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What types of guys are generally getting the hot girls in your area?

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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While fundamentals themselves mean quite a lot when it comes to getting hot girls, I have found that certain kinds of styles, looks, and type of guys do well in some areas versus others. From my experience in Missouri, I found that the old money fraternity brother types and country boy types (preferably white, in most cases it is mandatory) tend to have the most success getting the hottest girls. Obviously the football players and athletes get theirs but I have found that in Missouri, it is those country boy types or the Polo wearing fraternity brothers at Mizzou who sleep with and date the hottest women in the state. Now on the other hand I have found that guys who move from Missouri to other places like NYC or LA tend to have a lot less success with hot girls because there isn't the whole thirst for a country boy like there was in Missouri.

I am thinking that maybe this thread can serve as somewhat of a guide to the men who might be moving to certain areas of the USA or even the world. Sure, things like fundamentals are crucial because even if a guy fits the mold of being the type that women in an area go for, his insecurities and lack of game will still leave him a sexless virgin because he lacks the game. On the other hand it can give some insight into how to dress or what kind of style to go for if you want to get girls in a certain part of the world.

One other issue I hope my thread can somewhat address is that of race. An old friend of mines who is an Indian guy was having his struggles in Missouri but as soon as he moved further west, he has been cleaning up and getting the kind of hot girls that the country boys in Missouri get.
 

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Same shit back when I used to live down south, it was the fratty country boy types or the athletes (baseball or football players) who were getting the hottest girls. It seems to be the case for almost all conservative areas that fraternity brothers, good ol boys, and athletes get the hottest girls while all other guys are screwed. I decided to move and haven't been happier since then.

Btw, Asian and Indian men can do quite amazing with women on the west coast if they have their shit together.
 

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If you're asking about guys who generally don't work on these sort of "skills" much and just generally have a lifestyle that attracts women then it's not exactly rocket science.

If someone has some sort of status:
Money, Looks, talent (music, sport, etc...)
then yeah, there's no denying it. Their lifestyle *helps* in bringing a lot of people and in turn a lot of good women into their lives. Therefore their opportunities are greater without having to extend the same amount of effort as your average Joe.

Now, on to your *real* question... can we have yet another racial debate? Please, Please god, no....
 

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Estate said:
If you're asking about guys who generally don't work on these sort of "skills" much and just generally have a lifestyle that attracts women then it's not exactly rocket science.

If someone has some sort of status:
Money, Looks, talent (music, sport, etc...)
then yeah, there's no denying it. Their lifestyle *helps* in bringing a lot of people and in turn a lot of good women into their lives. Therefore their opportunities are greater without having to extend the same amount of effort as your average Joe.

Now, on to your *real* question... can we have yet another racial debate? Please, Please god, no....

I find the race thing annoying when people whine about it and talk about how they can't get laid because of being X race. Then again I do remember reading your posts about how you say being an Irish guy in Boston (assuming you have an accent) is a disadvantage or just not that big of an advantage. I bet if you went more south or to the midwest, you would be doing even better than you are now. From my very own experience, I feel like finding locations where you can further sell what you are is a big advantage to have in terms of game.
 

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Fuji,

I didn't say it was an advantage or a disadvantage. My point is, it doesn't matter.

Some girls will love my accent. Some hate it.
Certain "types" of women I am more naturally their type, some I am not.

But it's the same anywhere in the world. I hear guys here saying how much more hot and easy to women in Europe are. When I lived in Europe I heard how guys think women in America and much hotter and sexually liberal.

The point is... neither are true... it's a case of the grass always being greener for some people.
At one point I had an accent and was being told I must be getting all the hot women in Boston, yet I wasn't. I had no game. In the beginning.
Then I learned to get better with women and now I do get these women... but it proves the accent had nothing to do with it. It's a non factor. Yet the guys who see me with these women just go "Uh, well if I had his accent, I'd get those women too"... while it's not true, they just refuse to work on themselves to get there.

They use excuses.... just like these threads... it's all pointless.
The guys who bitch and moan about all this stuff are the same guys who just don't go out there and work. So most of us are tired of it.
If we say them putting in serious work and getting some serious skills yet frequently coming up against racist women, then we'd have a problem. But we NEVER hear that. Infact, in the few FR's from Altair, he's actually talking to women and they are being polite to him, yet he displays a lack of game. That's why they aren't hooking up with him. But he turns it around that they are racist. It's ridiculous, we're all sick of hearing it.
 

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This isn't about not being unable to get women because of your race though, it is about appealing to women in a given area based on what they find attractive. I can tell you right now that a hipster would not have too much success in some parts of the USA I lived in while in other areas he would clean house. It is not about black and white or Irish and American, it is about knowing what kind of guys have success in certain places and I have personally seen a difference myself as a guy who has traveled across the USA. The good ol country boy types did well in the area I used to live in but where I live now, women would not look twice at them or find them attractive.

