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Lol class I’m taking got average dudes. I hardly hang out with anyone. I’m more like that mysterious guy in the corner at the back if that makes sense. Which is something I’m used to anyways. Not big on hanging out with lames …I’d rather be alone…only swooping in when it counts and go unnoticed. Sigma does fit me.
Anyways, one day after class I see a guy on a forex app trading. I’m a bit well versed with the subject …a neighbor friend had introduced me to it days ago. I ask him curiously if he is good at it and if he is doing it demo or with a real account in a way that kinda implies I’m already doing it myself lol. Yeah, I know that’s too personal a question to ask someone (shouldn’t do so early on) but he was more of an acquaintance at this point so I broke the rule. He tells me that he is using a demo account for a while before he goes “all-in”.
This guy seems worth my time so far. We really kick back at guy-talk for almost two hours. I’m that good in convo with women and men alike. I open lots of conversational loops …we talk about skills, self-development, the matrix and much more. Finally a guy I can relate with lol, at least in this class.
I am really liking it that we are relating on lots of subjects. Anyway, two hours in we hit a library and he asks me to share some books I got on my phone which I do (no game or seduction ones) once he gives me his phone. Made friends so quickly that he trusts me that much to go through his personal stuff. As I’m going through his files to check if he got them ,he seems uncomfortable for some reason lol. I am seeing basic seduction books I read years ago lol…I’m about to delete them thinking I didn’t delete them. I usually delete everything that didn’t do it for me or wasn’t too complex for my taste off my phone or laptop.
We had hardly talked about seduction that deep into our talk and as I delete a basic seduction book after another he stops me lmao. I then ask him if he reads such books and he asks me if I do. I tell him he is reading the wrong stuff as I go through the files. I see How To Text Girls By Chase and I smile and tell him you should be reading this. He still is amazed that I’m into seduction materials and was worried that I’ll judge him…makes sense why he was uncomfortable.
I then tell him he’s been going at it all wrong as I make fun of him. I talk about game as a whole but more as a way to read his mind which I’m really good at, to a point. I want to see if he has an open-mind and whether my bait will get him to want to learn about it. He “buys into” it and I talk about how girls can chase a guy, how you can get them to feel as if you’ve known each other for years...name it, basically anything about what the blog really entails. He sits there soaking it up and I’m impressed he doesn’t start to ramble “game doesn’t really work” or “Just be yourself, bro” bs.
We are talking in hushed tones and once he shows me a willingness to learn I suggest that we hit a silent place away from judgmental ears lol. He literally skipped a class to listen to me. We find a place and we talk (I talk as he listens) for three hours straight. I have read 2500+ articles *wink*. I talk about my seduction journey and some of my adventures with women and he is eating it up.
I don’t tell him the name of the blog but I suggest that he should check out How To Make Girls Chase ebook. He has it but sadly he isn’t give me the enthusiasm I expected. I think most guys are not that really into self-improvement as they are worried about other stuff…family, work, business and stuff.
Days later we talk again and I give him an overview of HTMGC section one but it seems overwhelming to him. I tell him to read through it and ask me any questions once he has gone through it. He hasn’t finished the book yet …*meh*…yet I had read it myself in a single sitting. Yeah we should go at our own pace with most worthwhile things but to succeed in anything you should ask yourself, “How bad do you want it”.
Just a ramble-y backstory that was essential for this lay
Anyways, one day after class I see a guy on a forex app trading. I’m a bit well versed with the subject …a neighbor friend had introduced me to it days ago. I ask him curiously if he is good at it and if he is doing it demo or with a real account in a way that kinda implies I’m already doing it myself lol. Yeah, I know that’s too personal a question to ask someone (shouldn’t do so early on) but he was more of an acquaintance at this point so I broke the rule. He tells me that he is using a demo account for a while before he goes “all-in”.
This guy seems worth my time so far. We really kick back at guy-talk for almost two hours. I’m that good in convo with women and men alike. I open lots of conversational loops …we talk about skills, self-development, the matrix and much more. Finally a guy I can relate with lol, at least in this class.
I am really liking it that we are relating on lots of subjects. Anyway, two hours in we hit a library and he asks me to share some books I got on my phone which I do (no game or seduction ones) once he gives me his phone. Made friends so quickly that he trusts me that much to go through his personal stuff. As I’m going through his files to check if he got them ,he seems uncomfortable for some reason lol. I am seeing basic seduction books I read years ago lol…I’m about to delete them thinking I didn’t delete them. I usually delete everything that didn’t do it for me or wasn’t too complex for my taste off my phone or laptop.
