Women Think I'm Angry

[foggy]

I'm continuing to work on my fundamentals, and right now I am paying particular attention to body language, facial expressions in particular.

I'm 5'2 tall and pretty skinny. After reading some of Chases Articles, I pay way more attention to facial expressions now. Generally when I am approaching/talking to a woman, I have a slight smile. They usually react well to it.

However, on occasion when I approach with the same face, they ask me why I look so angry. One lady told me today I had a scary look on my face! I tell them I am not angry and it doesn't get in the way of the interaction after that. I am not talking in an angry voice and do not have angry body language. I am assuming it has to do with my facial expression, perhaps even my eyes. Sometimes I squint - my vision is not the best. One time when I had the same look on my face, my buddy said to me "you are so mischievous."

Has anybody else had a similar experience? I don't want women to think I am an angry guy! How come I am getting different reactions to this and how can I prevent women from thinking I am angry? Perhaps I just gotta open up my eyes some more.

 

[Anonymous]

First, go get yourself some vision correction. I used to squint a lot as a kid and not only did it strain my eyes, but it stiffened my overall facial expression. Not having to strain to see will help relax your face.

Second, part of the reason why your face is so stiff is because you're probably not used to "emoting" a lot. If you don't use your facial muscles a lot, you'll tend to be stiff faced and it'll be harder to come across as calm and chill, even when you're neutral. Or you might just have a very unpleasant expression when you're neutral, so it might help to work on your neutral face.

You don't have to smile all the time (that's just creepy), but you should have a relaxed and calmness to your face. Practice in front of the mirror.

I used to get told that I look angry and serious all the time. I still am a pretty serious guy, but I can laugh at myself pretty readily and I'm a lot more easy going. Part of it is emanating from inside you. Yeah, maybe you're not angry, but you're probably a bit uptight and need to loosen up. Learn how to self-soothe. Relax. Manage your emotional state and health. Be aware of your pattern of thinking and work to uproot the negative thought patterns and chill out. Don't take yourself too seriously.

 

[Edd--19]

Yeah, I've had the stiff face problem, mostly through being nervous.

There are a couple of ways to reduce the tension in your facial muscles. First off, take a photo off you face, then relax all your muscles in you face, do them one by one, lips, nose, eyebrows etc... Take another photo now. You should be able to see the difference, when I did this I just used a mirror, which works just as well. Relaxing the face makes you seem more in control and less fazed, as well as making you feel these things. Girls will notice. Once you've relaxed those muscles add in the sexy smile and whatever else that you want and it'll give you much better results.

 

[Bboy100]

I have the same thing going on. Personally, I've always seen it as an advantage in seduction.
1. It makes me harder to read. I had a girl literally tell me "you're so hard to read, I can usually tell exactly what guys are thinking".
2. It gives an overall powerful presence. Most high status guys don't have goofy overly excited facial expressions.

The only issue is that it can come off as intimidating when you first meet someone. A disarming smile usually takes care of that problem.

 

[Fuck This]

As a big guy with a shaved head and a mustache and goatee, I really have to be conscious of my facial expression.

If I am deadpan in expression I come across as "Mean and Scary". Good when you have teenage daughters, not good for meeting new people.

Think about how you feel when you meet a long lost buddy. What does your face look like then? Generally wide eyed with a relaxed jaw, and slight smile.
Laser focus often can be misinterpreted as a scowl.

Visualize that you are meeting your best friend when you meet someone . Have OPEN body language (no crossed arms or fists) Make eye contact but not LASER eye contact. Focus on their forehead then their chin.

These are the basics when meeting new people regardless of sex.

 

[Flames]

Are you talking about cold approach daytime/bars/clubs here or social/work?

I had a bit of a thing for a while when a lot of the girls at work thought I was grumpy looking. I actually had one or two called me 'grumpy Flames'. I just ignored it and (eventually) I got "I used to think you were grumpy, but your not really are you". I also got the usual. Why don't you smile more /whine/ to which I replied "I am smiling" or "I don't get paid to smile". On occasion I'd take this a bit further and say "Would you prefer someone who takes his job seriously or someone who stands around laughing and joking". I was joking of course and some would get it and smile, and I would smile back. The ones who didn't get it is roll my eyes at and walk off".

That however isn't good in a bar/club and you need to project a warm and welcoming vibe. However Im still not going to walk round with an insessant grin.

It's a shit-test/don't worry about it. It can work in your favor if you don't smile at every little things girl does as long as you do smile when it's deserved.