Went to college, got a degree, got a apt, got a job but society promised us we would get friends, girlfriend be married. Instead nothing like that happened. What happens to the ones that depended on society to deliver and did everything possible. I just feel lost but this world keeps moving forward. I just cant relate anymore
Why would society make us promises but not deliver?
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ajx,
These two articles are also very relevant, and they'll help alleviate some of the cognitive dissonance you're probably experiencing:
- Franco
These two articles are also very relevant, and they'll help alleviate some of the cognitive dissonance you're probably experiencing:
- Why is Mainstream Dating Advice So Ineffective?
A Rebellious Mind; or Not Taking Anything at Face Value
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radeng said:
I disagree society does promise quite a bit if you listen to mainstream media, groupthink, and the general social narrative we are constantly fed it would seem as if we have been promised quite a bit.
That's the dream teachers, parents, and pretty much everyone tells you when you grow up. My father always told me back when I couldn't talk to women at all that I would be studying in the library and I pretty girl would approach me in the library and I would meet my wife like that (super ridiculous that he would feed me that forever though I never really believed it).
But the reason he my dad told me this vision was because he wanted me to believe that everything would work out for me just because I'm special and awesome. It's a cute thought to have however it is entirely unrealistic.
Society also feeds into the "you are special and everything will work out for you in the end" which is what it seems you are suffering from.
A lot of people have this social narrative come true, though usually not to the extent they were hoping (they didn't get the perfect sexy 10 for a wife or the badass job they wanted) and settle for less and figure that's just the way things are.
Though the world is a lot crueler than the sugar coated way society tells you it will be.
The reality is that the world may stomp on you and destroy your soul and no one will give two shits about you.
But you could never tell everyone the truth because they can't fucking handle it, thus its much easier to say "oh don't worry! You'll be alright just follow the rules of society, be a good provider (submissive beta male), and don't ask too many questions! Don't worry you'll wife Jessica Alba! She'll even approach you... just because you're Mediocre Bob and you're are a special unique individual!"
Although I do agree with Radeng in that you must start seeing whats real for yourself and take responsibility for your own success and life. Society will tell you what you want to hear all day long to keep you as a wheel in the cog to keep society turning but in reality the only thing that is going to get you your dreams is you pursuing them ruthlessly until you achieve them.
I personally like RSDTyler's philosophy on all this.
Here is in my opinion a good video by him on this topic :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfRxUuLyaP8
Good luck,
-Rob
Agree with you, it is all just false promises and no deliverance.
Society tells you those things because people don't know any better. People don't know any better because there are no longer any true leaders, all we have left are crooks and manipulators, shady and fake characters with great speeches and cool attitudes, people who are masters of deception and lawfull lies... we have weak people who leads us with weak examples... so no wonder nobody wants to follow, every normal guy must be disgussed with this great fakiness and deceptions....
Times are changing, what was true 20-40-60 years ago no longer applies. Women are more independent today, they have better jobs, access to more finances, access to great careers, they have word in politics and everywhere else, and so on, so they don't really need a man to have family.
Good for women - but how about the rest? We man suffer because we can't find decent woman to marry, and because of that we think there is something wrong with us, and that we have to change... There is nothing wrong with us. We men built everything, we men came with all the great ideas, we men discovered all great things in science. Women didn't do any of that, women can't build safe houses and they can't build roads nor trains, women can't protect nor save anyone... Men have to do it... So there is nothing wrong with men, we just do manly things. We shouldn't be chasing and seducing women, it should be the other way because we men can survive and have a great life without women - but they can't survive without us....
Children suffer the most, children are not raised in stable families, they grow up without strong and dominant father, they grow up in feminine society, they are raised by women in schools, they have to learn nonsense about equality...
It is horrible, all this feminist thing is horrible. A man can't find good woman and good mother, and woman can't find good man, strong and stable head of family because men are raised to be weak and compliant, man are raised to be weak, needy, insecure, dependent on everyone else...
So it is not really your fault, it is the way of current society. As far as I am concern, women should be home taking care of children, making sure they have great and stable families. And yes, they should cook and clean, they should take care of the household. They should not have access to great carriers. They should not be considered equal to men. If there is a fire on 10th floor, I want a fucking man who's got 220 pounds of pure muscles run up the stairs, kick the door open and save me or my family, bring me down on his shoulder. I don't want fucking 140 pounds of weakness and pussyness to do it, and I could care less whether she is equal or not. If there is a fight, two criminals are threatening safety of others, I want the same 220 pound cop to intervene, take them down and beat the sh*t out of them right there. 160 pound women just can't do it, and 220 pound women can't do it either.
