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What kind of girls did you always struggled with and did you improve?

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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If so, how?

I am asking because I am in this situation right now. I have been learning game for years and have managed to do well with a broad variety of girls out there but there are certain groups of girls that I just do terrible with and have had no success with. It is something I want to fix but don't really know how to get there. So I would like to hear from what you guys have gone through and how you improved your results with the kind of girls you always struggled with.
 

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Oh Pry,

Oh Pry said:
If so, how?

I am asking because I am in this situation right now. I have been learning game for years and have managed to do well with a broad variety of girls out there but there are certain groups of girls that I just do terrible with and have had no success with. It is something I want to fix but don't really know how to get there. So I would like to hear from what you guys have gone through and how you improved your results with the kind of girls you always struggled with.

Chase has sum up very nicely, here. You can look under his posts, "The Guide to Getting Girls Hot Girls (of any Type)"

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I’ve struggled with women that I consider “Alpha” – high education (and I don’t mean college or master’s degree), really great looks, high IQ, social, great position and income …
I’ve never nailed such woman, but my learning curve was HUGE during those interactions. To summarize, here are the main points that I have learned:

· Dominance is a must. She might be amused by “Beta”, she might surround herself with bunch of Betas and she truly likes them a lot, but if you want to nail her you have much higher chances being dominant as she has lots of Beta orbitals. Dominate such women is difficult, don't be surprised if you don't find balls to move things forward

· No hesitation. From second that you meet her you must have strong frame and don’t back up from it, don’t change it. You must be decided what you want BEFORE you meet her (e.g. whether to have her as GF or just casual sex). If you aim for sex that day, make sure that you can deliver

· You must be fast. I mean FAST. Those I met were bright, they move quickly, they think on their feet. If you are slow you can’t recognize the windows she’s giving you and you are gone. To see the window is not many times that easy, she will blend it into lots of words, she will blend it while interacting with other (Beta) men. You may only recognize the windows AFTER the interaction with her. You are walking home alone, you are thinking what has happened, and only then you finally get it – Oh Fuck, how did I miss that?! Fuck me! It’s too late, now it is only you and your hand. You must recognize signs/windows fast and ACT fast!

· No seduction skills will help you. There are no tricks, she sees 2-3 steps ahead of you and she is always at least 1 step ahead of you. The only trick is brutal honesty. Once you meet woman like that, drop all the seduction and PUA crap right there BEFORE you talk to her

· Do not talk about her with anyone (e.g. that you want to get her to your place and nail her). Shut the fuck up, don’t say a word even to your best friend or you are gone that second. Remember, if you like her your friends like her too, and they always talk. I did everything the “perfect” way but I got burnt on this one, she even told me. Keep it private, just you and her, no one else

· She is cute, she is hot and pleasant, there are all these high emotions and sparks, there are always those great vibes… She will even appear quite submissive, literally like a little girl so you can feel really great about yourself.But know that behind all of that is always this cold and calculating machine. Once she makes up her mind there is no mercy, she won’t change it no matter what you do

You probably think that all these apply to most girls as well, and it is true. If you can learn to have mindset like that the whole seduction actually becomes quite easy with most girls. The difference is that other girls will give you second and third choices if you screw up, they will date you and wait for you, whereas “Alpha” won’t...
 
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