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Grand Pooba

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Aside from the approaching (also not cold approach), I think I’ve run some of the tightest GC game I’ve ever done with this LR-. This girl is a lot older than me…I’d estimate about ten years so mid to late 30’s, but keeps herself in good shape, had really nice legs, and really big boobs.

Xmas Eve Dinner, Tuesday:


I went to a family Xmas eve dinner of 14 people, and one of those was this girl. Being in this setting gave me the chance to get to know a few things about her in a more social setting. What I was concerned with was where she’s from (Los Angeles) and how long she’s here for (about one week), and how to isolate her within that setting in order to get her number and set up a date.

I got my chance to pull her number right when I was leaving. I didn’t have a chance to isolate her during the dinner (where her family was as well…gotta be discreet), but I forgot my car keys in the house, and when I went back to get them, lo and behold, she was there alone playing with her cell phone. “Hey, you’re funny and charming, and I’d like to get to know you better. Why don’t we grab coffee sometime?” Number achieved, BOOM, and I left the place.

I texted on Xmas night, Wednesday:
ME 1822: :) Hope your’e having a nice Xmas holiday. Thinking we should grab that coffee soon, what’s your schedule like through the end of this week?
HER 2048: Merry Christmas! Day times are flexible. When did you have in mind?
ME (next day Thursday, 1417): Hmm I see…maybe Friday evening or Saturday afternoon? What do you think?
HER 1423: Friday evening works.
ME 1433: Ok, let’s say 5-ish? Remind me what areas are convenient to you?
HER 1447: [Cities close to her]
ME 1453: Hmm ok, maybe an sbux in [City]?
HER 1455: Sure that works
ME 1457: Ok, let’s touch base tomorrow.
HER 1458: Cool.
ME (next day Friday, 1401): Hi [girl], hope you’re well. Thinking we can meet at Java Works at [address], at 5:30pm. What do you think?
HER 1413: That works.
ME 1445: Great, when you get there I’ll meet you by the front door
HER 1553: I think this place is closed…
ME 1555: I don’t know that area well, is there a good coffee place around your area besides sbux?
HER 1611: Not really…[city] has [café]. But Starbucks works just fine.
ME 1622: Why don’t we go to [café?] That place sounds intriguing.
HER 1622: Sure, it’s at [address]
ME 1630: Great, see you soon :)

Coffee Date, Friday:

We met at the café and I greeted her with “What sorts of trouble have you gotten yourself into today?” She laughed and started talking about everything she’d done Friday…shopping mainly. We order a coffee, pay separately, and then sit down. I noticed that she’s sitting to my left but facing me with her knees pointing right at me, leaning back into the chair. This is a positive body language sign in my opinion. We talked about a lot of different things in the deep dive—what she’s doing in LA, how much she likes to travel and where she’d go to, comparing how people live in different cities across the country. At one point I asked her if she’s the kind of girl that gets into trouble wherever she goes, and she busted out laughing, basically saying “yeah…I get into trouble sometimes.” Good response. She works in online dating, so used this to have her share frames about it, as well as stories she’s heard. I did this to get a better sense of what she likes…and tried to use this to share my frames about being discreet, and differences between lovers and friends and boyfriends. It was a fruitful conversation but I honestly don’t remember much of it now.

An hour later we both go to the bathroom and then she lets me know that she has to go meet friends in DC. I then drop this:

ME: Well, that’s cool…you know, you’re a very interesting girl <she starts laughing…”Why?”>…I mean you’re funny and charming, and pretty cute, but I think there’s a side of you that you’re afraid to show. But you shouldn’t be”
HER: Well…I don’t know what you mean…I mean, why did you want to get my number anyway?
ME: Oh…well, I thought you had really alluring features about you, and you’re fun to talk to, and I thought we could get to know each other better while we’re both here.

She was a little taken aback by this, but in a good way.

