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What is different for, dare I say, very attractive men?

Xygnus

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I know how this sounds, and I understand it's a tricky subject, but I'm just looking for some good objective advice.
I would say I have fairly good experience with women, wasn't always like that, but I no longer get nervous in the presence of beautiful women. The
thing is, I'm a bit confused nowadays because I've never realized women found me very attractive until the last half of the year (I'm 25 now). How I came
to this conclusion was that I noticed I was getting lots of "IOI's" if you will, from beautiful women on campus, and pretty much anywhere. Even
girls that most men would leave their hands on a hot iron for would be tripping over their own words conversating with me. Over
the years my friends and family have hinted to it. I've run into a couple folks that tell me something along the lines of "I bet you get a ton of chicks huh?", while
I've had 1 girl accuse me of being a player. I did not even think about why they asked me these things, and so would I dismissed these comments as a joke and would
almost take it as an insult (I had 0 chicks at the time, and having low self-esteem I figured they were just being cruel.)
And so I read up on advice from Chase's articles, putting them to action. However, just some of the advice seems like it would be a bit out-of-character for me.

My question is, what's different? Another thing I'm wondering is, what kinda shortcuts
can attractive(like movie star looks) men take without going too far? I think my main problem right now is the boyfriend dilemma.
I'm thinking part of it is just me being a nice guy, but at the same time I wish I could just meet a girl for something casual (school is where I'm most comfortable,
although I should be practicing in public more often). I'm just not sure about being stuck on one girl even if she is super hot.

I'm just trying to explore the upper limits with some guidance beforehand. I want to be able to have casual relationships without
coming off as a man whore(perhaps that's an oxymoron, or it's very possible but my mental model is wrong). How would it go for cold approach vs. college
(social circle pretty much) classmate approach. I always feel I could've taken this girl or that girl to bed if I had just asked.. Like how should I lead into it?
 

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Xygnus said:
I noticed I was getting lots of "IOI's" if you will, from beautiful women on campus, and pretty much anywhere.
Don't mistake women laughing at you as then being "attracted" to you, it means they "like" you at the least.

Xygnus said:
However, just some of the advice from Chase seems like it would be a bit out-of-character for me.
Understanding the reasons behind what is said in the advice may make you feel more accustomed to it and in-character. After all we all want the same thing and we are biologically programmed the same. Well except for gays, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Xygnus said:
My question is, what's different? Another thing I'm wondering is, what kinda shortcuts
can attractive(like movie star looks) men take without going too far?
Being good looking gives you more girls eyeing you off and fantasizing about you but gives very little advantage when the seduction is in progress except in the early stages. Which means the not so good looking can do just as well as the hot guys.

Xygnus said:
I want to be able to have casual relationships........... Like how should I lead into it?
Pursue women the same regardless of what type of sexual relationship you want from her. Whether it be a GF, F Buddy or ONS.
 
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Looks matter. They always do. If you're getting compliments about your look on a consistent basis, it's safe to say that, on average, you'll be getting the attention of many a woman.

But it's just one advantage, albeit, if leveraged properly, a nice one to have. It becomes absolutely unfair if you've got the rest of your fundamentals down. The way you talk, walk, posture, vocal tonality, vibe, eye contact...

Also, if women perceive you as very good looking, your attainability will be a bit lower, usually, unless you're dealing with very confident and high self-esteem women. If you mix a lot of teasing into your verbals, you risk pushing them away (ie. push-pull dynamic). You want to be pulling them in. With good looks, fundamentals, etc, your overall perceived value is high... if you use too much humor, teasing, backhanded compliments, bust on her too much, you'll push her away, might send her into auto-rejection because she'll think you're out of her league and that you're just toying with her.

Rather, showing genuine interest in her, asking good questions, screen and qualify, warm vibes, sexual vibes... these will make her feel closer to you. Tone down the teasing and the funny, turn up the warm and the sexy. And of course connection buildng/deep dive. Always.
 
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@Good Vibes -
Don't mistake women laughing at you as then being "attracted" to you, it means they "like" you at the least.

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term IOI, but yes I'm familiar with signs of attraction.

Understanding the reasons behind what is said in the advice may make you feel more accustomed to it and in-character. After all we all want the same thing and we are biologically programmed the same. Well except for gays, not that there's anything wrong with that.

For sure, often times I find myself re-reading articles for better understanding. Not all of it sticks, for me at least. To clarify what I meant by out-of-character or in-character, is that a lot of the advice is geared towards the average looking guys. For example, if a guy who's a 10 tries to seduce a girl the way a 6 would, the girl would probably think he's a tryhard. And it's also funny that you mention gays, because I've had people label me as suspect. I think it's the preconceived notion that good looking guys are born with the natural ability to pull chicks, and when they actually try to pull chicks and don't know what they're doing (not moving things forward, pussy footing, etc.) he's perceived as gay and uninterested in women.

Pursue women the same regardless of what type of sexual relationship you want from her. Whether it be a GF, F Buddy or ONS.

Makes sense, but often times it's almost as if the girl is trying to frame me as a long term, then again it's most likely my own fault for not having a stronger frame. I recently took this girl home, we even got to my bedroom, and then I get last minute resistance. Her reasons were she "didn't think I was that kind of person", and also said "despite how I look, I'm not a slut." Ever since that experience, it seems to always be on the back of my mind now when meeting new women.. it's like a source of anxiety for me. Perhaps I'm overthinking things and should just keep moving along.

@J.J. -
You want to be pulling them in

Definitely need to work up the balls to do this! Sexiness is definitely not my strong point(I'm very left-brained). For me, the image part is easy, but being verbally and kinesthetically sexy leaves much to be desired. Any advice besides what Chase's articles have on this?
 
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