What You Think of The Other Methods?

[MakeHerHappy]

Give your own opinion.

I was just wondering if the other old methods like The Mystery Method (Mystery), Annihilation Method (Neil Strauss), Speed Seduction (Ross Jeffries), Pandora's Box System (Vin DiCarlo), etc. are effective?

I tried reading The Mystery Method and from my point of view the whole method kinda look like scripted, and the openers are not natural (did you see the two men/women fighting outside?) when there is nothing happening really. Speed Seduction - seducing women by what they called Anchoring - basically by hand gestures, or by binding good memory into an object then giving them to women to remember both your conversations by. The other two were something I heard from the internet seduction boards and haven't really read about them.

So what you guys think? Did anyone tried any of this methods?

 

[Drck]

IMO, everything 'works' but you have to put it in a perspective.

A guy who is a beginner doesn't really know much; he is usually shy, he has no experience, no social circle, he doesn't know how to react and so on.

So learning a 'method' is a big step ahead, it opens the door. A method gives the guy some guidance, how he should behave, what he should say, how he should react... He sees examples, there is some structure that he can follow...

However, once he learns these things he may realize that the 'method' or style is not really necessary. Now he can drop the method and still be good with girls because he knows what to do.

I'm familiar with Ross Jeffries speed seduction, I listened to the tapes and read the material. I never memorized words/patterns though, but I believe they are effective for reason that they are suggestive of sex. IMO Ross J. has a great insight into seduction, I have no doubt that his success is quite high. But again, once you understand the background of it you'l realize that you don't really need all of that stuff. Ross J. is also using NLP (Neurolinguistic language programming). That is quite powerful stuff, it is basically something like reprogramming your brain using various imagination techniques.

Anchoring is part of NLP, it is based on quite simple principle that was discovered by Pavlov: You give the dog a food and you ring a bell. Dog starts salivate because he smells food. You repeat several times. Then whenever you ring the bell dog starts salivating, even without a food. It works the same on humans, say you elevate good emotions in a girl, and you for example touch her. That is your anchor. You repeat several times, and next time you touch her her memory will automatically generate good emotions.

If you as a guy memorize some language patterns and use your touch as an anchor, and if you do it naturally, she won't have a clue that you are running some patterns or anchors. For her it is just an interaction with a guy, she doesn't associate touching with anchor.

If you decide to use it be careful as some people are familiar with NLP. For example, I know a guy who is very good, and because I am familiar with NLP I recognize right away when others try to use it. So we talk, and all of the sudden I realize that he is trying to imitate me, e.g. blink when I blink, trying to match my body language and so on. He might generate quite a good connection with others because others are not aware of that, but to me he looks like an idiot and the effect is the exact opposite than he intended.

Personally, I think it is great to be familiar with different styles, but at the same time I would drop all that fancy seduction crap including NLP and patterns, and just work on honesty and sincerity with that girl. If she likes you she will like you regardless your experience, and if she doesn't like you no seduction tricks will change it anyway.

Try to see it from her point of view: If she likes a guy she will naturally want to get to know him better, so she will give him the opportunity. So he has to step up and take the opportunity, he has to show that he is interested in her and wants to move things forward: go on a date, get physical, be interested in having sex. If he is normal about it (meaning sincere), he will get much further than if he were to pretend to be some great seducer with amazing NLP skills...