We’re outside now about to part ways: she has to go meet friends in DC. But we’re hanging out for a minute and I ask her what she thinks of me. The conversation went something like this:

ME: Did you have a good time tonight?
HER: I did…but I mean, I don’t know what this is? You’re cool and I don’t really know what you want. You know my best friend’s sister and her husband, and I don’t know what you want.
ME: Yeah I know we live in different cities, but I thought we could spend time and have some fun while we’re both here. Don’t you think?
HER: Yeah, so what does that mean?
ME: That means we can spend time together and enjoy ourselves, and then who knows…

<WE PAUSE AND STARE INTO THE DISTANCE...I realized I had to do something now to convey to her that I’m a sexual man, that I’m not looking for something too long term and that I don’t want to be just friends, because I got the idea that she didn't know what I was all about…so…>

ME: <Quickly grab her by the small of her back, lean in and go for a kiss>
HER: <She responds immediately, no resistance, embraces a kiss> “…Wow…that was really unexpected.”
ME: “Some of the best things in life are like that…” <Continue kissing>
ME: So what’s your schedule like the next few days? Why don’t we do brunch on the weekend?
HER: I’m pretty busy tomorrow but Sunday works
ME: Ok, I’ll get in touch with you and we’ll figure something out.
ME: <Sensual kiss again> be good tonight ;-)

----

Brunch on Sunday afternoon:


We met at 1:45 at a sushi restaurant 3min from where I'm staying, half an hour away from her house. I greeted her with a kiss cheek and then a full-out mouth kiss. We move to sitting across from each other and talk pretty boring shit about what we did over the weekend. Over time I had her showing me some pictures of this dinner she went to, so I moved to sit next to her as we shared food and continued to chat. This also allowed me to touch her legs and kiss again, more passionately, eventually.

Here’s where it got a little tricky: she outright stated that she’s not sure about me, for a few reasons. We met in a social circle and everyone knows everyone in it. I told her this isn’t an issue because I never talk about anything, I like being discreet, so if anyone knows about us, it’s going to be entirely on her. I shared a story about how it’s better that way—when other people don’t get involved in what two people do together. She brought up the age gap, and I asked her if that’s an issue. This led to a more general conversation about what we have between us, and I told her basically that I like hanging out with her, but we should never put labels on anything, because that’s how people move two quickly and things get messed up. We shared a story we both knew about two people in this circle who did that and things got messy very quickly. And finally, this brought up a more general point about who she dates and what she looks for…turns out that, even though we’re from the same ethnic background, she’s never dated or been with anyone in that ethnic background. Well, I guess I have to change that right? I told her that I understand why, because I’m kind of the same…I rarely date anyone in my background because sometimes they tend to judge me before they get to know me, and that word spreads really, really fast in that circle. She agreed with me, and I tried to seed the idea in her head that I’m different, and I get where she’s coming from and it won’t be an issue if she doesn’t tell anyone.

Somehow this came up:

ME: “What features do you like in a man?”
HER: “Oh…well, I have a tendency to fall hard for guys with green eyes…kind of like yours, actually.”
ME: “So green huh…like the Grinch of Christmas?”
HER: “Hahaha…no, not like that…just intense, green eyes.”
ME: “I hope you’re not just saying that to get in my pants…”

By this time we’d finished food, and I suggested that she come home with me and we can watch a tv show for a while. She accepted…I’d already planned this in advance because we went to a sushi place just 3 min from my house. She said she wanted to go to the mall later, and I said she could go after we watch a show, it was nearby to my place anyway.

I called my dad and told him I’m bringing home a friend to hang out for a little while. He said he’s going to go out and take care of something for exactly 45 minutes. This is my time slot…I have very little time, my sister’s sleeping in one of the bedrooms, so I have to bring this girl home and make things happen fast. 3:30 was the deadline, and it was 2:45 when we left the sushi place.

She followed me in her car. I had her come into my place, got her some water as she took off her shoes, and we sat down and I was about to pull up a tv show I just grabbed the back of her head and went for the kiss. No resistance. She got turned on very fast and soon enough I threw the laptop down and had both my hands grabbing her. I then went to nibble her ear as I simultaneously stroked her pussy through her jeans. This got her really turned on and soon enough I’m laying on top of her on the couch. My sister’s still sleeping in the room next door, so before we get more frisky I grab her and lead her into my dad’s bedroom. I’m closing the blinds and get a token bit of resistance…
HER: “I don’t know…if we should do this.”

