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Whiplash Pedagogy and Tough Love

Hector Papi Castillo

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For those who are sometimes curious about my style of teaching, I want to share this with you.

I'm a huge proponent of hard pedagogy. I wasn't given this as a child, but I needed it. 10 years of Tae Kwon Do training helped provide me with the tough love I was never given by an absent father (though when he did come back in my life at age 12, he did somewhat give it to me, so it's not a total sob story). If you want to see a video of how I like it, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXzIQG-0aGc

But I have an even better example and that is the movie Whiplash. It's about a hardass Jazz instructor who berates and pushes his students. He's FAR worse than I would personally go, but it depends on the context. In the movie, he pushes the main character to be great, but eventually he breaks and tells the instructor to fuck himself. He ends up also getting the instructor fired.

Here's one scene that demonstrates why - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDAsABdkWSc

They meet up some time after the main character quits and the teacher is fired. The teacher invites the protagonist to play for him at a performance. The teacher, knowing the protagonist got him fired, sets him up to fail and gives him the wrong music for the performance. The protagonist walks out, embarassed at his play, knowing that the important and influential people watching him will know he's shit, even if he got played by the instructor.

However, in the final scene, he walks back and...well, watch. See how anger and tough love can push you to greatness - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZY-Ytrw2co

And to see the thinking behind why the instructor did what he did, before the final scene just linked, see this scene - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6vTI5g198E

In the end, the instructor pushes the protagonist to greatness, even if the protagonist didn't quite understand his methodology.

What you take from this post is up to you, but I wanted to share this for any who either don't like my style or who want to know more about the way I teach. I'm not always mean or hard, but when I think I need to be, I am. I'm learning as much as you are, so I will say that I'm happy to be on this journey with the rest of you.

With love,

Hector
 
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Cacc

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Damn dude, that's crazyyyy. So you're a masochist huh? ;)

My father treated me like that martial artist instructor for most of my early life. All it did was make me fantasize about murdering him.

To each their own

Edit: Thinking about it now. My dad used tough love when it came to developing my skills and I was far ahead of everyone else because of it. But when he started beating the shit out of me for stupid shit, that's when things started turning sour.
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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Cacc said:
Damn dude, that's crazyyyy. So you're a masochist huh? ;)

My father treated me like that martial artist instructor for most of my early life. All it did was make me fantasize about murdering him.

To each their own

Edit: Thinking about it now. My dad used tough love when it came to developing my skills and I was far ahead of everyone else because of it. But when he started beating the shit out of me for stupid shit, that's when things started turning sour.

No dude lol. I like to give the pain in sex. But I like pain during education.

And you're right. Hard times make hard men.

HEctor
 
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