FU You don't have the same values

[Shadow]

Hey All,

This is going to be a short one, but it made me quite curious so I'd love to hear your opinions on it

Went out for dinner with my brother yesterday as he was in town for the day. When I got there it was him and a friend of his from work (girl A). Had dinner, spoke a bit , nothing spectacular. My brother had to run to catch his train so he left me with alone with Girl A. I had no real interest in girl A, but I decided to give it a go and see where the night takes me so I proposed we go for drinks. She was game and even called one of her girlfriends over as well (girl B - who also knows my brother).

We sat at a bar, got a few rounds of drinks and I bantered with girl B, challenged and teased her a bit etc etc as much as I could in front of her friend. Took every opportunity we were alone to push a bit. The result was some light flirting. I then convinced them to keep going elsewhere (they changed opinion from "no way" to "lets pull an all nighter").

At the next bar things got a bit more interesting - more banter, a bit more sexual vibe. Resulted in girl B playing with her hair, randomly taking and holding my hand, smiling at me etc .. The one conversation worthwhile mentioning was:

Girl B: Where do YOU want to go? what is your favourite place?
Me: Hmm that would be my house
Girl B: Haha - hey I'm an orthodox christian I don't do these things
Me: I just meant having a drink at mine - not sure what you were thinking

Eventually I pulled them both in a taxi and took them to my house when the bars started closing (there was no option to just take girl B with me for a number of logistical reasons). There we had another round of drinks, ordered food, put some music on. Girl A fell asleep - so I took the opportunity to deep dive girl B. This is where it gets interesting - she started lying in my lap on the couch. First time around I didn't do anything, but the second time she did it I couldn't let that slip really. Tried to go for the kiss, but it was impossible in that position so I pulled her up while saying " well this isn't going to work this way" and went for it.

She pulled back with a very surprised facial expression and said something the lines of (in a very strong, slightly pissed off way):

Girl B: Ehmm what? This is weird I'm friends with your brother!
Me: Weird? Interesting... (while pulling back completely and just chilling on the couch as if nothing has happened)
Girl B: What's interesting?!
Me: What did you expect to happen while lying in my lap in my house?
Girl: .... You don't have the same values as your brother! You obviously didn't pay attention to your parents when you were little!

Then she mentioned they'll leave soon, we talked a bit about she is weird and how she doesn't know me or my parents really... Eventually she chilled out and we flipped back to normal chit chat and some more serious conversations... and then she fell asleep on the couch

Even if I take into consideration the fact that I possibly didn't build enough sexual vibe/tension and if I think of these IOI (smiles, flirting, handholding, lying in my lap and etc) as some kind of freaky extreme friendliness - I still fail to understand this extreme reaction to my advance. The only non-crazy ideas I have are 1) She's friendzoned my brother and thought she'd behave the same way with me (need to validate this with him) 2) she's a nutter. She doesn't do drugs, is not some party animal and is from a wealthy family.

Looking forward to your views on this.

Shadow

 

[nolimits]

Shadow!

Hard to say.

Would have to see her reaction to when u went for the kiss.

If she was REALLY pissed off (not just shit testing you or playing the bitch) , unless she's extremely dumb , your brother has got nothing to do with that, believe me.

If she was TRULY offended you did not build enough compliance, and sexual tension was likely not there enough. And your fundamentals in the instance were maybe a bit out of place (not sure but likely)

From the small pieces of conversation I see though, you seemed flirty, to say the least, from the very beginning.

Unless you behaved like a nice guy the rest of the time ( which is safe to assume you haven't) though, this is what really happened here.

When you and a girl have common friends ( in this case, her friend -who was also there- and your brother) her unti slut defenses DOUBLE, to say the least.
This is even more true when her friend is there, so that when she leaves, she is forced to tell her the whole story.

Don't get me wrong, you can still lay women in this knd of scenarios, but to do so it's VITAL that you do a terrific job at handling anti slut defenses, and that she sees you ( and your brother, even more importantly) as non judgmental and extremely discreet people.

Think about it: ever been in a group situation where you u had a good vibe with a specifc woman but all of your friends, or at least som of them, where judgmental? ( even the slightest?)

Do you remeber how cool was to extract the chick from the group, bring her home and bang the hell out of her?

Neither do I.

It just doesn't happen.

So if you don't do a terrific job at making them feel SAFE and NON JUDGED, you're almost surely not gonna lay them.

But, great job on the

'' I just meant for a drink, what are you thinking? ''

Keep it up