As for race, I did have some success in the part of the country I used to live in but as soon as I moved more west, my success skyrocketed as an Asian guy. You should always be on top of your game but certain kinds of guys do better in some areas than others. I say this as a guy who has actually gone out there and done the work, not as a whiner, this shit really matters man. Korean guy here btw.
 

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I think it's much more productive to be pragmatic than to go based on hypotheticals and mindless theorizing.

That being said, it's much more important to focus on your own set of core values and determine what makes you happy and content in your own life before you set out developing the kind of persona you want to project to the world around you.

For example, most men actually don't enjoy nightclubs. They don't understand the dynamics of nightclubs, and despite the fact that a plethora of women congregate in these environments, it's a horrible environment for men with an agenda for meeting them. Nightclubs are designed to attract women by using men with wealth and resources (bottles, VIP service). And yet, the dating industry routinely advises men to meet women in nighttime venues like clubs almost exclusively. Bars are less so, and much more conducive to meeting and conversation, but even still, not all men enjoy drinking and loud pubs/lounges.

Ideally, you go out and explore and find out what you enjoy doing, build a lifestyle that is conducive to socializing and do more and more of it, find what you like, what you're good at, what types of activities and venues you can meet people that you share values with, and make friends and meet women through those avenues. That's where you'll meet women who you'll click with the most.

Eg. if you're a shy, introverted computer programmer/ engineer/ artist/ teacher, then you're probably going to have a hell of a time trying to connect with a 21 year old party girl at a club on Sunset strip in Hollywood.

Even still, if you really want to get good, you have to specialize. It's hard to be a jack-of-all-trades, and even if you think you're getting various types of women, you'll notice that the women you attract are a lot more similar than you think. Even across races. They'll typically be more similar in personality, lifestyle, intellect, etc. Generally speaking of course.

If your goal is to appeal to multiple "audiences", then you've got to be a renaissance man. You need to be cultured, relatable, have knowledge and empathy and the ability to be a true social chameleon and mask certain traits that are less relatable and turn up aspects of your personality that are relevant to the people around you. That's a heck of a lot of social monitoring and a high level of social awareness and adaptability you're looking at. Oh, and you have to be extremely nonjudgmental.

So yeah, certain types of men do better in certain areas. It's because they only have reference experiences dealing with a certain type of women, and they lack the ability to connect and empathize with others. It takes a lot of experience, a lot of mingling and rubbing shoulders with different types of people in order to connect and relate to the vast array of women who come from different backgrounds, socioeconomic statuses, upbringings, racial and cultural roots, etc.

Basically, you have to be a consummate Renaissance man. A Casanova, who was the Ideal lover, and could calibrate and cater to the very type and interests of many different kinds of women.
 
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Look at who the OP is... and look at his post history.
This was another attempt to start YET ANOTHER race thread, bombshell thread, whatever. I think we're all over it.
 

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OP is a white guy though, all he has said in his posts about blonde bombshells is that they are hard to get even for white guys and that certain guys do better with them than others. I know this blonde bombshell thing has been beaten to death but Estate, I must admit that you have some serious issues with paranoia. The guy did not even mention anything about race and here you are acting like this is another blonde bombshell thread. I think you need some work on your temperament and emotions, you seem to see a conflict when there really is none. It is not just this thread either, I have seen you throw a fit in countless threads and you are the main member doing so. It is no ways productive or helpful.

I agree with the part about nightclubs vs bars vs finding the venues where you excel in. All that said though, I have to admit that this can also apply to your location and the region of the country you're in. I used to live in Louisiana where country music and rap music dominated the party scenes. People down there were either "hood" or "country", I found both of those to be annoying. I never really saw myself as a cowboy and because I didn't mix with that culture, I had my struggles even regardless of race. I also found that it was a bad place for any guy that was cultured and artsy, it's the fucking south afterall lol!

Now I am out west where there is more variety and diversity in tastes and types of men who can do well. A guy like me who is more of a modern guy that keeps up with the latest entertainment trends has his pick of women to choose from while in Louisiana it was all about what football team is winning what. I find that is where location also plays a big role and I see a variety of men in my area getting laid.
 

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Fellas,

Let's keep this thread on track here, or I will lock it like I have with previous threads of a similar nature.

This thread is about what general looks/fashion(s) have seemed to garner the most success for you in specific areas around the US/world. If we start talking about race and/or blonde bombshells, this thread will be locked.

Stay on topic, everyone.

Thanks,

Franco
 
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