Oh, resistance? After reading DrexelScott’s LRs I think I understand better now how to deal with this. I grabbed her and threw her on the bed and got on top of her and went for biting her neck and massaging over her boobs…she was really into it and got turned on very fast. She wound up on top of me soon. It was game over for her when she got a minute to breathe and again said “this is so crazy, we shouldn’t…” so I pushed her over to my side and I smoothly slid my hands into her pants and started fingering her. Now she was REALLY turned on and I spent the next twenty minutes or so (quickly getting all her clothes off) fingering her, biting her neck and grabbing her hair passionately, getting into a missionary and simultaneously stroked her pussy as I played with her neck, hair, and sucking/licking/pinching her tits. I went with my mouth and teased around her pussy a bit, never actually going into bit but licking, nibbling, and teasing around it. Girls are really sensitive in their inner thighs, it seems.

I again had my own issues with not being turned on mentally, but I tried to give this girl the best experience I could. I again wasn’t able to get hard for penetrative sex…I’m thinking it’s a flatline and I just don’t have libido right now, but at least I made her feel good with my hands. It’s all I could do and there wasn't too much time.

We wrapped up at 3:25. I told her she needs to leave before dad gets back, and also mentioned I'd have kept her here longer if it wasn't for that. She quickly got clothes, we kissed and nibbled around a little more; I suggested we should get together again to watch a show and she said she’s super busy the next few days and might not have time. I told her I would contact her and we can spend a little time if she has it ;-).

Before leaving she said: “Wow…that was so crazy. I mean…your sister was sleeping in the other room! That was crazy…” Oh, I know…hahaha.

She left just as my dad’s car pulled into the driveway.

:)

Personal Comments:

I need to get to penetrative sex. Whatever is holding me back mentally, I need to deal with this. I need to blow their minds in bed. I'm not yet doing that.
 

Mr.Rob

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Nice Job Ozzo.

I feel ya on performance anxiety or not being able to get your boner on when it's time.
I had this problem with the girl from my LR "STRIP". Though I didn't mention it in the LR it took me an hour to get it up and when I did it went away after like 10 min. It is a bummer I don't have much to tell you other than read Chases article on trouncing performance anxiety or whatever the problem is.

Props on pulling the trigger here
ME: Did you have a good time tonight?
HER: I did…but I mean, I don’t know what this is? You’re cool and I don’t really know what you want. You know my best friend’s sister and her husband, and I don’t know what you want.
ME: Yeah I know we live in different cities, but I thought we could spend time and have some fun while we’re both here. Don’t you think?
HER: Yeah, so what does that mean?
ME: That means we can spend time together and enjoy ourselves, and then who knows…

<WE PAUSE AND STARE INTO THE DISTANCE...I realized I had to do something now to convey to her that I’m a sexual man, that I’m not looking for something too long term and that I don’t want to be just friends, because I got the idea that she didn't know what I was all about…so…>

ME: <Quickly grab her by the small of her back, lean in and go for a kiss>
HER: <She responds immediately, no resistance, embraces a kiss> “…Wow…that was really unexpected.”
ME: “Some of the best things in life are like that…” <Continue kissing>
ME: So what’s your schedule like the next few days? Why don’t we do brunch on the weekend?
HER: I’m pretty busy tomorrow but Sunday works
ME: Ok, I’ll get in touch with you and we’ll figure something out.
ME: <Sensual kiss again> be good tonight ;-)
That sounded like quite a up in the air escalation window. You definitely took a risk here and had it pay off for you. I love reading shit like this. That actually inspired me a little.

Cool report.

-Rob
 

Marty

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Hey Ozzo, you're coming on in leaps and bounds! This was beautifully executed... almost flawless!

I don't really know what else to say... I think my favorite bit is where she says "I don't know what this is, I don't know what you really want" and you handle it smoothly and unfazed. Magnificent!
 
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Chase

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Solid work handling some ambiguous situations, Ozzo. Especially enjoyed this:

ozzo said:
ME: Did you have a good time tonight?
HER: I did…but I mean, I don’t know what this is? You’re cool and I don’t really know what you want. You know my best friend’s sister and her husband, and I don’t know what you want.
ME: Yeah I know we live in different cities, but I thought we could spend time and have some fun while we’re both here. Don’t you think?
HER: Yeah, so what does that mean?
ME: That means we can spend time together and enjoy ourselves, and then who knows…

<WE PAUSE AND STARE INTO THE DISTANCE...I realized I had to do something now to convey to her that I’m a sexual man, that I’m not looking for something too long term and that I don’t want to be just friends, because I got the idea that she didn't know what I was all about…so…>

