What's the thing with athletes?

[cocogi]

If there is just one category of men who gets the hottest girl with no game and effort, that's the athletes.

Even extremely famous actors have to put at least a tiny bit of game into it (Leonardo DiCaprio once described his game routine at parties) - but for successful athletes it looks like hot girlfriends just materialize as soon as they sign a contract.

It's not just the stars. Every time I look up an hot model, it appears she is dating some obscure soccer player even I have never heard of, sometimes playing in a second-tier league or being signed in an ok-ish team but never have played an official game.


I can totally understand how an athlete can be attractive to women (fit, wealthy, young, acclaimed) - but what I don't understand is why the situation is *THAT* different compared to men with a similar standing.

I personally know quite a few men - who work, for example, in finance or own their own business - who hit the gym, have a great body and make more money than an average athlete - and yet they are average or below-average with women, having to work very hard for pussy.

What I don't understand is how exactly these athletes actually *get to know* girls. They play a sport with all men, 99% of their fans are men, and training occupy most of their time.
I could totally get how they would date above-average women, but I don't get how it totally gets to another level, with every single signed professional footballer/basketballer automatically getting the top-tier girl.

In other roles - you sometimes see some famous Hollywood actor, model, rockstar, or other celebrity sex-symbol with an average or ugly girlfriend/wife, or staying single for a while. On the other hand, you could look up every single professional soccer player and you won't find one who isn't engaged with a hottie. It's 90% or more, it's almost like they're made in factories.

It is so ubiquitous that, statistically, it can't be attributed to just game or something personal to the person - there is virtually not a single professional star who doesn't get a hot girlfriend if he so wishes - so I think the focus shall be on the profession itself, on the role it enties in society.


What I've come to the conclusion to is that athletes basically represent the archetype of the 'warrior' in present times.
In ancient times, it was a given that the hero warrior would get the best women - and in our distorted society, somehow these roles have been given to professional sportsmen. (How we exactly got to that, I don't know.)

 

[Chase]

@cocogi,

Do you know much about athlete game or are you assuming hot women mystically appear on their arms (or on their dicks)?

I honestly do not know much about what athletes do to pick up chicks. The ones I do know:

• They will go to nightclubs in whatever city they're in following a game/match and pick up girls from the club.
• They will use social media, responding to fans on there, as this Business Insider article lays out.
• There's a Wikihow article for women on how to meet pro athletes. It seems fairly legit.

If athletes do have an advantage (and again, I am not sure), I would guess it comes from having both fame (which actors also have) but also greater accessibility (which actors do not have) -- e.g., athletes will celebrate in a big nightclub after a game, one that ordinary women can attend to go try their luck at, and usually it is even announced which club they'll be at, which lets all the women who want them congregate there. Actors go out secretly, usually alone or in a small group, and you won't know where they're going, so there's no chance for the women who want to meet them to congregate there and start flinging their panties at them.

In other roles - you sometimes see some famous Hollywood actor, model, rockstar, or other celebrity sex-symbol with an average or ugly girlfriend/wife, or staying single for a while. On the other hand, you could look up every single professional soccer player and you won't find one who isn't engaged with a hottie. It's 90% or more, it's almost like they're made in factories.

Yeah, you are right about that. That's interesting:

Athletes Who Got Married In 2022

Whether they have a secret ceremony, or something so opulent it's all over the newsstand, there’s nothing quite like famous athletes getting married. Now that it's a new year, it's time to start talking about the athletes getting married in 2022. This list will catalog all of the recent athlete...

www.ranker.com

Just hypothesizing here, but:

• Artistic celebrities, like actors, rock stars, etc., are probably looking for artistic/emotional connections as much as they are looks
  
  
• Athletes are hyper-masculine, probably don't care a whole lot about the emotional side of things, and are just looking for a hyper-feminine chick who looks really good

Could also be a factor of how they are meeting these chicks. If you're really interested, you could always do a deep dive on the athlete marriages of the past few years and find out what each couple's "how they met" story was. There are probably going to be themes that pop up.

I don't think it's so much a factor of "actors and rock stars can't find super hot babes" as it is these guys are simply choosing different women.

Even in real life, I have known guys who were dating really hot chicks, who then dumped those chicks and married ugly girls. From the outside, you look at it and are like, "Dude, WTF," but the hot girl was missing something the guy wanted while the ugly girl had stuff he wanted more.

Probably something like that going on here.

As for the finance and business-owner guys, the problem they have is the women do not know them.

Back to what we talked about in this article:

Power does not attract women.

There is this huge, tremendous misconception that what ultimately drives women's attraction is "power" or "resources" in men. It is actually almost the opposite - very, very few women (and very few hot women) are attracted by power itself, even in its highest form. Politicians, especially...

www.skilledseducer.com

If the girl gets to KNOW the finance guy / business guy enough, and discovers he is a better catch than the athlete, and also sees him in enough situations where a bunch of other hot girls are competing for him, then yes, she can come to value him higher than the athlete and will chase him harder.

The athlete has an advantage with fame though -- just perceptually he looks higher value.

Perception is everything in the context of initial romantic attraction...

Chase

 

[Zoro]

I imagine it's similar to being a musician. I used to be in a popular local band. Here's how the magic works:

• It's a very public and cool thing where you are performing as the center of attention - lots of social proof.
• You have a bunch of close friends who are also cool (from the team/band), so your social circle is potentially HUGE and everyone wants a piece of you due to the social proof. You have a lot of access to cool parties, after game events, and going out clubbing after the game in a new city with your whole crew of "high status" teammates.
• There are girls who musicians are their type, and go to concerts and hang out in social circles with musicians. I remember I broke the news to one of these types of girls that I quit my band while on a date, the look on her face was priceless! I imagine there is a similar type of girl who just really digs athletes and makes an effort to get into their circles.
• Even girls who aren't specifically into you just because you're an athlete/musician, it still is a unique way to make a living and is intriguing. And just like musicians, athletes are kind of expected to do well with women, so again more social proof.
• The more popular your team/band, the better all these factors work to your favor. I was a musician in a mildly popular local band, and I had a LOT of opportunities with women because of it.

Don't think you don't need game though. I did not have great game then and that meant even though I had a lot of opportunities, I wasn't getting laid consistently. Still it does make a big difference and I dated some beautiful women during that time with low effort. My bandmate who did have game, was banging everyone.

I personally know quite a few men - who work, for example, in finance or own their own business - who hit the gym, have a great body and make more money than an average athlete - and yet they are average or below-average with women, having to work very hard for pussy.

They are lacking the high levels of social proof and bountiful social opportunities that athletes have. That is where the magic happens.

In other roles - you sometimes see some famous Hollywood actor, model, rockstar, or other celebrity sex-symbol with an average or ugly girlfriend/wife, or staying single for a while. On the other hand, you could look up every single professional soccer player and you won't find one who isn't engaged with a hottie. It's 90% or more, it's almost like they're made in factories.

I imagine actors have some of the above benefits too, but fame probably hurts attainability. Whereas a musician or an athlete that is not famous, but has social proof and bountiful socializing will intrigue most women without intimidating them too much.

I've thought about why actors seems to date subpar women. Fame is probably a more difficult lifestyle than people realize, and I imagine some women just can't relate to him and the actor cannot relate to her non-famous lifestyle. So he ends up with someone who he clicks on a deeper level and that's who he DATES. But is he still easily able to meet hot women and have opportunities to sleep with them, due to social proof and big social circle? I'd bet on it.