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quickshade

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I don't know where to begin, but the easiest way is from the beginning. I was a high ranking manager at a local establishment, and was in charge of training all new hires. One day we got this girl which has tormented me since. Of course as all people on here say she's cute, funny, smart, we got along great and after working together for a while I felt like there was a connection. We went on a date (casual) to see fireworks on the fourth (this was 2 years ago) and for some reason when the moment arrived I missed it, completely. I look back and it was obvious she wanted to sleep with me and I just don't know what happened. I then made the mistake to try and pursue her and tell her how much I liked her and that was it, game over. No longer interested and started seeing other guys from the workplace. This lead to some problems and we pretty much stopped talking. I was transferred to a bigger location on a promotion and kind of stopped talking to her, but out of no where she would text me and want to be friends or talk about something out of no where.

Now during these times she had about 3 different boyfriends all of who I had worked with, and she did not have a problem telling me all about them, even if I didn't ask. She often would send accident text which were meant for the other guys to me and play it off as if it were nothing. I kind of got fed up with it and over the summer told her that I couldn't play these games anymore. She has admitted she has no feelings for me (more on that later) and I felt that I couldn't be friends with her because I always saw us as more than that. General knowledge from this board has taught me 2 things, 1. I fucked up by admitting my feelings because it's no longer a game to her and 2. She's letting me orbit and pulls me in when she needs attention.

So here is the issue, She does and says things that are just total signs that she has feelings for me. I can go down the list of things girls do when they have a crush and check almost every box, and a few other girls could go down that same list and say the same thing about her and I. She sends weird texts that are almost like a mystery in meaning. She sends flirty snapchats (look at my butt in these workout pants, heres what I look like today ignore the little bit of underwear showing, etc) and when she's drunk she says things like i'm the only guy that cares about her and i'm the only guy that listens and thinks she's amazing. Now I thought I was insane when all this was happening but 2 girls who do nothing but look out for me have seen some of the things she has texted and flat out said that she's got to be flirting.

If I try to flirt back or admit feelings she pulls away and tells me she has a BF (they aren't dating and he claims its a hookup) He even makes fun of me because he knows I like her and he says she mentions me quite a bit. I think he is teasing me but who knows. Mostly it's the way she goes out of my life only to jump right back in just when i'm moving on. If I talk about other girls i'm interested in she gets mad, If I go on dates she asks everyone she can about the girl. She texted me the other night telling me I was going to be pissed, I played along and she admitted to sleeping with one of my co-workers and asked me what I thought. I responded why do you tell me these things and she said cause your gonna be pissed and then after 6 hours texted back that she was joking.

My problem is I really like her, and common sense says that there is nothing here and I need to move on, and that is easy to do. but I look back at everything and I say to myself how could all this mean nothing. Way to many signs for me just to walk away. My question is, how can I tell if there is nothing here and it's just an attention ploy or if there is something and she's making it a game. How do I confront the situation, do I even confront it and how do I stop being friends with her if need be without being an asshole. Seriously it's a head scratcher and I need some help.
 

Bete Noire

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Quickshade,

I understand it's frustrating to be in this kind of situation as something similar kickstarted my drive to get better with women. However, if she's flirting with you and you flirt back but she pulls away and doesn't reciprocate then she is just interested in keeping you around as you make her feel good. I think Chase stated in one of his articles that a way to tell if a girl likes you is to try isolate and escalate. It seems she is letting you do neither of these things which means she isn't interested in a sexual relationship.

Picture for one moment some decent looking gal at work who constantly tells you your looking finneee ;) You send her a photo and she's flirting back. You feel good. You would keep her around. She's just doing what anybody would do in that situation.

As for the not letting go - abundance mentality my friend:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/absolute-abundance

This is the holy grail of an article! You need to get some more ladies in your life my friend :)

So in summary:

- She's probably not being malicious, she likes you as a friend because you make her feel good.

- You will feel instantly better if you get more women in your life, trust me, theres shed loads out there that are just so sexy
 

Drck

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We should study great Japanese warriors and apply their style to seduction, everything would be so much easier...

So you are a man, and she is a woman. By nature, you as a man should be more dominant, meaning that you should put her in her place.

What are you doing today? Today she is only teasing you, playing around, tickling your feelings, texts you when she wants, tells you what she wants, emotionally sparring with you - and you are reacting to it. Ok, it is nice interaction but there are no results, you are not sleeping with her. She is leading the whole interaction, that's why you don't have any results with her...

Women are poor leaders, they go by their emotions - one day she feels this, the next day she feels that. One day she likes you, and the other day she goes out with another guy... Third day she tries to get you mad and envious, the day after she tells you she has real feelings for you... Then she texts you saying that she is out with another guy, and what you think about that... See that nonsense? You can't let women lead you, or you'll suffer endlesly without results...

Men are much better leaders, we go by logic. Our logic is quite simple: We can play here and there, we can tease and tickle her feelings, no problem, it is part of fun. But then it comes down to the results - is she serious enough to show up for a date? Is she willing to go past friendship zone and move things forward? Is she willing to do more than teasing in the potential relationship? That's where the man leads, that's where she - ideally - follows...

So we have to move ourselves from passive comfortable position to more leading, more dominant... We have to start attacking her comfort zone, little by little, we have to start hitting her with thoughts about sex, we have to start moving her towards the place where it can happen...

If you don't do anything, you could be easily sparring back and fort for couple more years, with no results. That's emotionally exhausting. So start gently pushing for what you want, and she will have only two choices: Either give in, or run away. Either way should be fine with you...
 

quickshade

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Wow both those post opened up my eyes. I knew I needed more women in my life but that article really explained it well. And everything described about her leading me right now is true. I guess the question I would ask in response to that is how do I dominate without being an asshole. How do I hint at that. I feel that when I try to be that person the girl calls me an asshole and I feel bad and back off. Is that normal or am I being to harsh and dominate?
 

JimmyB

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quickshade, I'm pretty sure the girl in that example is on the crazy end of the spectrum. I don't say that to let you off of the hook - what I mean is that she probably has low empathy and is willing to play around with your feelings for her own enjoyment. She might do this often with other people. She knows you like her so she feeds you these signs to get attention. That's another reason why you don't want to let on so much up front - it gives her free reign. Your mistake is continuing contact with this girl. She keeps doing this stuff because you're going along with it.

how do I dominate without being an asshole[?]

quickshade, that's the whole thing right there. That's what all of this is about - find that balance. Be the leader but make her a part of everything. Trial and error is a huge part of it. This works here, this doesn't work there, then one day you have a breakthrough and something clicks about women.
 
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quickshade

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So in other words drop her and use the knowledge I gained for the next one. Got it. I know this girl is going to push for contact though so should be interesting.
 
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