We had hardly talked about seduction that deep into our talk and as I delete a basic seduction book after another he stops me lmao. I then ask him if he reads such books and he asks me if I do. I tell him he is reading the wrong stuff as I go through the files. I see How To Text Girls By Chase and I smile and tell him you should be reading this. He still is amazed that I’m into seduction materials and was worried that I’ll judge him…makes sense why he was uncomfortable.
I then tell him he’s been going at it all wrong as I make fun of him. I talk about game as a whole but more as a way to read his mind which I’m really good at, to a point. I want to see if he has an open-mind and whether my bait will get him to want to learn about it. He “buys into” it and I talk about how girls can chase a guy, how you can get them to feel as if you’ve known each other for years...name it, basically anything about what the blog really entails. He sits there soaking it up and I’m impressed he doesn’t start to ramble “game doesn’t really work” or “Just be yourself, bro” bs.
We are talking in hushed tones and once he shows me a willingness to learn I suggest that we hit a silent place away from judgmental ears lol. He literally skipped a class to listen to me. We find a place and we talk (I talk as he listens) for three hours straight. I have read 2500+ articles *wink*. I talk about my seduction journey and some of my adventures with women and he is eating it up.
I don’t tell him the name of the blog but I suggest that he should check out How To Make Girls Chase ebook. He has it but sadly he isn’t give me the enthusiasm I expected. I think most guys are not that really into self-improvement as they are worried about other stuff…family, work, business and stuff.
Days later we talk again and I give him an overview of HTMGC section one but it seems overwhelming to him. I tell him to read through it and ask me any questions once he has gone through it. He hasn’t finished the book yet …*meh*…yet I had read it myself in a single sitting. Yeah we should go at our own pace with most worthwhile things but to succeed in anything you should ask yourself, “How bad do you want it”.
Just a ramble-y backstory that was essential for this lay
BACKGROUND AND SUBTLE CHICK -APPROACH
Days after introducing the guy to what good seduction is all about, he wants to stick by me. Anyway, we hit the restaurant where Mary approached me. We are to grab some lunch and I see a curvy lady as I talk with my buddy. I tell my buddy that I’m gonna approach her and I joke with switching off the lights (her looks don’t do it that much for me) while doing the deed with her lol. Not bad though, I’ll give her a chance.
She picks up her lunch and sits exactly where I was seated with Mary and her friend . Still in line myself while my buddy is behind me. Once it’s my turn, I look around and decide to go sit opposite her …and leave my buddy waiting in line. I’m chill and I’m enjoying my meal already before I see my buddy looking around and walks to where I am.
We are talking and he brings up fundamentals but in a subtle way…more like a code that we two can decipher. I give an overview of the same and branch off into making yourself sexy (which I am). Thanks Chase. I talk for a while about it but don’t go that much deep into it for obvious reasons.
We talk a bit on some topics I really can’t recall and we end up talking about AI and ChatGpt. The chick looks at us after a while…could be she had been eavesdropping. She then jumps into the convo and asks my buddy what does he do. I look away …I know she wants me...I can see it. She is trying to engage me but I’m not that forthcoming with her …just to give her a hard time lol.
She asks my buddy what I do and as much as I am maintaining an aura of mystery and intrigue, my buddy gives me away. Lol, don’t go out with amateurs. I had literally nudged him with my left foot but since the chick was insistent he told her. “Ok, implement a different strategy, Chad …now that some guy mucked it up lol.” “ROGER THAT”, I tell myself.
I engage her once she talks of what she does…business and art as a pastime. My buddy is the talkative guy while I’m more the silent one. I only intervene to thread-cut once things seem to head down the wrong lane…boring land. As much as she seems to talk to my buddy, she is seeking my attention…looking at me, lurching at me a bit across the table and stuff. We talk a bit about business (really love it) and I deep dive her on art but don’t make it that intimate a vibe with my buddy around.
She talks of how lucky she is to have met us partly because we relate with her and partly because we might be potential “tools’’ for her business. I smirk as she flirts with me more and more nodding my head saying “lucky you” as I look at her with my eyelids dropped and with a sexy voice. I take note of the back-pocketing but really don’t care that much about it. We’ll be heading down a different way anyways, missy.
Once on a high note, I tell her that she sounds fun and that we should talk more sometime. I give her my phone and she is excited as she punches in her digits. I ask her to save her name too after she’s done. She gives me her phone but I don’t take it lol as I let her enter my digits herself.
