreme provider mentality. it states that being a lover isn't important, but providing for others is. You can certainly play this game, in fact most men do play this game, but here we tend to focus on becoming a rare lover, who is focused on sleeping with women more than he is focused on providing for them. Because there are already so many provider men out there, and a lack of lover men, women learn to treasure the lovers as more important than the providers.

 

[Troy]

To keep my answer relatively short, the main reason that social circle game isn't discussed as much is that it usually "falls off" after you leave high school/college. Once you aren't in an environment that isn't conducive to social circle, you're going to struggle to meet new women.

Very good point Franco

However, "cold approaching" is still the best way to sharpen up your social/seduction skills very fast in my opinion.

Definitely

Developing a strong social circle persona tends to thrust you into a role unbefitting of a lover.

I respect your post Ross. Though I should point out I'm taking a step off the soapbox. I think a man needs to have a lifestyle apart from approaching girls and fucking them. Same as how you can't spend a life working 9 to 5. People take vacations etc.

Think about going to the gym with your male friends. That is a social circle. Working in the office with 5 people, that's a social circle. I was being more " general ". Surely I don't think most men want to get up and approach approach all the days of their lives. As much as meeting women is great there will be weekends you prefer chilling with " JUST FRIENDS". There is no seducing, you can sit in baggy shorts and watch movies with them. Personally I love having female friends. Some of them quite attractive too, and me and those girls just go out to a restaurant. I don't think about bringing them back to my place and banging them.

Social Circle as in high value friends who help each other.

This is extreme provider mentality. it states that being a lover isn't important, but providing for others is.

I'm not saying being a lover isn't important. What I'm saying is there needs to be more balance. Measure of a man...a big example is Usain Bolt or Messi. These men create a life that adds value to others and all while reaping greater rewards. It's the pride and outcome independence a man gets when he has more going for him than being a lover. I'm not saying gc should teach men to become legends because really that's not something easy to get. The gamble and possible rewards is way in the future and it all depends what niche a man wants to make his passion.

Addressing being a lover, that's essentially important as well. It's such a rare thing and women love that.


Troy

 

[Troy]

Hope this clears a bit

Yes it did. Thanks

Troy

 

[Ross]

Developing a strong social circle persona tends to thrust you into a role unbefitting of a lover.

I respect your post Ross. Though I should point out I'm taking a step off the soapbox. I think a man needs to have a lifestyle apart from approaching girls and fucking them. Same as how you can't spend a life working 9 to 5. People take vacations etc.

Think about going to the gym with your male friends. That is a social circle. Working in the office with 5 people, that's a social circle. I was being more " general ". Surely I don't think most men want to get up and approach approach all the days of their lives. As much as meeting women is great there will be weekends you prefer chilling with " JUST FRIENDS". There is no seducing, you can sit in baggy shorts and watch movies with them. Personally I love having female friends. Some of them quite attractive too, and me and those girls just go out to a restaurant. I don't think about bringing them back to my place and banging them.

Social Circle as in high value friends who help each other.

This is extreme provider mentality. it states that being a lover isn't important, but providing for others is.

I'm not saying being a lover isn't important. What I'm saying is there needs to be more balance. Measure of a man...a big example is Usain Bolt or Messi. These men create a life that adds value to others and all while reaping greater rewards. It's the pride and outcome independence a man gets when he has more going for him than being a lover. I'm not saying gc should teach men to become legends because really that's not something easy to get. The gamble and possible rewards is way in the future and it all depends what niche a man wants to make his passion.

Addressing being a lover, that's essentially important as well. It's such a rare thing and women love that.


Troy

Troy, I think we need to reconcile viewpoints on social circles, as we are arguing the same points. The only distinguishing statement I have is that working on developing big social circles tends to not be conducive to getting lays (for reasons laid throughout this thread and in my response), which is why it isn't taught at GC nearly as much.

That's is why we don't talk about how to hang out with friends in baggy shorts or shoot the shit with some chicks . It certainly is a part of life just as is dating, but most times social circle will be limiting, as you're scrambling to create a situation where people will flow to you, rather than simply taking the easy way and just talking to women wherever they may be!

 

[Troy]

Troy, I think we need to reconcile viewpoints on social circles, as we are arguing the same points. The only distinguishing statement I have is that working on developing big social circles tends to not be conducive to getting lays (for reasons laid throughout this thread and in my response), which is why it isn't taught at GC nearly as much.

That's is why we don't talk about how to hang out with friends in baggy shorts or shoot the shit with some chicks . It certainly is a part of life just as is dating, but most times social circle will be limiting, as you're scrambling to create a situation where people will flow to you, rather than simply taking the easy way and just talking to women wherever they may be

Ross, funny how we were arguing the same points. To reconcile viewpoints I think both of us agree that being a lover is more important than providing for others, however there is time when we all take breaks to hang with the boys and have fun, and have a relaxed setting with girls in flip flops and baggy pants ( be more down to earth), and focus on building regular friendships .

( Kinda repeating what both of us said above)

That's how I can summarize our views. Finally I still hold my viewpoint that more could be talked about on taking oneself off from meeting women and more talk on building long lasting friendships.Drexel does a good job answering some of this in his latest video " How to Make People Chase You "

Troy