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when did you feel that you had "made it"?

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to guys on here like franco and others who seem to be good at giving advice

when did you feel that you were good enough to give advice to others and had "made it"?
 

Franco

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OP,

when did you feel that you were good enough to give advice to others and had "made it"?

The thing is, with guys like us on this forum, we've never felt like we've "made" it. We are improvement-oriented individuals, and we know that improvement is always something that you are a capable of doing, even when you feel like you've become better at something than almost anyone else ever has. You can always, at the very least, separate the gap even further between yourself and others to achieve new heights.

Even today, I regularly discuss more advanced topics with Chase and other higher rank members on the board in my spare time to see what small things I can learn from them as well as provide my knowledge on topics that they may think they can improve upon. It's a never-ending cycle of improving yourself.

Even if you know you might be the best and "have made it," you can always be even better. =)

- Franco
 

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Every member here has different experiences and lifestyles to bring to the discussions which makes a forum very fun if you're open-minded. So no one has all the answers and not every problem or situation with the opposite gender is gonna have the same answer. The feeling of whether you "made it" or not depends ultimately on your end goals but there never is, to me, an end when improving yourself.
 

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I don't think I will ever be able to say I've "made it." I know I will continue to mistakes moving forward and that there are techniques that will evolve and grow over time. Hell the pick-up artist community is still in its adolescent stage.

You also can't say you've made it because women are human. Just when you think you have seen them all, there will be one that will throw you for a loop.

I would say that as a person, the man I am today and the man I was 7 months ago are night and day.
 

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There are of course always lots of areas for improvement, but in my opinion once you get done the foundation you should be all set, you "made it", and then you can "build" upon the foundation if you need to. That is how I feel. To have a good foundation you have to know some stuff and you have to DO stuff

If you are working on the following you have (IMO) great foundation to "make it":

1. Fundamentals. With great fundamentals your attraction increases multiple fold, girls will be approaching you, and they will be happy to talk to you once you talk to them

2. Abundance mentality. You need to talk to lots of girls, knowledge itself is useless if it is not applied. The more you talk to girls the better and more chances you have, the more confident you will be. The more girls you talk to the better outcome

3. Be ready for rejections, deal with them. One thing is to read about it and another one to experience it. As a Nice Guy/Beta male, you will easily fall in love and you will most likely be rejected several times. You may fall to depression for weeks, months, perhaps even years. You will feel miserable about yourself because she is this cute and hot girl with great personality and amazing looks, there are great vibes between you and her, you think she is your soulmate - and then she will dump you, turn into avoidant person, stop answering your messages and calls, she will act as if she never knew you before. Learn to early cut off girls who have low interest in you, learn not to focus on one girl only, rather focus on abundance mentality BEFORE you get hurt. She can't really hurt you, not unless you allow it

4. Confidence. Confidence is a must, once you have high confidence you can do anything you want. You have "balls" to do many things, to say what you want to the girls, and to get girls to the bed. You don't give a damn about what girls think about you, you just go and talk to them. With true confidence you naturaly appear more dominant and leading, more mature and assertive, more sexy. All very attractive, you are more like a man. No longer you are this shy and hesitant boy, now you look more manly, more like a man who knows exactly what he wants - he wants her, her pussy, and he will never back away from that nor appologize for that. She either has to sleep with him or she has to escape, that is how "hot" it is. There are no friends or orbiting zones, they don't exist

5. Push for sex while getting less emotinal involment (less love) with her. Nice Guys are usually too shy about sex. They have too many feelings for her thus making them unable to pursue sex. She then dumps them because she sees low sexual value in them. Mature guys don't get that easily emotionally involved. They focus more on getting sex rather than on emotional involvement. Because of that they have higher sexual value, after all, sex is what she needs from them


There are many ways and lots of words to describe the same thing, but in essence this is it. Once you understand it and DO IT, you "made it". And the more you DO IT the more you improve and the better you become

Really, what else is there? What else does a guy need?
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Success with the kind of women he likes :(

I have not had that success and it is really messing up my mindset.
 
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