She seems worth my time now …gives off a professional vibe and comes across intelligent, which are really important things to me with women. I genuinely compliment her hair but she can’t hear me …my voice changes with girls I’m attracted to. She asks me to pardon myself and after pausing for a while she still can’t hear me. I command her to scoot closer over to me (my side?) as I motion to her with my left hand. She doesn’t comply twice after I command her. And she shakes her head the second time I command her to.
No skin off my nose tho. My buddy engages her for a while and she talks of a deadline she has to meet for a project she’s working on but adds that she will be free later during the day. She leaves and my buddy stares at her hips as she walks away .I’m like meh whatever.
He is amazed that I just number closed a chick, minutes in and asks me “Is it usually this easy”. More like he is amazed that I talked to her as if we were long time friends and that she was into me from the go. I shake my head almost laughing …I’m like “This is my lifestyle ,son.”
I then correct him that one should be intriguing and mysterious. And he says he really wasn’t aware when I was hinting at him to avoid giving away too much too soon .Anyway , I tell him we learn through mistakes. Again, water under the bridge. I got this bro.
FOLLOW-UP AND THE MEET (wait a pull?)
Around 20 minutes later as we are walking with my buddy I send her a
She doesn’t reply to this tho…she is flirty and laughs to chase frames in person but “dodges” it over phone. Doesn’t seem big a texter…as it is with most professional chicks.
I tell her that I really enjoyed talking with her and check if her free schedule still stands. She agrees to my ask out text and I send her a confirmation text. My buddy is still amazed of the progress I’m making with her given the fact that she is older than both of us (4 years my senior)
We are to meet at around 5 PM. I head back to my place and do some online work and clean up my place just in case I pull.
I start heading towards our meet up venue, shooting her a pre-date check-in text but she isn’t online. Before 6 pm I figure that I might as well give her a call. She tells me she is still working on her project but she’ll be done in 20 minutes. I tell her to make it 15 but she insists on 20.I insist on 15 again but she still says 20. Oh well. I tell her okay …not losing my leadership role here . I tend to break rules strategically in a way.
I take a stroll and stop to read Give and Take on my phone. 25 min later she hits me up telling me she’s done and I tell her where to meet me. We are to head to a gazebo then bounce to a different location but she says she’s tired and would like coffee. She is a coffee-addict and talks of how grumpy she usually is when she doesn’t take it. We head towards a coffee shop and I lead her as we do.
She is giving off a superior-like aura partly because she thinks just because she’s older I’m inexperienced. But I remain unfazed. Got skin in the game. We talk about coffee and then the age thing comes up. I don’t tell her my age but ask her if she thinks of herself as that old. She laughs and asks me what I think as she seeks to qualify herself to me saying that she’s not that old. She wraps her arm around my waist as she does this.
I tell her as much as younger women have beauty and amazing bodies, I tend to find them not that mature or worldly enough after talking to them for a while. She agrees and then brings up astrology talking of how much she loves it. She asks me what’s my zodiac sign and I tell her to take a guess. She takes two shots but fails as I urge her to try again while giving her a hint the third time.
She gets it the third time and I reward her. She then tells me I come across bold and dominant. I reward her again telling her she’s that good in reading people. She tells me she hasn’t met a guy before who could command her around lol …leave alone a younger guy than her doing so…showboating she’s a bigass woman to imply that she’s older …makes sense why she wasn’t complying to my demands as much as they ended with a high intonation (question-like) and usually work with other chicks. She’s a bit experienced but nothing is that new under the sun for me this far.
I put on my A game since it seems she wants to call the shots, just like she does with every other run-of-the-mill chump, just because she has a few years on me. SMH. I’m that refined most of the time but tend to tone it down with more younger women. Still remain unfazed and put on a bored look every time she gets boring.
I make cold-reads about her and she agrees to all of them. I’m really enjoying talking to her as she opens more and more about herself as I interrupt her now and then when relating. She orders and pays coffee for both of us and I joke about how the staff is slow. She agrees and I ask her if she likes it fast. She gets it, laughs and gives me a skeptical look then shakes her head.
I lead and tell her to sit next to me once we are taking seats but she sits opposite me. I ask her why would she sit that far and she says, “Because I want to.” I put on a bored look as she starts to ask me get-to-know -you questions. I don’t answer some and keep turning it back to her. We are more similar and she keeps saying she’s glad that she met me. She makes a joke of not being sure whether the coffee is sweet or I’m the sweeter one as she looks at me dreamily as if she wants to figure me out. Heck she wishes that she met me 5 years earlier.
We talk about art and business which am that well-versed at. She asks me to help her do something that I’m that well versed at and I lie to her “I’m not that well-versed at it” lol. Good luck for any woman trying to use me or back-pocket me. She looks at me hoping that I would help her and I don’t feel sorry for it…matter of fact I add that I am not up to snuff when doing things for others and tend to feel they are using me for me for my skills which tends to give me headaches.
