WTF Makes Us Players? (old post from 2002, fast seduction forum)

[Rage]

I saved a bunch of the archives of original forums of fast seduction, that mystery, neil strauss, and og pick up artists participated in.

Have been reading from thema bit.

I looked for those archives that I had downloaded a couple of years ago and they were all gone, and it just redirects to pua training's site. Maybe pua training bought it or something hmm...

Anyway this is an old post that I was reading and found interesting and thought I'd share. I'll leave the name of the OP out of it so that it is confidential.

Every now and then I wax philosophical about this whole PUA stuff. What I mean is – why do we feel the need to constantly be on the make? Something from our childhood? Not enough attention from our mothers? Slight misogyny? Or are we born with it in our genes?

You have to admit that true, natural PUAs are relatively rare. That’s why they are so fascinating to both guys and girls. Maybe 1% of the male population or soething. Most on this forum are in that percentile, while others on this forum are very desirous of learning the techniques.

I think we must be born with it. After all, no matter how much an AFC admires a PUA and wishes he could be like that as well, we are a breed apart. Most guys do not have the intestinal fortitude or emotional makeup to become a player. And quite frankly, there are a very large percentage of guys who, contrary to the laws of evolution, have no interest in anything but a monogamous relationship. Do you ever wonder what separates us from them? Chemical differences? I dunno.

I’ve been doing this for probably a lot longer than you guys (I’m now 38), but I cannot remember a time since I was in 1st grade that I didn’t constantly chase girls. I have always adored them.

In fact, just for context (and since this is anonymous), here is a bit about me. As I said I am 38, I have a 14 year old daughter (I got a girl pregnant when I was 24). She lives with her mom but stays over at my house 3-4 days per week (limiting my social nights somewhat, but I love her, so fuck my social life).

I have always been a player. Until just recently when I discovered this site, I didn’t know any of the terminology or techniques. I just did my own thing, which is very similar to the stuff here. But I sure have learned a lot since I started to lurk here a few weeks ago. If I had known SS back in my 20s, I would have been extremely dangerous So good material, guys.

In my 20s, I did pretty good. In fact when I was 28, I slept with 86 girls in a single year. You can call bullshit if you want and flame me, but I don’t give a shit what you think and I am wearing my flame retardant suit BTW, I’m not the only one who keeps score am I?

Then when I turned 29, I met this 17 year old that I started dating. We ended up living together a year later (gasp from the crowd) and then 3 years ago, we got married (crowd shudders and faints). Anyway, we were together 8.5 years. We split up in January of this year, and that is why I am now participating on this forum.

Just so you don’t think I was too smitten by oneitis -  when I started dating her, I was actually dating her and her 18 year old best friend at the same time - and I mean at the same time. Full on threesome for six months. And for any of you guys that fantasize about two girls at once, by all means do it, but NEVER FOR A LONG TIME with the same girls. I hated it. They were both emotionally attached and it became one huge mind fuck. Never again.

So I eventually dumped the friend and continued seeing the one who I eventually married. We had two or three 3ways with women over the years (my wife loves women), but other than that it was oneitis with her.

I have always been comfortable talking to beautiful women, but I have to admit I am now a little rusty. I’ve only been with 3 girls since we split up. You guys have inspired me greatly.

I have no idea what the point of this post is. I am a little drunk and so I’m rambling. I am just wondering about all this PUA stuff right now. I am getting back in the game slowly. I have started to model scout again for my old agency in Los Angeles (I live in Canada). No better way to meet ladies. In fact that is how I met my wife and her friend.

Anyway, enough. Just wanted to know if any of you guys ever wonder about this or not.

Flame away… 

Kinda cool stuff huh? Lol

I agree with OP I think; takes a certain kind of guy and emotional makeup to be able to not only commit to this sort of a lifestyle, but to truly even desire it or begin at the journey of it in the first place.

-Rage

 

[Chase]

Haha, only had to read about halfway down before I knew who the poster was.

Just talked to Alek the other day about maybe pinging him for a podcast, if Varoon's down for this as well. Would love to have him on there.

Chase

 

[Rage]

That sounds awesome man; looking forward to it if it can happen down the road.

Really enjoyed the last podcast with black dragon as well.

cheers,

-Rage

 

[Eternity]

Was gonna make a thread about whether game is an obsession for some. It may be a fancy passing for the majority, but for others it's something they obsess about and want to reach the highest level they can. I think it is for me. I've tried to quit but the temptation and circumstances pulled me back. Seeing the angles and signals many men miss every day and having the knowledge of the why and how to succeed is too glaring to ignore.