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What seems to be the obvious conclusion from the pickup and money articles

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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There are two types of guys who are sexy,
1) the broke but captivating lover
2) the Dan blitzerian coke and yacht parties playboy.

Note that any amount of using money in the middle, and in particular spending money directly on women as opposed to on a lavish lifestyle, aka providing, is a fundamental turn off.

So the best strategy overall is to game entirely like a lover and don't spend any money on women at all, meanwhile save and invest it until you have enough such that the passive income can fund a cocaine and yacht party lifestyle.

Obviously most hot girls won't stay with lover boy for very long, but there is the rare exception who will stay with the entrepreneurial type who believes he will make it and understands the fact that he never buys her nice things is ultimately in her own best interest if she believes in her investment, as in, the man investing in himself and his portfolio will lead to a pot of gold at the end of the struggle. Obviously that was the right play for, e.g., conor Mac Gregor's wife. That said such women are rare and anyway you need to have enough lover value to reel them in in the first place, so be content with short flings with girls at the top of your lover oriented smv/fundamentals, until hopefully whatever hustle you are doing takes you to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, filled with fake tits floating in your Jacuzzis.

Not that you might not get an occasional additional lay making it rain in the club, or make an Ltr last a bit longer with an occasional dinner out, but a pretty obvious back of the envelope calculation regarding the marginal utility of additional sex relative to the exponential rise of wealth from saving and investment makes it clear that such choices, at least on the regular, are pretty stupid.
 
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Yeah it's good to save money and not use it on girls.

I feel like it also makes you stand out from most guys and gives her more opportunities to invest in you.
I once made-out with this girl in her car after she paid for my dinner.

However, it seems to me (and you can tell me how you feel about this) that if you're a male that's attractive enough (mindset) and has strong enough inner highstatus (honest signals)..

then in a Connor McGregor come-up type of situation, you'd get oceans of girls who'd want you to marry them, as opposed to the regular cookiecutter white picket fence type of guy (not busting on anyone, if that's their preferred style)

As a guy who currently lives with his folks, I've had many girls who wanted to date me for marriage (not my style), because of my belief in myself that I'm gonna be a huge success.

The longest relationship I was in was for a year,

the girl (a lot of guys would consider her an 8 or a 9 but I prefer not to put a number on her)

She kept trying to move it to marriage but because I communicated my views to her, she was fine with me building up a harem of girlfriends. Maybe she wasn't completely fine with it but she wanted to be with me so she became more open-minded in order to stay...this is because I made her earn it...

In my experience, the more you allow a girl to put into the relationship (not necessarily always a dating-relationship) the more she's going to value it and value you.


(It would have been nice if i had started answering her calls more.... towards the end of the year, I could have done better to let her know that did actually care about her...)


If you have the right frame, and if it's strong enough
then her otherworldly heavenly genetics become irrelevent...and you both share the frame that you are sexy and desirable as fuck.

The idea that tall people are attractive is just a mental frame... it's biological but it's genetic value is still relative to how well it operates in its environment

I just measured myself now

I'm like 5'3 or something.. this girl was maybe like 5cm taller than me,
from a prestigious family (apparently they own a big fancy doctors business thing)

Moral of the story:

As long as you have enough game and the right mindset, I feel like no girl or person is out of the playingfield. No matter their background, or how hot they are, or rich they are etc

I wouldn't say underdog-loving women are rare
I'd say it just depends on how good you are at game, or being an attractive man

Yes. I agree with you on the first point
Definitely don't spend money on girls...

rather give them the gift of investing in you



- Paul
 
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Skills

Tribal Elder
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Huge cope.....i say field test and date with having money and without having money

Money should be an individual happiness choice.... Are you willing to put yourself through the ups and downs, stresses, hussle of having money (months to years of pain and ups and downs then to have it substained in some cases, or loss it all or something)

or are you a minimalist without cope, in other a dude that is a truly minimalist and is happy with the lifestyle, or a dude that is comfortable being just average income....

Women should not be the defining factor but YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE.... if you put women as a deciding factor is a form of pedestilizing.... (but is good motivation, i made tons of money after break ups)

I seen naturals getting laid with money and without.... AS of now the dude having most success of my wings has money and tons of free time doing Dan Blitzirian light.... He has also a main and they pic girls together for 3 somes...

When i had money the good for pick up that most people don't address is the TIME FREEDOM, that allows you in some cases to do more pick ups and get in momentums (but this is subjective of how you are getting your money cause broke entrepreneurs have tons of free time)...

also philosophical reward, there is a subtle satisfaction and reward for myself when women just like me as a lover when i am in my mids 40s....

Yesterday i had a girl complain about my studio and how she wants a rich white guy.... but i fucked her when her logic did not want to :)
 

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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Man I am agreeing with you. As in the best thing to do is to play 100% lover game, never under circumstances buy women shit, or keep that very very minimal, and only spend it on a lifestyle that attracts women (cocaine and yachts) if and only if you have so much money flying out of your ass that spending some on the lifestyle will not hurt you financially.

Now having money flying out of your ass is a nice thing to aspire to anyway, regardless of women. So seeking to get there is not necessarily for women, but a by-product of chasing success in general. So it's something to go for in the long term anyway, and the party lifestyle with hotties in your hottub is a nice perk if and when you get there. But otherwise it makes zero sense to ever provide for a woman, and so the best thing is always do full on lover game. So full lover don't pay for shit until and unless you get to a bathing in money situation in which case yeah sure use it to get a Dan blitzerian lifestyle.
 
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