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WTF just happened on this date - can anyone try and explain this to me?

Elnino25

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Hey all. I just finished a date and have no idea wtf happened and want to know if anyone can explain this at all (I am 24 btw, the girl is 22).

So it all started when I matched with a cute blonde girl on a dating app a few days ago. We talked for a bit and she gave me her number really quickly (like a few lines of chat and she gave it to me). Now, I have a pretty good online profile, but this was still quick. So that's the first kind of strange thing that happened. But i figured that it's just easier for her to talk through text, which is reasonable.

Next, we texted pretty consistently for 3 days. Texting back and forth, good and funny texts. In short, there was a lot of chemistry. The second kind of strange thing is that she kept calling me cutie in these texts and making kissy faces and so on, which is a little weird because we hadn't been texting for that long. But, again, I put it down to her bubbly personality.

After a few days of texting, we agreed to meet up at a bar last night, but at the last minute she cancelled and wanted to meet up today instead. That was kind of strange because she didn't give a reason for cancelling, but again, no worries. I told her that I hate people that cancel, and that if she doesn't want to meet up, we don't have to at all. She can just tell me that she is not interested. She replied that she is really into me, which is why she's been texting me nonstop for 3 days and that she has a "good feeling about me, this." And that if I really wanted to meet up last night, she would. I am actually looking for a girlfriend, so that was a good answer to me and I let it go.

We agreed to meet up tonight and were going to meet at a bar. I was running a bit late at work and so she got there first and said there was a 20 minute wait. I told her that we should just meet at a different bar without a wait and SHE COUNTERED BY SAYING that we could just meet at my place. I agreed and she came over to my place after I gave her directions. Again, she said that we should meet at my place, not me.

At my place, we started making out almost immediately. But we also talked for like 10 minutes. But again, we had been texting pretty much nonstop for 3 days and so it got sexual pretty quickly. We escalated and as we were getting nearer to sex (after like 30 min of foreplay, both of us in our underwear), she asked if I will not call her again if we have sex. I said that's obviously not true and that i'm into her and that having sex won't change anything. So we proceeded to do more foreplay, but no sex. Then 5 minutes later, she gets up and says she can't do this anymore and that she has to go, but that we will for sure hang out again.

I was shocked and told her that it doesn't look like we'll hang out again because that was a really sudden move on her part. She said that we will, that things just moved too fast too soon, etc. I told her it's fine not to have sex and that she's cool to talk to and I like her sex isn't the end all be all. So then we talked for like half an hour and it was a really good back and forth conversation with a definite connection and lots of deep diving with her telling me about her past and me telling her about my past.

Then she called an uber, I walked her downstairs, and she left. As I was walking her downstairs, she put my arm in hers and kept making out with me and saying how fun I was to kiss. In short, it seemed like she was really into me and acting like a GF. She said she'd text me when she got home, etc.

I texted her like 15 min later and said that I had a great time, and that she's super cool and fun to talk to. But here is where it gets super weird because my imessage was not delivered! So clearly she blocked me on imessage! Then I check my snapchat and see that we're no longer snapchat friends! I have no idea why she did this! Aside from not having sex, it seemed like everything was going well. She seemed into me and we had a great conversation that I think we both genuinely enjoyed and the foreplay was also def good.

The things that stand out to me are:
1) I do get the sense that she thought I was a bit of a player
2) Seems that she is less sexually experienced than me
3) This is the big one - it seemed throughout the whole text conversation over the past few days that she was the one pushing to meet and pushing the envelope by calling me cutie and using kissy faces emojis and all these things - and all this after only a few days of knowing one another is pretty weird.

Has this happened to anyone? Can anyone offer me advice on this? I am utterly confused right now and really weirded out that this happened.

Short version: Online dating --> texting for a few days --> girl seems really into me --> We meet up at my place at her suggestion --> We almost have sex but not quite --> She gets a bit freaked out and wantsbecause we went "too fast" and wants to leave --> We have a great 40 min conversation --> She starts acting like a girlfriend as I walk her out --> She blocks me on imessage and snapchat and seems like she won't talk to me again.

WTF?!?!?!?!
 

NarrowJ

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Elnino,

I actually had the exact opposite read on this one: this girl wanted to FUCK.

Look at how quickly she's moving. She's not even really giving you escalation windows and waiting for you to capitalize on them, she's just pushing through herself. Some very bold moves by her there- this girl is no rookie haha.

