Where did Will Smith go wrong

[Rakehell]

What could have happened between will and jada pinkett for her to hold such obvious contempt for him?

Will’s a great actor and has had some of the best charisma on screen, his legacy is set. Yet his frame is crushed.

If you look at recent appearances of him he’s obviously unhappy, more than likely depressed.

On top of that Jada Pinkett goes out of her way to emasculate him in a very public way which can’t help his mental health.

I’ve seen videos of them interacting from when they were married and it was kind of obvious that she held some disgust for him. She just didn’t seem thrilled with his presence, he held no frame control with her and she sort of walked over him in the video I saw.

Which is fine but why does she put it on grand display?

She still has kids with this guy I mean it can’t help that familial dynamic when your baby mom is having affairs with r&b singers and bragging about it.

It all just seems weird to me. Even though Will doesn’t have the most game and very obviously wasn’t strong enough to handle her why does she ridicule him publically?

She’s framed him into this almost cuckold character and he truthfully hasn’t done much to discredit her atleast in the eyes of the media

it just weirds me out i’m baffled at how he allowed this

 

[Chase]

Jada is a strong-ass chick. Young Jada was totally my type... beautiful, focused, obviously intelligent. I always really liked her.

The thing you've got to understand with these kinds of chicks is they will eat you ALIVE if you do not have the ability to keep them in check.

Will is a funny, sensitive kind of guy. He strikes me as a sort of chummy, kind, family-type. He's not a pussy or a pushover, but he is not the type who's going to keep a gal like Jada in line if things get really out-of-hand.

From my reading of their relationship, there was a point at some point where Jada lost respect for Will and really came to loathe him. They separated, after Will talked about his infidelities... and here's the thing about that: if a woman knows you are shagging other chicks, when she confronts you over it, if she has a high opinion of herself and she doesn't feel like you own it well, she will go through this mental process of, "Oh, ugh. I'm letting THIS guy sleep around on me? He isn't even really on my level, and yet I am tolerating this weak-ass man running around sleeping with other women, then getting emotional when I confront him about it? Ugh."

I don't know how Will dealt with the situation, but I'd put $200 down he handled it like he was guilty and ashamed or he got pissy and accused her of things back. They separated over it; she left disgusted with him. However he handled the "Will's fucking other chicks" thing, she came away from it feeling like he is not the type of guy she should let get away with that with her. You can see how he deals with it now, where he's all apologetic about it, saying how it was all his fault, etc. My guess is there was some/a lot of that in how he dealt with being confronted over it too. Basically: he was trying to sneak around, then grew ashamed and apologetic (or else went the other way and became pissy/accusatory) when caught. This is not stuff that will earn you the respect of a woman like this. Strong dudes never let themselves get portrayed as sneaky (sneaking implies fear of being caught), and if they're caught, they just own it, they don't go crying about it or begging for forgiveness or alternately trying to act like it was all the woman's fault they stuck their dick in all those girls.

The two right ways to handle that are:

1. "Yeah look I'm just not a one woman type of guy. I've done everything I can to shield you from repercussions of that. If you can't tolerate it and need to leave I understand. I wish I could be a one woman guy but I just will never be" where you're just laying it out in the cold light of day, being super straight up about it, and she can decide without feeling like you are trying to trick her or anything whether she can accept that or not
   
   
2. "Baby, I messed up. I'm sorry. I'll never do it again. You are my light, I love you, my everything. You are so wonderful and amazing blah blah blah" where the guy owns it real quick and apologizes real quick but then switches over into "seductive charmer" mode. She knows his apology is probably BS and he'll be back out fucking girls again within a couple of weeks, but "seductive charmer" works on her (that's how she ended up with a guy like this in the first place) and it'll probably work on her here again

It's clear Will Smith did not do either of those things, and Jada is eating him alive because of it. He crawled back to her and she took him back to have a companion, because I'm sure there are still things about him she likes, she is still invested in the relationship, they have had a lot of great times, have a family, etc., and also because at this point she gets to have a successful guy around who now understands the deal, has accepted that she is the boss, and accepts certain conditions she is going to impose on him (maybe she gets to still shag other guys now... who knows. Or maybe she just gets to keep his balls in a vise and is happy for now feeling like she's on top).

Will was never "on top of" Jada. If he was she'd be "Jada Smith" and not "Jada Pinkett Smith." But it was probably a fairly mutual relationship, maybe with him nominally on top, until they reached that breaking point.

The point it's at now, Jada will keep making digs at Will, some of them public (like the recent one with her criticizing him in the bedroom, lol), because she is around a man she does not fully respect.

Taking digs at a man is a challenge to him to put her in line.

I don't know if Will will ever rise to that challenge. He is more of an entertainer than a guy who will put you in line from what I have seen.

Who knows though, maybe at some point he will find his balls, put her back in line, and she will start looking at him as Her Man instead of this guy she's going to constantly make little digs at because she no longer fully respects.

Moral of the story though: don't punch above your weight class with chicks you can't handle!

Chase

 

[Rakehell]

@Chase yeah Jada in her prime was hella sexy.

I love strong girls, when you treat them right they soften up; moreover you get to see them be strong with everyone else and sweet with you.

I can’t help but feel bad for Will, if he tapped into his inner Mike Lowry he’d probably have a better shot. That scale of public embarrassment can’t be healthy.

I know his trips to whatever barber shop he goes to has to be severe comic relief for everyone.

Just goes to show that actors aren’t always their characters.

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

What could have happened between will and jada pinkett for her to hold such obvious contempt for him?

The first thing is that he picked the wrong one to begin with. Will ain't ever been "street", and Jada always has been. He should have grabbed him a Hillary Banks type, and kept it moving.

But then he did far too much for a chick that was obviously "for the streets" as the kids say.

• Broke up with his first wife
• Married her
• Gave her total freedom within the relationship
• Honored and Adored her Publicly (which she disliked)
• Didn't put his foot down with the first transgression (it's okay to have an open relationship, even if it's an open secret - but she violated him with August Alsina) Part of an open relationship is 1) no outside kids, 2) no diseases, 3) no public embarrassment.

But maybe he violated her first with that photo with Margot Robbie - https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity...argot-robbie-august-alsina-film-hollywood-spt

Here's a "deleted" scene from SS - https://thedirect.com/article/suici...will-smith-kiss-deleted-scene-harley-deadshot

In any event, what she's doing now is milking all this attention.

Very much like Ayesha Curry and Steph Curry, and many other pretty women married to actually important men.

And the American Black Women Gossip Industrial Complex has always had it out for Will, so there have been those kinds of rumors about him since his breakout role in Six Degrees of Separation.


He should have dropped Jada a long time ago. But she's the one for him. The one for her was Tupac.

WIA

 

[POB]

Will broke some important rules of an open realtionship:
- lost his frame (most important one)
- went semi-public with a big affair (Margot Robbie)

Jada is a strong bossy type, so she went after him for those two major transgressions.
He should've booted her as soon as she went public with her affair and never apologized for being a sexually dominant man.
Simple as that.

 

[Tim Iron]

In this particular case, money, fame and looks weren't enough.

 

[Rakehell]

Margot Robbie is highly butt ugly to me I don’t know why he decided to play jealousy games using her.