I want strong and dominant leader, who is honest and truly transparent and not just talks about it, a guy who has a spine, who has a respect, who can take some critique, who is not afraid to answer difficult questions, and who is not afraid to tell the truth the way it is... I want a man who is not afraid to be a man, and who doesn't apologize for being a man. I want a guy who leads the front lines, in stead of hiding behind backs of others. I want a guy who says: you either work or you get nothing. I want a guy in charge of military who can shoot different guns and who's got black belt in martial arts; I don't want a pen pusher who fears kitchen knives. I don't want apologetic, manipulative, deceptive and weak guy, who is friendly and cool but has no spine to take any responsibility. It's always fault of the others. Idon't want any Hollywood star with learned confidence who never worked in their entire life, nor do I want any woman as a leader... I don't want any paranoid society that tracts every move of honest citizens, just so they don't have to hurt feelings of a small group of true villains... What a nonsense, it is just a pure faggotery out there...
But again, who else gives a damn? Eh, just wasting my ink...
Society tells you those things because people don't know any better. People don't know any better because there are no longer any true leaders, all we have left are crooks and manipulators, shady and fake characters with great speeches and cool attitudes, people who are masters of deception and lawfull lies... we have weak people who leads us with weak examples... so no wonder nobody wants to follow, every normal guy must be disgussed with this great fakiness and deceptions....
Times are changing, what was true 20-40-60 years ago no longer applies. Women are more independent today, they have better jobs, access to more finances, access to great careers, they have word in politics and everywhere else, and so on, so they don't really need a man to have family.
Good for women - but how about the rest? We man suffer because we can't find decent woman to marry, and because of that we think there is something wrong with us, and that we have to change... There is nothing wrong with us. We men built everything, we men came with all the great ideas, we men discovered all great things in science. Women didn't do any of that, women can't build safe houses and they can't build roads nor trains, women can't protect nor save anyone... Men have to do it... So there is nothing wrong with men, we just do manly things. We shouldn't be chasing and seducing women, it should be the other way because we men can survive and have a great life without women - but they can't survive without us....
Children suffer the most, children are not raised in stable families, they grow up without strong and dominant father, they grow up in feminine society, they are raised by women in schools, they have to learn nonsense about equality...
It is horrible, all this feminist thing is horrible. A man can't find good woman and good mother, and woman can't find good man, strong and stable head of family because men are raised to be weak and compliant, man are raised to be weak, needy, insecure, dependent on everyone else...
So it is not really your fault, it is the way of current society. As far as I am concern, women should be home taking care of children, making sure they have great and stable families. And yes, they should cook and clean, they should take care of the household. They should not have access to great carriers. They should not be considered equal to men. If there is a fire on 10th floor, I want a fucking man who's got 220 pounds of pure muscles run up the stairs, kick the door open and save me or my family, bring me down on his shoulder. I don't want fucking 140 pounds of weakness and pussyness to do it, and I could care less whether she is equal or not. If there is a fight, two criminals are threatening safety of others, I want the same 220 pound cop to intervene, take them down and beat the sh*t out of them right there. 160 pound women just can't do it, and 220 pound women can't do it either.
I want strong and dominant leader, who is honest and truly transparent and not just talks about it, a guy who has a spine, who has a respect, who can take some critique, who is not afraid to answer difficult questions, and who is not afraid to tell the truth the way it is... I want a man who is not afraid to be a man, and who doesn't apologize for being a man. I want a guy who leads the front lines, in stead of hiding behind backs of others. I want a guy who says: you either work or you get nothing. I want a guy in charge of military who can shoot different guns and who's got black belt in martial arts; I don't want a pen pusher who fears kitchen knives. I don't want apologetic, manipulative, deceptive and weak guy, who is friendly and cool but has no spine to take any responsibility. It's always fault of the others. Idon't want any Hollywood star with learned confidence who never worked in their entire life, nor do I want any woman as a leader... I don't want any paranoid society that tracts every move of honest citizens, just so they don't have to hurt feelings of a small group of true villains... What a nonsense, it is just a pure faggotery out there...
But again, who else gives a damn? Eh, just wasting my ink...