- She gave you her # very quickly (hard to tell from reading if you asked or if she just gave it to you without prompting, but either way...)
- The cute texting and kissy faces: I've texted hundreds of girls, and well, they don't normally do that kind of thing. Either that's just part of her personality or it's a big indicator that she's pretty attracted to you.
- Her offer to just go straight to your place was very, very bold. You could say that was just an inexperienced move on her part, but the other signs here point to something else.
- Things got sexual pretty much immediately once she arrived at your place. It's said that men take the initiative in things like this, but their actions are actually summoned by the woman at a subconscious level. Ponder that for a moment :)
- Her making sure you were going to call her again before fucking you- that's pretty normal even with a girl looking for a fling. Women just don't like to be treated like a filthy piece of meat, even if they're only looking for a quick lay.

Her getting up after another 5 minutes of fooling around actually was a sudden move on her part, so this makes me wonder a bit. Do you happen to recall the dialogue between the two of you right before this happened? I'm just wondering, because "things just moved too fast too soon" can be code-speak for "holy shit, I was just trying to get laid and this guy wants a relationship... I'd better get out of here so I can save myself all the hassle of having to repair his emotions after I sleep with him and then proceed to pull away a bit and still see other men." And then she she moves on to the next guy in her list of 50+ dudes that are messaging her on tinder or whatever.

If she was, let's say, 17 or 18 and not 22 then I might chalk it up to inexperience. But, a girl at 22 years old is 99 percent of the time light years ahead of a guy 2 years older than her, if not guys 5-7 years older than her.

J.J.
 

Elnino25

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NarrowJ - the interaction that happened when she first asked about having sex was simple. I told her, no obviously that won't change anything and started making out with her. That's all. She also said something along the lines of, wow things went so fast, i didn't expect this to happen. To which I replied, no neither did i, but clearly we're both enjoying it.

I am so confused because I agree with you, it seemed like she really wanted sex and maybe that's all because she was initiating a lot in our interaction. But then in person she kept making comments about this being unexpected and totally not what she was expecting (not in a bad way like she was unhappy, just in a kind of surprised way).
 

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Hey El Nino,

Welcome to Girls Psychology 101.

She wanted sex very badly but couldn't admit it overtly - and probably not even to herself. She was giving all the signs, and even rearranged the first date straight to your place, but of course was "not expecting it". That would be slutty, obviously she couldn't be that kind of girl, so of course she had to deny.

Also, she did 90 pct of the job for you, even arranging the logistics for you. But she couldn't do it 100pct all the way alone - that would be slutty too. It had to look like it was coming from you. So she was expecting that you took charge of the rest, putting some token resistance for you to overcome, for her own self respect. Call her again if you had sex? "Maybe yes, maybe no, who knows?" with a wink and sexy smile, then proceed to fuck.

By saying that, she was framing the interaction as "no sex without a relationship", like a good girl would do, and you fell in the trap. Agreed with NJ, the last thing she wanted from you was discussing relationships. After that, she acted cool and friendly not to hurt you, then disappeared.

Hey, be happy you had this experience, it's a great learning. We all had our moments of realization. When I started, the most common frame I had was "all men want sex". LOL.

Cheers man!
Seppuku
 

Elnino25

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Seppuku- That makes so much sense! Thank you!

Here is where I need some more advice. I have trouble pushing for sex when a girl says that she doesn't want to do anything, even if in reality she just doesn't want to seem too easy and says it for posterity and nothing else. And it's not because I am sexually inexperienced. It's because of all these rape claims in the news and all of the uproar over consent. The second a girl says anything to the contrary of having sex, I immediately lose all inclination to have sex and get into friend mode and turn the conversation away from sex and say something along the lines of "no worries, we don't have to do anything if you don't want to." This is what happened here I guess.

Does anyone have advice on this?
 

NarrowJ

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Elnino,

Elnino25 said:
Does anyone have advice on this?

Here's how I handle these, when the girl stops you and says something to the effect of "I'm having second thoughts because" - I am not sure if you'll call me after this / don't want to just be somebodies cheap fuck / other objection about being 'used' or whatever.

You can frame-shift and laugh (a cool, calm laugh here) and accuse her of the same thing, example: "Oh really, I was thinking the same thing. I'm not just some cheap piece of meat, missy" and then resume escalation.

You can assure her that you're non-judgmental, again in a calm, cool and collected way, example: "Look, people love sex, women love sex. I'm actually really jealous of how much women love sex- you get to have multiple orgasms and in different ways too. It's really quite beautiful. I'm not going to think any different of you if we have sex or if we don't."

You can do both. Those are my two main go-to's, and then you follow that up with a burst of passion >> Item #9 in this list.

Since your words here didn't seem to be the culprit, I'd guess it was more body language/tone/reaction than anything else. Remember: it's all about keeping your cool and not over-reacting and definitely not using boyfriend-y type promise-y stuff. Strong eye contact and a calm demeanor, no nervousness or overt eagerness as that really freaks women out. Think compassion + passion. You might give this a read: https://www.girlschase.com/content/resis ... nt-flavors


Cheers,
J.J.
 
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