ME: <Quickly grab her by the small of her back, lean in and go for a kiss>
HER: <She responds immediately, no resistance, embraces a kiss> “…Wow…that was really unexpected.”
ME: “Some of the best things in life are like that…” <Continue kissing>
ME: So what’s your schedule like the next few days? Why don’t we do brunch on the weekend?
HER: I’m pretty busy tomorrow but Sunday works
ME: Ok, I’ll get in touch with you and we’ll figure something out.
ME: <Sensual kiss again> be good tonight ;-)

This'll happen when she's attracted, but afraid of rejection because of the age gap (or any other reason, but age is the most common - she's older, you're younger). Women will freak out if they think they're in danger of starting to fantasize about you only to end up being rejected or told they're too old - it's basically a phobia of any woman over the age of 26 or 27 or so (hearing she's "too old for you").

ozzo said:
ME: “What features do you like in a man?”
HER: “Oh…well, I have a tendency to fall hard for guys with green eyes…kind of like yours, actually.”
ME: “So green huh…like the Grinch of Christmas?”
HER: “Hahaha…no, not like that…just intense, green eyes.”
ME: “I hope you’re not just saying that to get in my pants…”

Love it.

ozzo said:
I again had my own issues with not being turned on mentally, but I tried to give this girl the best experience I could. I again wasn’t able to get hard for penetrative sex…I’m thinking it’s a flatline and I just don’t have libido right now, but at least I made her feel good with my hands. It’s all I could do and there wasn't too much time.

Have you seen this article?:

How to Get Turned On and Beat Performance Anxiety with New Girls

My guess is you're pulling girls you're not as connected to as you have been past lays, or you're pulling girls in weird situations you aren't used to or you're moving a lot faster than you're accustomed to and there are tons of moving pieces you're still working through logically, and you're just not in an emotional state where you just respond to a receptive female with sexual gusto. You just need to get a little more comfortable with the processes you're running and the situations you're ending up in, and give yourself a few tricks for getting hard when you're not getting hard out of the gates naturally.

ozzo said:
We wrapped up at 3:25. I told her she needs to leave before dad gets back, and also mentioned I'd have kept her here longer if it wasn't for that. She quickly got clothes, we kissed and nibbled around a little more; I suggested we should get together again to watch a show and she said she’s super busy the next few days and might not have time. I told her I would contact her and we can spend a little time if she has it ;-).

Before leaving she said: “Wow…that was so crazy. I mean…your sister was sleeping in the other room! That was crazy…” Oh, I know…hahaha.

She left just as my dad’s car pulled into the driveway.

:)

Personal Comments:

I need to get to penetrative sex. Whatever is holding me back mentally, I need to deal with this. I need to blow their minds in bed. I'm not yet doing that.

Agreed. That's the difference between "I'm super busy the next few days and might not have time" and "Yes, any time - you have my number!"

Get that handled and you'll be on fire, man.

Chase
 

Grand Pooba

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Chase, thanks for all your comments and support. Couldn't have been here without all your material and guidance, and support from the forum.

Chase said:
Have you seen this article?:

How to Get Turned On and Beat Performance Anxiety with New Girls

My guess is you're pulling girls you're not as connected to as you have been past lays, or you're pulling girls in weird situations you aren't used to or you're moving a lot faster than you're accustomed to and there are tons of moving pieces you're still working through logically, and you're just not in an emotional state where you just respond to a receptive female with sexual gusto. You just need to get a little more comfortable with the processes you're running and the situations you're ending up in, and give yourself a few tricks for getting hard when you're not getting hard out of the gates naturally.

I have seen that article, and I'm not sure how to apply everything.

I definitely am pulling girls I don't feel connected to as I have in the past. If I feel a connection with a girl mentally (of course this is usually after a series of dates) I can get and stay hard for as long as I want, and they've generally all described having an amazing time with me in the bedroom. But I think you're right...I'm moving a lot faster than I'm use to and I'm still working through the process and logic, and close myself to the accompanying emotional state.

Have to take a breather from GC practice for a while as I work to get my professional life on a different course, so this might have to wait until other issues get resolved.

Chase said:
Agreed. That's the difference between "I'm super busy the next few days and might not have time" and "Yes, any time - you have my number!"

Yep. I don't wish to disappoint any more girls.
 
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