We then fluff a bit and I would like to see her pieces of art. She wants to show me pictures of it over at Instagram but her phone is almost dead (1%).She asks for my phone and I ask her what for as I clear my search history(seduction stuff) smoothly lol. She wants to search them and I tell her I’m not on social media. She asks me why and I tell her I like the mystery and besides I am not big on scrolling through mindless stuff seeking dopamine hits after another. Don’t really recall what I added verbatim but glad I got her seeing things my way.
I screen and qualify her on being confident and open-minded and contrast how close minded most people really are. Two dudes sit close next to us and we are lost in our bubble to really bother. As we talk, she asks me where I stay and I tell her. For some reason, she wants to relate with everything I say and explicitly show how similar we are. I seed the pull with a bottle of wine after a few minutes into talking.
PULL?
We leave the venue and people look at us as we are leaving…most think of her as a catch I would bet. We are headed for the same direction since she lives few blocks away from where I’m staying. I ask her the golden question and she says she likes working out…makes sense about the ass. We then fluff a bit and I bring up my fairy tale topic and she says she doesn’t believe in them. She asks me if I do and I use a boyfriend disqualifier .She laughs and asks me who hurt me and I tell her I’m not that sure about relationships anymore in a neutral way.
She talks of her ex-boyfriend chasing him ever since they broke up. Turns out the guy was too possessive, domineering and insecure. I thread cut but talk the normal stuff about people doing relationships just because everyone else is doing it. We fluff a bit more and I set non-judgmental, discretion and liberation frames when she asks me what do I think of hedonistic women. She is eating it up and I run the mental g-spot gambit when talking about most women not being in touch with their bodies.
I fractionate out after a while and we talk a bit about books and turns out we have read similar books. We have a deep connection this far and there is sparks in the air. She can’t help wrapping her arm around me as she lays her head on my shoulder. We cross the road and I use the protective touch on her.
We talk a bit and we are now closer to my place. She asks me where I stay again and I assure her some few blocks away. We come to a fork in the road and she asks me if I’m taking the right fork which leads her to her friend’s place where she’s currently staying. I am taking the left fork and before I can persist she’s already crossing the road lol. I ask her if she’s sure she has to go and she says yes. Oh well.
I think she was worried her phone was dead and didn’t trust me enough yet to come with me despite our deep connection.
FOLLOW UP AFTER MESSY PULL
I arrive at mine and find a text from her:
She wants to keep the convo going it seems. I tell her had a good time …hope she made it safe. We chat a bit after watching a movie she had recommended to me but again she’s isn’t big a texter.
I give it a day and ask her out again during the night…
Next day I wake up but log in to my Whatsapp later during the day only to find double texts from her one in the morning saying that she’s free and her asking if my schedule fits in and another saying she has gone to tutor some kids on art but will let me know once she’s done.
My schedule is pretty much open and I let her know 5 pm works for me. She agrees and I am about to head out .15 min later she texts me a hey. I tell her I’m running late but will make it there in a few. I am walking towards our meet up spot but I still don’t see her. I stroll around and she is still no-show. She texts me back laughing saying she hasn’t yet left her house.
I text her back that ice cream is on whoever is late*grin**laughing emoji*
Minutes go by and she apologizes saying she’s sorry and that she’s heading out. I’m thinking of jetting but since she is considerate of my time I stay. I tell her to take her time and put on something sexy for me*wink*(credit:Varoon?)She calls me some name I can’t recall (whatsapp chat timers) and I amplify it with yeah I’m over-the-top (name) *laid back emoji**smirk*.
She asks me where are we gonna grab ice cream and I tell her to leave it to me…I’ve got a great idea. It’s close to 6 pm but she hasn’t showed up yet. She is giving me a heads-up that she is working on something but will be out in a few. Meanwhile I’m all busy enjoying Give and Take on my phone. The sun sets and she asks me where are we gonna head to now that the sun has gone.
I change plans and tell her to meet me at a different venue. I’m planning that we have food and drinks. She agrees and I tell her she’s going to wine and dine me lol. As I’m going to our new meetup venue, she texts me back saying “Tonight, I’m eating at yours *blushing emoji*. An escalation window just opened up. I text her back “Want to test my skills already*devil emoji**smirk*
She texts me back saying she is finishing up on whatever she was working on and we should do it at 7 pm. “No problemo” I go back to mine and have a light meal before I meet up with her. I hardly can game chicks when hungry or thirsty…heck can’t talk lol.
