Women are as superficial about mate choice as men

[Bboy100]

I've recently come to an epiphany. Women care just as little about you as a person as you do about them (at least, at the outset when you don't know each other that well).

In the past two weeks, I've fucked two different girls. Neither of them really showed any interest in me as a person. They just talked a lot about themselves, I helped them open up and let me in a little more than they would most guys they just met by asking the right questions, I was charming, I was charismatic, I had good fundamentals. And that's all it took.

Here's the thing though: They did not once ask me a question about me. There was not a single bit of genuine curiosity about me, my life, my dreams and aspirations etc. All they saw was a really hot guy who they wanted to fuck.

So in a way, just as women are objectified for their looks, I was objectified for my high status behavior, assertiveness, looks, conversation skills etc by women. Because although those are TRAITS that I have (similar to how a women's nice ass is a TRAIT that she has), they are not who I am. If you'll notice, my dreams, goals, aspirations, struggles, and life (the things which make me, me), are totally separate from those traits that I listed.

This isn't always true of course. Just as there are some guys who have a genuine curiosity for the women they date (hint: that should be you if you want to sleep with lots of women!), some women have a genuine curiosity for the men they meet. But it does seem to be a relatively rare experience.

 

[Drck]

I've recently come to an epiphany. Women care just as little about you as a person as you do about them (at least, at the outset when you don't know each other that well).
.... In the past two weeks, I've fucked two different girls. Neither of them really showed any interest in me as a person.

>>>> I agree, mostly. Women that are interested in you also love to figure lots of things on their own. They like to pick up on many clues and hints, they sort of imagine what kind of life you have and what kind of person you are from what you projects.

Many women are very accurate in this sort of analysis, I mean Fucking WOW! I met girls they only asked me minimal questions, but they were able to figure out my entire life in very short period of time. Unbelievable. They do all sort of "research" on you, check social media, see who you are friend with or who you talk to, ask another girls who know you...

That's one of the reason the guy should never tell them anything and always deflect, because once they figure you out you become just boring and predictable guy. Boot. TELL THEM NOTHING ABOUT YOU...

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They just talked a lot about themselves, I helped them open up and let me in a little more than they would most guys they just met by asking the right questions, I was charming, I was charismatic, I had good fundamentals. And that's all it took.
>>>> Exactly. Easy enough. It's actually quite simple if you think about it.

Here's the thing though: They did not once ask me a question about me. There was not a single bit of genuine curiosity about me, my life, my dreams and aspirations etc. All they saw was a really hot guy who they wanted to fuck.
>>>> Yes and no. Like I said, they love to figure things about you (if they are interested). I wouldn't be surprised if they know way more things about you than you think. It is rather superficial when you think about it, and it is true - they appear rather disinterested in the guy...

So think about all these stupid dating sites when the guy pays high monthly fees and spills his entire life in two-three paragraphs of introduction. He gets minimal reply, mostly from girls he doesn't care about, and still can't figure out why no girl wants to go on a date with him... THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I mean, they do, but not from you, if you tell them directly your value drops way below average, you are already boring guy in her eyes even before you appear for a date...


So in a way, just as women are objectified for their looks, I was objectified for my high status behavior, assertiveness, looks, conversation skills etc by women. Because although those are TRAITS that I have (similar to how a women's nice ass is a TRAIT that she has), they are not who I am. If you'll notice, my dreams, goals, aspirations, struggles, and life (the things which make me, me), are totally separate from those traits that I listed.

>>>> Agree. Women rarely care about your personality. They want to extract your resources - your social circle, your money, things you do in life that are exiting.... You are touching a lot of Red Pill here. Well, it is what it is, women just don't see us the way we see them. Women can connect with a guy (I'm even pretty sure with ANY guy) fairly easily, very fast. But she can also disconnect very fast, she can dump a guy with no regrets, and some time later she'll even deny most of the stuff she experienced with the guy.

I've seen women turn on me 180 degrees in no time, even in less than in one week. She can become totally cold, perhaps even your enemy - as if preceding MONTHS before meant totally nothing...

Most men can't really do that. Most men still believe that she is this cute, silly and sexy girl that she got hurt, they still think about her for months, years. They still believe that she will change her mind and come back... she is still cute, silly and sexy - to all other guys. To you she is just a cold and heartless bitch, who doesn't hesitate to extract any resources from you legally...

Most guys here have no idea that dealing with girls goes way beyond seduction, sexy talks and walks, deep diving...

 

[Bboy100]

Drck,

I would disagree with a lot of your post. But I also don't feel like writing up a giant response post rn. And don't get me wrong, you could be right and I be wrong. God knows, I'm not all-knowing. The only reason I even mention it is because I want it to be clear to you and to other readers that we're not saying the same thing here.

There is however, one point in particular which I want to tackle, as I do not want my beliefs to be associated in any way with this type of old school "Red Pill", "Blue Pill" PUA bs:

Agree. Women rarely care about your personality. They want to extract your resources - your social circle, your money, things you do in life that are exiting.... You are touching a lot of Red Pill here. Well, it is what it is, women just don't see us the way we see them. Women can connect with a guy (I'm even pretty sure with ANY guy) fairly easily, very fast. But she can also disconnect very fast, she can dump a guy with no regrets, and some time later she'll even deny most of the stuff she experienced with the guy.

This is most definitely wrong. I should have clarified this in my original post: Women don't care that much about you as a person at the outset. At the very start of the relationship. More specifically, the main point I was trying to make is that they will have sex with you not because you're such a great guy, but because you just happen to have certain traits which they find attractive. In the same way that guys will have sex with a girl because she's hot, not because of who she is as a person. Buuut, once a women spends the time to actually get to know you, their investment in knowing who you are as a person increases (For the most part. There are definitely some women out there who really do fit the "red pill" description above. But those are usually sociopaths. The vast majority are not like that).

And while you are right that women will typically disconnect from a relationship slightly more easily if need be, it's certainly not what you described. Break ups, ending a relationship, grief, love, intimacy etc. are all experiences women have. It would be silly to think this is an experience exclusive to males.

 

[Drck]

IMO Red Pill is little bit different than the current believe here on GC is. There is actually pretty decent movie called Red Pill on Amazon Prime, it was done by woman (and not bitter men), check it out if you have access

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I know this is sensitive issue here, and it is probably pointless to discuss it because it only upsets everyone. Check some of the statistics though:

Some 41 percent of first marriages end up in divorce, subsequent marriages the percentage is even higher (e.g. 60% of second marriages).

Average lenght of marriage that ends up in divorce is around 8 years (here I would arugue that after 8 years or so the woman knows the man quite well, inside and out)

Women initiate about 70% of all divorces, and the number is pretty much the same in non-marriage break ups

Almost 80% of women receive support award after divorce

43% of children living in America are being raised without fathers

75% of children with divorced parents live with their mother


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Those are IMO alarming data that every guy should be aware of. Many of the guys who ended up divorced or dumped were regular, decent and hard working men who would do everything for the family...