I head out to pick her up at 7.12 pm after she asks me where am I at and I still can’t see her.She texts me saying she had been waiting for me and had gone back to hers which I really doubt. I tell her that we’ll have dinner and go out to have drinks later and oversell how much fun it’s going to be. She says she’s trying to call me but the call isn’t going through. I call her myself but we can hardly hear each other. She goes offline and I text her reminding her where I am at. She says she’s coming but minutes go by and I can’t see her.
She is online at around 7.35 pm and asks me where I am at .I move about 700 meters away from where I currently was and tell her I’m taking a stroll but I’m around “venue X”…would have come off chase-y if I stayed in the same position waiting for her. She leaves me on read and I send her another text telling her we wont be long …only a few minutes and she can always go back to hers. She says okay but she isn’t anywhere to be seen nonetheless.
8.05 pm rolls up and I can’t take it anymore. She has wasted my time for like 3 hrs and something. I am not mad but I shoot her:
I hit a grocery store, grab some ingredients and head to mine. I am all calm and remain unfazed even though things didn’t go my way.
Next day I wake up around 6.40 am and I find she love-emoji reacted to my text and sent a ok at 10 pm and she apologizes saying lets do breakfast in the morning at midnight. Seems she spent the night thinking about me. She asks me where am I at at 6.59 am .I’m at mine duh .But I don’t tell her that lol.
I text her “What’s with texting sexy guys late into the night*laid-back emoji*”(@Skills-ey?)She doesn’t reply but calls me and tells me she is coming. She asks me directions to my place and I text her the details and tell her “Not so fast, let’s do it 7.40am”
I clean up some used utensils and pick her up in the lobby at 7.45 am.
HOME DATE AND THE CLOSE
We take our shoes off and she makes herself comfortable complimenting how organized my pad looks like. I make coffee and flapjacks and she cooks some eggs. She asks me what I cooked last night and I look at her silently .I don’t answer that .She then brings up how last night she was high on weed and everything made sense. All the games, no-showing and stuff. She is the kind of girl that got different personalities that mesh well with her. I mean she is congruent professionally, congruent with the hip-hop style and still congruent with being an artist. I’m not impressed though as much as we have a good connection she’s good for a one-night stand. I have set the right expectations with her anyway.
We talk about philosophy and life and she keeps asking my age which I don’t tell her. Bet she doesn’t meet guys this amazing in her age group.
As our convo keeps coming to an end naturally I do the head tilt and she aches her neck to the side. Fade to black as her ass cheeks slap together on my dick.
AFTER-SEX
We go at it as she orgasms away. Post-nut clarity sets in and as much as she enjoyed it, I wouldn’t want to see her again. I set the post coital tone (one night stand) and I escort her almost close to her place.
Once we are parting ways she opens her arms up looking at me saying “Show me some love” .I’m looking to the side with a bored look on my face and left-arm hug her.
POST-SEX CHASING
She hit me up yesterday asking me to go hiking with her and I lied to her “Have a long-time friend who won’t be long in town…really need to catch up with him”
Today she replies to one of my status with LOL (I don’t post anything anyone can laugh at) and I don’t even bother. I know what she is doing and how this usually ends. They get tired of chasing me after coming up with all tricks in the book to get me to reply back and after a while they delete my number lmao. Though it’s rare. Usually with chicks who wanted more with me.
By setting the right expectations right out of the gate and leaving things on a good note, I don’t think I’m hurting anyone.
KEYS TO THE LAY
1)Chick was interested in me from the go …all I had to do was run my process
2)Her being older than me didn’t faze me any
3) Made note of her interest signals and still do.
4)I didn’t go out of my way to do things for her in hopes of her returning the “favor”
LESSONS
1) I have a thing for chicks who challenge me this way…the kind that gets my mental gears running. She doesn’t make the cut for gf though.
2)Some chicks do get bitter when u don’t play ball…it’s easy for some to get hurt especially when u don’t want anything more to do with them. It kinda feels like they are racking their brains up tryna win u over …it’s new territory for them especially when they haven’t been around a guy who got his process down and sees himself as the prize. Dynamics flipped. Good luck missy if u don’t measure up.
TL;DR A chick approached me though kinda subtle to pick up on for the untrained eye. Anyway, I swooped in to see if I could replicate my success yet again with chicks who approach me. Put on my A game when she kept trying to call the shots and got my mind racing as she kept throwing curveballs after another. Got her chasing that she invited herself straight to mine. Closed the deal but feel like she doesn’t do it for me.
Honestly…TOO MUCH WORK FOR LESS.
Anyway glad she seems to enjoy, me less so
Chad T
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